This document discusses Mendler-style recursion schemes for mixed-variant datatypes. It introduces Mendler-style iteration (mit) and iteration with a syntactic inverse (msfit). msfit allows formatting of untyped and simply-typed higher-order abstract syntax (HOAS) by evaluating at different kinds. A new recursion scheme is proposed to define a function for evaluating simply-typed HOAS into a user-defined value domain. The relationship between Mu and Mu' fixed point types is also discussed.