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Scrum Day
2022
Project Management and
the Agile World –
Can (and Should) We Build
More Bridges?
Scrum Day
2022 © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz
© 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz
Scrum Day
2022
Antje Lehmann-Benz
Born here 40 and
then some years
ago…
…, today:
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Cross-Functionality in Corporate Environments?
https://creately.com/diagram/example/g5701q2i3/matrix-structure
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Agenda
Some
Ideas
What do
People Want
and Need?
Other
Organizations
PM
Organizations
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2022
PMI: Project Management Institute
PM Organizations
Year of foundation: 1969
Founding members: 5
Members: ~600,000*
Membership type: Individuals, students
Countries with members: >200*
Chapters >300
* per 2020
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Evolution of the PMBOK / PMBOK® Guide
PM Organizations
182
216
388
459
586
756
300
37
39
44
42
47
49
0
10
20
30
40
50
0
200
400
600
800
1000
1996 2000 2004 2008 2012 2017 2021
Pages Processes
250-
300
>5 Million copies in
circulation
12 Languages
Graphic: Oliver F. Lehmann
https://standardsplus.pmi.org/
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PMP Exam Content Outline
Exam syllabus (guiding exam content document)
PM Organizations
Graphic: Oliver F. Lehmann
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DA Mindset
PM Organizations
Disciplined Agile is a tool kit of
strategies to help organizations be
more successful with agile
It brings an agnostic enterprise
approach to agile
Graphic: PMI
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DA Mindset
PM Organizations
Graphic: PMI
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Disciplined Agile Across the Enterprise
PM Organizations
Graphic: PMI
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Process Goal Diagrams
PM Organizations
https://www.pmi.org/disciplined-agile/da-browser
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IPMA:
International Project Management Association
PM Organizations
Year of foundation:
1964 (as „INTERNET“), 1996:
name change to IPMA
Founding members: 5
Members: GPM: >8,000
Membership type:
Individual, consultant, emeritus,
student
Countries with members: >80
Local country organizations 82
per 2022
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Evolution of Project
Management & Organizations
PM Organizations
https://tinyurl.com/2p8s4thz
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Evolution of Project
Management & Organizations
PM Organizations
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Scrum Day
2022
Evolution of Project
Management & Organizations
PM Organizations
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Scrum Day
2022
Agenda
Some
Ideas
What do
People Want
and Need?
Other
Organizations
PM
Organizations
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2022
Other Organizations & Approaches
Selection:
- SAFe
- Lean
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SAFe
Other Organizations & Approaches
www.scaledagileframework.com
SAFe Configurations For whom? Purpose?
Essential Team and Program Level Teams/companies that want to start soon
and quickly with the minimum elements of
SAFe
Large Solution Team and Program Level Companies with larger undertakings
Portfolio Team, Program, and
Portfolio Level
Companies with several larger undertakings in
the form of portfolios managed using SAFe
Full Entire Enterprise All previous levels integrated - large
undertakings with >100 people involved.
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SAFe
Other Organizations & Approaches
https://twitter.com/twhaas/status/1089830019667501058/photo/1
Often heard pros
+ Good starting point for organizations that have
little to no experience with agile
+ Offers tradeoffs to organizations with high
governance needs (ex. highly regulated
environments)
+ Can work with context-oriented expert guidance
+ PI (program increment) planning events one of
the highlights
Often heard cons
− Builds on introduction of many additional
roles and hierarchy levels
− Not agile enough for many (or not at all)
− Command & control habits may persist
− Can be an (unnecessarily?) rocky road to
agility
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State of Agile
Other Organizations & Approaches
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Other Organizations & Approaches
Quality
Delivery times Cost
Lean
~since the 1950s
inspired
Scrum Framework
~1995
Agile Manifesto
2001
has brought to
emergence
Kanban
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Lean
Other Organizations & Approaches
Often heard pros
+ Good for agile teams that want to deliver
continuously instead of iteratively
+ Not just for projects, but suitable for all types of
work (operations, team of teams,...)
+ Proven positive effects: E.g. more and better
transparency, visualization, collaboration, self-
organization and ownership, system optimization....
+ Practiced at least to some extent in a majority of
companies
Often heard cons
− Originates from production /
manufacturing - does not "fit" for
knowledge work
− Gentle change may be too slow for some
− Needs good guidance, many don’t know
about everything it has to offer – teams
often just use post-its on boards as a
simple tool and call it Kanban
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Agenda
Some
Ideas
What do
People Want
and Need?
Other
Organizations
PM
Organizations
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2022
Survey
On a Scale From 1-5, how
familiar were you with the
organizations and approaches
presented here?
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2022
Survey
What kind of support
should professional
organizations generally offer,
or offer more of?
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Agenda
Some
Ideas
What do
People Want
and Need?
Other
Organizations
PM
Organizations
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Situational Project Management
Some Ideas
Project, Program, and
Portfolio
management as a
method and
leadership task in a
specific environment
3 global standards
Reach
Content
Logo
Version
Date
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DA Tactical Scaling Factors
Some Ideas
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Hybrid Approaches
Some Ideas
https://www.theprojectgroup.com/de/download/projektmanagement-agil-hybrid#c323022
CUSTOMER PROJECTS
PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT
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Cross-Over Project Navigator
Some Ideas
https://pm-botschaft.com/cross-over-project-navigator/
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Discussion
“Moving the Scrum Downfield”
might work better without
“parallel” worlds (classical project
and agile environments)
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2022
Discussion
Do you think we need to
build more bridges between
the Project Management
world and the Agile world?
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2022
Q&A
Any questions?
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Wrap-Up
Your takeaways
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Wrap-Up
Feedback
https://forms.gle/PANaLZigfnXaYZmB8
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Thank you!
© 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz
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2022
PM Organizations
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Most Widespread Certification:
Project Management Professional (PMP)
PM Organizations
Exam Members $405 €340
Nonmembers $555 €465
Certification renewal
after 3-years cycle
Members $60 --
Nonmembers $150 --
Membership, annual fee Regular $129
Number of PMP-
certified persons (by
end of 2019):
~1,000,000;
of which in Germany:
~15,000
Before 1998: 5000;
then: decision in to
offer the credential
globally
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2022
PMI: Project Management Institute
PM Organizations
United States
54.0%
Canada
9.5%
India
4.2%
Japan
2.0%
Brazil
1.9%
China
1.7%
Australia
1.7%
Germany
1.5%
United Kingdom
1.3%
Spain
1.3%
Saudi
Arabia
1.2%
France
1.2%
Italy
1.1%
Singapore
1.1%
United
Arab
Emirates
1.0%
Others
15.2%
Top 15 countries with PMI® Members
per 03-2019
Graphic:
Oliver F.
Lehmann
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PMI Global Executive Council
PM Organizations
per 2020
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More on Disciplined Agile
• PMI.org/disciplined-agile
• PMI members can download the Choose Your WoW book from pmi.org
PM Organizations
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Certifications: IPMA Levels (Germany)
PM Organizations
Level Type of test Price in € w/o prior level
members / non-members
With prior
level
Basic Level CBT 1.5 hrs 225/203
Level D CBT 3 hrs (or 1.5 hrs + report) 630/567 Lower price:
450/405
Level C CBT 2 hrs + report + workshop + interview 1935/1742 no workshop
Level B CBT 1.5 hrs + report + workshop + interview 1935/1742 no workshop
Level A Report + interview 2475 / 2228
hybrid+ CBT 2 hrs 290 / 261
Membership, annual fee Individual, regular $156
Numbe
certified
end of
~1,000
of whic
~15,00
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Other Organizations & Approaches
© 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz
Scrum Day
2022
Topics
- PMI history (starting from the mid 1990s: looking in parallel also at how Scrum developed)
- Present situation: PMI and its journey to get closer to the agile world (and why they're doing that),
- Focus on Disciplined Agile
- Quick glance at some other organizations such as IPMA, SAFe, …
- What do the people associated with PMI (data, surveys, examples) want?
- What do the people associated with Scrum want? (instant audience survey)
- Which fields do practitioners feel are not tackled (enough) by either organization, or by their published standards?
- How can we get these perspectives closer together and consolidate; also, why would we even want to do that - what could be the
gain? Some suggestions and ideas
- Discussion

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Project Management and the Agile World – Can (and Should) We Build More Bridges?

  • 1. Scrum Day 2022 Project Management and the Agile World – Can (and Should) We Build More Bridges? Scrum Day 2022 © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz
  • 2. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Born here 40 and then some years ago… …, today:
  • 3. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Cross-Functionality in Corporate Environments? https://creately.com/diagram/example/g5701q2i3/matrix-structure
  • 4. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Agenda Some Ideas What do People Want and Need? Other Organizations PM Organizations
  • 5. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 PMI: Project Management Institute PM Organizations Year of foundation: 1969 Founding members: 5 Members: ~600,000* Membership type: Individuals, students Countries with members: >200* Chapters >300 * per 2020
  • 6. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Evolution of the PMBOK / PMBOK® Guide PM Organizations 182 216 388 459 586 756 300 37 39 44 42 47 49 0 10 20 30 40 50 0 200 400 600 800 1000 1996 2000 2004 2008 2012 2017 2021 Pages Processes 250- 300 >5 Million copies in circulation 12 Languages Graphic: Oliver F. Lehmann https://standardsplus.pmi.org/
  • 7. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 PMP Exam Content Outline Exam syllabus (guiding exam content document) PM Organizations Graphic: Oliver F. Lehmann
  • 8. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 DA Mindset PM Organizations Disciplined Agile is a tool kit of strategies to help organizations be more successful with agile It brings an agnostic enterprise approach to agile Graphic: PMI
  • 9. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 DA Mindset PM Organizations Graphic: PMI
  • 10. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Disciplined Agile Across the Enterprise PM Organizations Graphic: PMI
  • 11. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Process Goal Diagrams PM Organizations https://www.pmi.org/disciplined-agile/da-browser
  • 12. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 IPMA: International Project Management Association PM Organizations Year of foundation: 1964 (as „INTERNET“), 1996: name change to IPMA Founding members: 5 Members: GPM: >8,000 Membership type: Individual, consultant, emeritus, student Countries with members: >80 Local country organizations 82 per 2022
  • 13. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Evolution of Project Management & Organizations PM Organizations https://tinyurl.com/2p8s4thz
  • 14. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Evolution of Project Management & Organizations PM Organizations
  • 15. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Evolution of Project Management & Organizations PM Organizations
  • 16. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Agenda Some Ideas What do People Want and Need? Other Organizations PM Organizations
  • 17. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Other Organizations & Approaches Selection: - SAFe - Lean
  • 18. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 SAFe Other Organizations & Approaches www.scaledagileframework.com SAFe Configurations For whom? Purpose? Essential Team and Program Level Teams/companies that want to start soon and quickly with the minimum elements of SAFe Large Solution Team and Program Level Companies with larger undertakings Portfolio Team, Program, and Portfolio Level Companies with several larger undertakings in the form of portfolios managed using SAFe Full Entire Enterprise All previous levels integrated - large undertakings with >100 people involved.
  • 19. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 SAFe Other Organizations & Approaches https://twitter.com/twhaas/status/1089830019667501058/photo/1 Often heard pros + Good starting point for organizations that have little to no experience with agile + Offers tradeoffs to organizations with high governance needs (ex. highly regulated environments) + Can work with context-oriented expert guidance + PI (program increment) planning events one of the highlights Often heard cons − Builds on introduction of many additional roles and hierarchy levels − Not agile enough for many (or not at all) − Command & control habits may persist − Can be an (unnecessarily?) rocky road to agility
  • 20. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 State of Agile Other Organizations & Approaches
  • 21. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Other Organizations & Approaches Quality Delivery times Cost Lean ~since the 1950s inspired Scrum Framework ~1995 Agile Manifesto 2001 has brought to emergence Kanban
  • 22. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Lean Other Organizations & Approaches Often heard pros + Good for agile teams that want to deliver continuously instead of iteratively + Not just for projects, but suitable for all types of work (operations, team of teams,...) + Proven positive effects: E.g. more and better transparency, visualization, collaboration, self- organization and ownership, system optimization.... + Practiced at least to some extent in a majority of companies Often heard cons − Originates from production / manufacturing - does not "fit" for knowledge work − Gentle change may be too slow for some − Needs good guidance, many don’t know about everything it has to offer – teams often just use post-its on boards as a simple tool and call it Kanban
  • 23. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Agenda Some Ideas What do People Want and Need? Other Organizations PM Organizations
  • 24. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Survey On a Scale From 1-5, how familiar were you with the organizations and approaches presented here?
  • 25. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Survey What kind of support should professional organizations generally offer, or offer more of?
  • 26. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Agenda Some Ideas What do People Want and Need? Other Organizations PM Organizations
  • 27. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Situational Project Management Some Ideas Project, Program, and Portfolio management as a method and leadership task in a specific environment 3 global standards Reach Content Logo Version Date
  • 28. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 DA Tactical Scaling Factors Some Ideas
  • 29. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Hybrid Approaches Some Ideas https://www.theprojectgroup.com/de/download/projektmanagement-agil-hybrid#c323022 CUSTOMER PROJECTS PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT
  • 30. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Cross-Over Project Navigator Some Ideas https://pm-botschaft.com/cross-over-project-navigator/
  • 31. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Discussion “Moving the Scrum Downfield” might work better without “parallel” worlds (classical project and agile environments)
  • 32. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Discussion Do you think we need to build more bridges between the Project Management world and the Agile world?
  • 33. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Q&A Any questions?
  • 34. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Wrap-Up Your takeaways
  • 35. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Wrap-Up Feedback https://forms.gle/PANaLZigfnXaYZmB8
  • 37. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 PM Organizations
  • 38. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Most Widespread Certification: Project Management Professional (PMP) PM Organizations Exam Members $405 €340 Nonmembers $555 €465 Certification renewal after 3-years cycle Members $60 -- Nonmembers $150 -- Membership, annual fee Regular $129 Number of PMP- certified persons (by end of 2019): ~1,000,000; of which in Germany: ~15,000 Before 1998: 5000; then: decision in to offer the credential globally
  • 39. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 PMI: Project Management Institute PM Organizations United States 54.0% Canada 9.5% India 4.2% Japan 2.0% Brazil 1.9% China 1.7% Australia 1.7% Germany 1.5% United Kingdom 1.3% Spain 1.3% Saudi Arabia 1.2% France 1.2% Italy 1.1% Singapore 1.1% United Arab Emirates 1.0% Others 15.2% Top 15 countries with PMI® Members per 03-2019 Graphic: Oliver F. Lehmann
  • 40. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 PMI Global Executive Council PM Organizations per 2020
  • 41. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 More on Disciplined Agile • PMI.org/disciplined-agile • PMI members can download the Choose Your WoW book from pmi.org PM Organizations
  • 42. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Certifications: IPMA Levels (Germany) PM Organizations Level Type of test Price in € w/o prior level members / non-members With prior level Basic Level CBT 1.5 hrs 225/203 Level D CBT 3 hrs (or 1.5 hrs + report) 630/567 Lower price: 450/405 Level C CBT 2 hrs + report + workshop + interview 1935/1742 no workshop Level B CBT 1.5 hrs + report + workshop + interview 1935/1742 no workshop Level A Report + interview 2475 / 2228 hybrid+ CBT 2 hrs 290 / 261 Membership, annual fee Individual, regular $156 Numbe certified end of ~1,000 of whic ~15,00
  • 43. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Other Organizations & Approaches
  • 44. © 2022 Antje Lehmann-Benz Scrum Day 2022 Topics - PMI history (starting from the mid 1990s: looking in parallel also at how Scrum developed) - Present situation: PMI and its journey to get closer to the agile world (and why they're doing that), - Focus on Disciplined Agile - Quick glance at some other organizations such as IPMA, SAFe, … - What do the people associated with PMI (data, surveys, examples) want? - What do the people associated with Scrum want? (instant audience survey) - Which fields do practitioners feel are not tackled (enough) by either organization, or by their published standards? - How can we get these perspectives closer together and consolidate; also, why would we even want to do that - what could be the gain? Some suggestions and ideas - Discussion