Maven was asked to provide training to senior managers on project, programme, and portfolio management. They developed a four week interactive training programme to help managers articulate changes and identify dependencies between projects. Discussions identified projects that would be better as a programme, but senior managers still lacked programme management understanding. Maven provided a specialist to bring projects together into a programme and mentor a project manager to become the programme manager over six months. As a result, the programme is now underway with several projects delivered and positive customer feedback received. The senior managers have learned to identify opportunities where programme management can help manage interdependent projects more effectively.