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Core	
  System	
  Replacements	
  
Wednesday,	
  August	
  13,	
  2014	
  
Disclaimer:	
  Nothing	
  that	
  we	
  are	
  sharing	
  is	
  intended	
  as	
  legally	
  binding	
  or	
  prescrip7ve	
  advice.	
  This	
  
presenta7on	
  is	
  a	
  synthesis	
  of	
  publically	
  available	
  informa7on	
  and	
  best	
  prac7ces.	
  
Jonathan	
  Evere,	
  
I	
  have	
  been	
  around	
  the	
  Healthcare	
  
IT	
  arena	
  for	
  over	
  12	
  years	
  
Vice	
  President	
  of	
  Business	
  
Development	
  for	
  Quirk	
  Healthcare	
  
Reside	
  in	
  Portland,	
  OR	
  
Quick	
  IntroducFon	
  
Industry	
  DefiniFon	
  –	
  The	
  act	
  of	
  systemaFcally	
  
meeFng	
  business	
  goals	
  through	
  ensuring	
  you	
  
have	
  the	
  right	
  technology	
  in	
  place,	
  even	
  when	
  
meaning	
  to	
  replace	
  exisFng	
  technology.	
  
My	
  DefiniFon	
  –	
  The	
  act	
  of	
  violently	
  ripping	
  out	
  
your	
  enFre	
  way	
  of	
  life	
  with	
  your	
  pracFce	
  to	
  
hopefully	
  make	
  it	
  be,er.	
  FINGERS	
  CROSSED	
  ☺	
  
Core	
  System	
  Replacements	
  
This	
  IS	
  the	
  quesFon	
  (for	
  the	
  C-­‐Suite)	
  
To	
  Change	
  or	
  Not	
  to	
  Change	
  
•  AcquisiFons	
  and	
  Mergers	
  
•  Physician	
  SaFsfacFon	
  
•  Meaningful	
  Use	
  Compliance	
  
•  Cost	
  
Why	
  Should	
  We	
  Even	
  Discuss	
  This?	
  
•  They	
  make	
  business	
  sense!	
  
–  Control	
  all	
  facets	
  of	
  care	
  delivery	
  
•  Care	
  delivery	
  and	
  business	
  objecFves	
  are	
  
changing	
  
–  Hospitals	
  buy	
  physician	
  groups	
  
–  Hospitals	
  join	
  hospital	
  systems	
  
–  Hospital	
  systems	
  buy	
  more	
  ambulatory	
  pracFces	
  
–  Payers	
  buy	
  hospital	
  systems	
  
–  Everyone	
  is	
  trying	
  to	
  create	
  a	
  new	
  Kaiser	
  
–  Look	
  at	
  UnitedHealth’s	
  profits	
  over	
  the	
  past	
  5	
  years	
  
AcquisiFons	
  and	
  Mergers	
  
•  But	
  who	
  acquired	
  who?	
  
– Su,er	
  Health	
  bought	
  Mills	
  Peninsula	
  
– Optum	
  (United	
  Health)	
  bought	
  Monarch	
  
– Tenet	
  has	
  just	
  acquired	
  its	
  80th	
  hospital	
  
– Cleveland	
  Clinic	
  acquired	
  Ohio	
  Cancer	
  Specialists	
  
– Mayo	
  Clinic	
  acquired	
  Queen	
  of	
  Peace	
  Hospital	
  
AcquisiFons	
  and	
  Mergers	
  
The	
  List	
  is	
  ENDLESS	
  
•  Who	
  acquired	
  who?	
  
– Cerner	
  bought	
  Siemens	
  	
  
– NextGen	
  bought	
  Mirth	
  and	
  Opus	
  
– Allscripts	
  bought	
  Eclipsys	
  and	
  MISYS	
  
– PracFce	
  Fusion	
  buys	
  Ringadoc	
  
– AthenaHealth	
  buys	
  Epocrates	
  
AcquisiFons	
  and	
  Mergers,	
  
Technology	
  Companies	
  Too!	
  
The	
  List	
  is	
  ENDLESS	
  
•  Ask	
  yourselves	
  these	
  quesFons	
  
– First,	
  what	
  are	
  the	
  goals	
  of	
  the	
  business?	
  
– What	
  is	
  the	
  biggest	
  benefit	
  of	
  switching?	
  
– What	
  is	
  the	
  biggest	
  loss	
  of	
  switching?	
  
– Do	
  mulFple	
  systems	
  make	
  sense?	
  
– How	
  much	
  will	
  it	
  cost	
  to	
  stay?	
  
– How	
  much	
  will	
  it	
  cost	
  to	
  switch?	
  
– Do	
  our	
  physicians	
  like	
  the	
  system	
  they	
  use?	
  
What	
  Do	
  AcquisiFons	
  and	
  Mergers	
  
Mean	
  for	
  My	
  PracFce?	
  
Go	
  ahead,	
  try	
  to	
  make	
  me	
  click	
  another	
  bu,on	
  
Physician	
  SaFsfacFon	
  	
  
Physician	
  Complaints	
  Are	
  Valid	
  
•  But	
  as	
  I	
  said	
  in	
  an	
  InformaFon	
  Week	
  arFcle,	
  
they	
  can	
  be	
  controlled	
  at	
  home.	
  
•  This	
  is	
  a	
  BAD	
  reason	
  to	
  replace	
  an	
  EHR.	
  
•  You	
  need	
  to	
  evaluate	
  your	
  implementaFon	
  
and	
  encourage	
  physician	
  use	
  of	
  the	
  system.	
  
•  Do	
  not	
  reward	
  basic	
  uFlizaFon,	
  make	
  it	
  a	
  part	
  
of	
  employment.	
  
Ask	
  yourselves	
  these	
  quesFons:	
  
– What	
  is	
  the	
  goal	
  of	
  the	
  business?	
  
– Are	
  clinicians	
  just	
  complaining	
  loudly?	
  
– What	
  is	
  the	
  biggest	
  benefit	
  of	
  switching?	
  
– What	
  is	
  the	
  biggest	
  drawback	
  of	
  switching?	
  
– How	
  much	
  will	
  it	
  cost	
  to	
  stay?	
  
– How	
  much	
  will	
  it	
  cost	
  to	
  switch?	
  
Should	
  Physician	
  Complaints	
  Make	
  Us	
  
Consider	
  a	
  New	
  EHR?	
  
You	
  said	
  this	
  EHR	
  would	
  qualify!	
  
Meaningful	
  What?	
  
•  Meaningful	
  Use	
  Stage	
  1	
  ONC	
  CerFfied?	
  
– 472	
  Ambulatory	
  Systems	
  
•  Meaningful	
  Use	
  Stage	
  2	
  ONC	
  CerFfied?	
  
– Less	
  than	
  half	
  of	
  the	
  original	
  472	
  
•  Meaningful	
  Use	
  Stage	
  3	
  ONC	
  CerFfied?	
  
– I	
  believe	
  this	
  will	
  be	
  less	
  than	
  50	
  complete	
  
cerFfied	
  systems	
  
How	
  Many	
  CerFfied	
  EHR	
  Systems	
  Exist?	
  
•  YES!	
  Then	
  ask	
  yourselves	
  these	
  quesFons.	
  
– What	
  systems	
  are	
  out	
  there?	
  	
  
– Can	
  they	
  convert	
  our	
  legacy	
  data	
  with	
  minimal	
  
cost?	
  
– How	
  much	
  will	
  it	
  cost	
  to	
  switch?	
  
– Are	
  we	
  ensuring	
  physician	
  saFsfacFon?	
  
– What	
  if	
  we	
  don’t	
  care	
  about	
  Meaningful	
  Use?	
  
Should	
  a	
  Lack	
  of	
  MU	
  CerFficaFon	
  
Make	
  us	
  Switch?	
  
The	
  PracFce	
  Budget	
  Runs	
  Out!	
  
It	
  IS	
  a	
  business!	
  
Cost	
  
Each	
  System	
  Has	
  a	
  Cost,	
  Even	
  the	
  Free	
  
Ones!	
  
•  Millions	
  up	
  front	
  or	
  a	
  percentage	
  of	
  claims	
  for	
  
years	
  to	
  come?	
  
•  Want	
  to	
  host	
  it	
  yourself	
  or	
  have	
  someone	
  else	
  
host	
  it	
  in	
  the	
  cloud	
  for	
  you?	
  
•  Do	
  you	
  even	
  want	
  to	
  worry	
  about	
  hosFng	
  
anything	
  at	
  all,	
  onsite	
  or	
  remote?	
  
•  All	
  of	
  these	
  topics	
  have	
  cost	
  associated	
  with	
  
them	
  and	
  there	
  are	
  too	
  many	
  to	
  list.	
  
Ask	
  yourselves	
  these	
  quesFons	
  
– First,	
  what	
  are	
  the	
  goals	
  of	
  the	
  business?	
  
– What	
  is	
  the	
  biggest	
  benefit	
  of	
  switching?	
  
– What	
  is	
  the	
  biggest	
  drawback	
  of	
  switching?	
  
– How	
  much	
  will	
  it	
  cost	
  to	
  stay?	
  
– How	
  much	
  will	
  it	
  cost	
  to	
  switch?	
  
– Do	
  our	
  physicians	
  like	
  the	
  system	
  they	
  use?	
  
Should	
  the	
  Cost	
  of	
  an	
  EHR	
  Make	
  Us	
  
Consider	
  a	
  Switch?	
  
There	
  Isn’t	
  a	
  Cookie	
  Cu,er	
  Answer	
  
•  Google	
  any	
  EHR	
  vendor	
  name	
  and	
  the	
  word	
  
“lawsuit”	
  and	
  you	
  might	
  have	
  a	
  heart	
  a,ack	
  
•  Each	
  system	
  you	
  are	
  considering	
  is	
  developing	
  
to	
  the	
  beat	
  of	
  the	
  government,	
  not	
  necessarily	
  
to	
  innovaFon	
  (though	
  some	
  are	
  trying)	
  
•  Each	
  situaFon	
  is	
  unique,	
  so	
  make	
  sure	
  you	
  are	
  
considering	
  the	
  switch	
  for	
  the	
  right	
  business	
  
reasons.	
  
Q&A	
  
Jonathan	
  Evere,	
  
Vice	
  President,	
  Business	
  Development	
  
Quirk	
  Healthcare	
  
h,p://www.quirkhealthcare.com	
  
Jonathan.evere,@quirkhealthcare.com	
  
@jtevere,_hit	
  
h,ps://www.linkedin.com/in/jtevere,	
  

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System Replacements

  • 1. Core  System  Replacements   Wednesday,  August  13,  2014   Disclaimer:  Nothing  that  we  are  sharing  is  intended  as  legally  binding  or  prescrip7ve  advice.  This   presenta7on  is  a  synthesis  of  publically  available  informa7on  and  best  prac7ces.  
  • 2. Jonathan  Evere,   I  have  been  around  the  Healthcare   IT  arena  for  over  12  years   Vice  President  of  Business   Development  for  Quirk  Healthcare   Reside  in  Portland,  OR   Quick  IntroducFon  
  • 3. Industry  DefiniFon  –  The  act  of  systemaFcally   meeFng  business  goals  through  ensuring  you   have  the  right  technology  in  place,  even  when   meaning  to  replace  exisFng  technology.   My  DefiniFon  –  The  act  of  violently  ripping  out   your  enFre  way  of  life  with  your  pracFce  to   hopefully  make  it  be,er.  FINGERS  CROSSED  ☺   Core  System  Replacements  
  • 4. This  IS  the  quesFon  (for  the  C-­‐Suite)   To  Change  or  Not  to  Change  
  • 5. •  AcquisiFons  and  Mergers   •  Physician  SaFsfacFon   •  Meaningful  Use  Compliance   •  Cost   Why  Should  We  Even  Discuss  This?  
  • 6. •  They  make  business  sense!   –  Control  all  facets  of  care  delivery   •  Care  delivery  and  business  objecFves  are   changing   –  Hospitals  buy  physician  groups   –  Hospitals  join  hospital  systems   –  Hospital  systems  buy  more  ambulatory  pracFces   –  Payers  buy  hospital  systems   –  Everyone  is  trying  to  create  a  new  Kaiser   –  Look  at  UnitedHealth’s  profits  over  the  past  5  years   AcquisiFons  and  Mergers  
  • 7. •  But  who  acquired  who?   – Su,er  Health  bought  Mills  Peninsula   – Optum  (United  Health)  bought  Monarch   – Tenet  has  just  acquired  its  80th  hospital   – Cleveland  Clinic  acquired  Ohio  Cancer  Specialists   – Mayo  Clinic  acquired  Queen  of  Peace  Hospital   AcquisiFons  and  Mergers   The  List  is  ENDLESS  
  • 8. •  Who  acquired  who?   – Cerner  bought  Siemens     – NextGen  bought  Mirth  and  Opus   – Allscripts  bought  Eclipsys  and  MISYS   – PracFce  Fusion  buys  Ringadoc   – AthenaHealth  buys  Epocrates   AcquisiFons  and  Mergers,   Technology  Companies  Too!   The  List  is  ENDLESS  
  • 9. •  Ask  yourselves  these  quesFons   – First,  what  are  the  goals  of  the  business?   – What  is  the  biggest  benefit  of  switching?   – What  is  the  biggest  loss  of  switching?   – Do  mulFple  systems  make  sense?   – How  much  will  it  cost  to  stay?   – How  much  will  it  cost  to  switch?   – Do  our  physicians  like  the  system  they  use?   What  Do  AcquisiFons  and  Mergers   Mean  for  My  PracFce?  
  • 10. Go  ahead,  try  to  make  me  click  another  bu,on   Physician  SaFsfacFon    
  • 11. Physician  Complaints  Are  Valid   •  But  as  I  said  in  an  InformaFon  Week  arFcle,   they  can  be  controlled  at  home.   •  This  is  a  BAD  reason  to  replace  an  EHR.   •  You  need  to  evaluate  your  implementaFon   and  encourage  physician  use  of  the  system.   •  Do  not  reward  basic  uFlizaFon,  make  it  a  part   of  employment.  
  • 12. Ask  yourselves  these  quesFons:   – What  is  the  goal  of  the  business?   – Are  clinicians  just  complaining  loudly?   – What  is  the  biggest  benefit  of  switching?   – What  is  the  biggest  drawback  of  switching?   – How  much  will  it  cost  to  stay?   – How  much  will  it  cost  to  switch?   Should  Physician  Complaints  Make  Us   Consider  a  New  EHR?  
  • 13. You  said  this  EHR  would  qualify!   Meaningful  What?  
  • 14. •  Meaningful  Use  Stage  1  ONC  CerFfied?   – 472  Ambulatory  Systems   •  Meaningful  Use  Stage  2  ONC  CerFfied?   – Less  than  half  of  the  original  472   •  Meaningful  Use  Stage  3  ONC  CerFfied?   – I  believe  this  will  be  less  than  50  complete   cerFfied  systems   How  Many  CerFfied  EHR  Systems  Exist?  
  • 15. •  YES!  Then  ask  yourselves  these  quesFons.   – What  systems  are  out  there?     – Can  they  convert  our  legacy  data  with  minimal   cost?   – How  much  will  it  cost  to  switch?   – Are  we  ensuring  physician  saFsfacFon?   – What  if  we  don’t  care  about  Meaningful  Use?   Should  a  Lack  of  MU  CerFficaFon   Make  us  Switch?  
  • 16. The  PracFce  Budget  Runs  Out!   It  IS  a  business!   Cost  
  • 17. Each  System  Has  a  Cost,  Even  the  Free   Ones!   •  Millions  up  front  or  a  percentage  of  claims  for   years  to  come?   •  Want  to  host  it  yourself  or  have  someone  else   host  it  in  the  cloud  for  you?   •  Do  you  even  want  to  worry  about  hosFng   anything  at  all,  onsite  or  remote?   •  All  of  these  topics  have  cost  associated  with   them  and  there  are  too  many  to  list.  
  • 18. Ask  yourselves  these  quesFons   – First,  what  are  the  goals  of  the  business?   – What  is  the  biggest  benefit  of  switching?   – What  is  the  biggest  drawback  of  switching?   – How  much  will  it  cost  to  stay?   – How  much  will  it  cost  to  switch?   – Do  our  physicians  like  the  system  they  use?   Should  the  Cost  of  an  EHR  Make  Us   Consider  a  Switch?  
  • 19. There  Isn’t  a  Cookie  Cu,er  Answer   •  Google  any  EHR  vendor  name  and  the  word   “lawsuit”  and  you  might  have  a  heart  a,ack   •  Each  system  you  are  considering  is  developing   to  the  beat  of  the  government,  not  necessarily   to  innovaFon  (though  some  are  trying)   •  Each  situaFon  is  unique,  so  make  sure  you  are   considering  the  switch  for  the  right  business   reasons.  
  • 20. Q&A   Jonathan  Evere,   Vice  President,  Business  Development   Quirk  Healthcare   h,p://www.quirkhealthcare.com   Jonathan.evere,@quirkhealthcare.com   @jtevere,_hit   h,ps://www.linkedin.com/in/jtevere,