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Medicare has offered a ChristianMedicare has offered a Christian
Science benefit since 1966Science benefit since 1966
 President Lyndon Johnson signedPresident Lyndon Johnson signed
Medicare amendment to SocialMedicare amendment to Social
Security Act on July 30, 1965.Security Act on July 30, 1965.
MEDICARE PART AMEDICARE PART A
 Part A – Hospital Insurance –Part A – Hospital Insurance –
covers stay in a Religiouscovers stay in a Religious
Nonmedical Health CareNonmedical Health Care
Institution or Hospital.Institution or Hospital.
 Christian Science NursingChristian Science Nursing
Facilities are called RNHCIs.Facilities are called RNHCIs.
MEDICARE PART AMEDICARE PART A
 Most people receive premium-free Part A coverage.Most people receive premium-free Part A coverage.
Part A is available for no cost at the age of 65 if:Part A is available for no cost at the age of 65 if:
– You are eligible for benefits from Social Security orYou are eligible for benefits from Social Security or
the Railroad Retirement Boardthe Railroad Retirement Board
– If you or your spouse worked at least 40 quarters,If you or your spouse worked at least 40 quarters,
oror
– You or your spouse had Medicare-coveredYou or your spouse had Medicare-covered
government employmentgovernment employment
 Those few who will want to purchase Part A, will payThose few who will want to purchase Part A, will pay
up to $426 each month.up to $426 each month.
MEDICARE PART AMEDICARE PART A
 If you're under the age of 65, you may beIf you're under the age of 65, you may be
eligible for Part A if you are disabled or haveeligible for Part A if you are disabled or have
other specific healthcare needs.other specific healthcare needs.
 The websiteThe website www.medicare.govwww.medicare.gov explainsexplains
the specific requirements.the specific requirements.
 In most cases, if you choose to purchaseIn most cases, if you choose to purchase
Part A, you must also have Medicare Part BPart A, you must also have Medicare Part B
and pay monthly premiums for both.and pay monthly premiums for both.
MEDICARE PART AMEDICARE PART A
 Some individuals will automatically beSome individuals will automatically be
enrolled in Medicare Part A and B.enrolled in Medicare Part A and B.
– If you are automatically enrolled, you willIf you are automatically enrolled, you will
receive your Medicare card in the mail 3receive your Medicare card in the mail 3
months before your 65th birthday.months before your 65th birthday.
MEDICARE PART AMEDICARE PART A
 Some individuals are not automaticallySome individuals are not automatically
enrolled in Medicare and will need toenrolled in Medicare and will need to
sign up for Medicare Part A and B.sign up for Medicare Part A and B.
– This includes those who aren’t receivingThis includes those who aren’t receiving
social security benefits yet because theysocial security benefits yet because they
are working.are working.
– If you need to sign up, contact the SocialIf you need to sign up, contact the Social
Security Administration or a SocialSecurity Administration or a Social
Security Office 3 months before your 65Security Office 3 months before your 65thth
birthday.birthday.
MEDICARE PART AMEDICARE PART A
 If you were still working at the age ofIf you were still working at the age of
65 and were covered by your65 and were covered by your
employer’s insurance plan, you mayemployer’s insurance plan, you may
want to contact the Medicarewant to contact the Medicare
Coordinator of Benefits and let themCoordinator of Benefits and let them
know that you are no longer workingknow that you are no longer working
so they can record Medicare as yourso they can record Medicare as your
primary payer.primary payer.
MEDICARE PART AMEDICARE PART A
 How to Sign Up for Part A and BHow to Sign Up for Part A and B
– Apply online at Social SecurityApply online at Social Security
– Visit your local Social Security officeVisit your local Social Security office
– Call Social Security at 1-800-772-1213Call Social Security at 1-800-772-1213
– If you worked for a railroad, call 1-877-If you worked for a railroad, call 1-877-
772-5772772-5772
 You don’t need to sign up for MedicareYou don’t need to sign up for Medicare
annually. However, each year you canannually. However, each year you can
review and change your benefits.review and change your benefits.
MEDICARE PART BMEDICARE PART B
 Part B – Medical Insurance which includes medicalPart B – Medical Insurance which includes medical
procedures, doctors, equipment, ambulanceprocedures, doctors, equipment, ambulance
services, etc…services, etc…
 Most people pay a monthly premium currentlyMost people pay a monthly premium currently
between $104.90 to $335.70 per month, based onbetween $104.90 to $335.70 per month, based on
income.income.
 Automatically enrolled in Part B, unless youAutomatically enrolled in Part B, unless you
specifically decline.specifically decline.
 Part B cannot be used in a Christian SciencePart B cannot be used in a Christian Science
Nursing Facility.Nursing Facility.
 Medigap or Medicare Supplement Insurance policyMedigap or Medicare Supplement Insurance policy
may require that you have Part B coverage.may require that you have Part B coverage.
MEDICARE PART BMEDICARE PART B
 How to Drop Part BHow to Drop Part B
– If your Medicare coverage hasn’t startedIf your Medicare coverage hasn’t started
yet:yet:
 And you were automatically enrolled in bothAnd you were automatically enrolled in both
Part A and Part B and sent a Medicare card,Part A and Part B and sent a Medicare card,
follow the instructions that come with thefollow the instructions that come with the
card, and send the card back. If you keep thecard, and send the card back. If you keep the
card, you keep Part B and will pay Part Bcard, you keep Part B and will pay Part B
premiums.premiums.
 Or if you signed up for Medicare versus beingOr if you signed up for Medicare versus being
automatically enrolled, contact Social Securityautomatically enrolled, contact Social Security
to drop Part B.  to drop Part B.  
MEDICARE PART BMEDICARE PART B
– If your Medicare coverage has alreadyIf your Medicare coverage has already
started:started:
 Contact Social Security for instructions onContact Social Security for instructions on
how to submit a signed request to drop Parthow to submit a signed request to drop Part
B. Your coverage will end the first of theB. Your coverage will end the first of the
month after Social Security gets your request.month after Social Security gets your request.
– You generally won’t be able to re-enroll inYou generally won’t be able to re-enroll in
Part B until the next enrollment periodPart B until the next enrollment period
(January 1 – March 31st) and you will(January 1 – March 31st) and you will
have to pay a late enrollment penalty,have to pay a late enrollment penalty,
which can be substantial.  which can be substantial.  
MEDICARE PART CMEDICARE PART C
 Part C – includes Managed CarePart C – includes Managed Care
Organizations, also known as HMOsOrganizations, also known as HMOs
(health maintenance organizations)(health maintenance organizations)
and PPOs (preferred providerand PPOs (preferred provider
organizations)organizations)
– Require prior written authorization forRequire prior written authorization for
coverage in a Christian Science Nursingcoverage in a Christian Science Nursing
Facility which can be difficult to obtain.Facility which can be difficult to obtain.
– Authorization must happen beforeAuthorization must happen before
admission or immediately upon arrival.admission or immediately upon arrival.
MEDICARE PART DMEDICARE PART D
 Part D – Prescription Drug Service –Part D – Prescription Drug Service –
most people pay a monthly premium.most people pay a monthly premium.
Insurance provided by privateInsurance provided by private
companies.companies.
 Part D cannot be used in a ChristianPart D cannot be used in a Christian
Science Nursing Facility.Science Nursing Facility.
REQUIREMENTS FORREQUIREMENTS FOR
MEDICARE COVERAGEMEDICARE COVERAGE
 For Medicare to cover ChristianFor Medicare to cover Christian
Science Nursing Care at a ChristianScience Nursing Care at a Christian
Science Nursing Facility, theScience Nursing Facility, the
beneficiary (patient) must:beneficiary (patient) must:
– sign an election formsign an election form
– have a condition that would qualify him orhave a condition that would qualify him or
her forher for inpatient care in a hospital or ainpatient care in a hospital or a
skilled nursing facilityskilled nursing facility
 A skilled nursing facility is not the same as aA skilled nursing facility is not the same as a
nursing homenursing home
MEDICARE ELECTIONSMEDICARE ELECTIONS
 When a patient is admitted, the patient willWhen a patient is admitted, the patient will
sign an election upon admission so it issign an election upon admission so it is
available for Medicare.available for Medicare.
 The election form is only sent to Medicare ifThe election form is only sent to Medicare if
the patient’s care level qualifies forthe patient’s care level qualifies for
Medicare.Medicare.
 Once an election is sent to Medicare it is inOnce an election is sent to Medicare it is in
effect until it is revoked by the patient.effect until it is revoked by the patient.
MEDICARE ELECTIONSMEDICARE ELECTIONS
 Prior to the filing of an election form, aPrior to the filing of an election form, a
Christian Scientist can use MedicareChristian Scientist can use Medicare
for medical services or supplies and itfor medical services or supplies and it
won’t impact the use of Medicare in awon’t impact the use of Medicare in a
Christian Science Nursing Facility.Christian Science Nursing Facility.
 After an election is filed, there areAfter an election is filed, there are
consequences associated with usingconsequences associated with using
Medicare for medical services andMedicare for medical services and
supplies.supplies.
MEDICARE ELECTIONSMEDICARE ELECTIONS
 Receiving medical care after anReceiving medical care after an
election is establishedelection is established
– Once – no waiting period.Once – no waiting period.
– Twice – 1 year waiting period.Twice – 1 year waiting period.
– Three Times – 5 year waiting period.Three Times – 5 year waiting period.
 A revocation doesn’t occur again untilA revocation doesn’t occur again until
a new election is filed.a new election is filed.
MEDICARE ELECTIONSMEDICARE ELECTIONS
 Example: a patient receives ChristianExample: a patient receives Christian
Science Nursing Care and signs anScience Nursing Care and signs an
election form. The patient thenelection form. The patient then
receives medical care.receives medical care.
– This creates one revocation.This creates one revocation.
– After the revocation occurs the patientAfter the revocation occurs the patient
can receive as much medical care ascan receive as much medical care as
they need or want.they need or want.
MEDICARE ELECTIONSMEDICARE ELECTIONS
– Then the patient returns to a ChristianThen the patient returns to a Christian
Science Nursing Facility. AfterScience Nursing Facility. After
discharging the facility the patientdischarging the facility the patient
purchases a wheelchair and usespurchases a wheelchair and uses
Medicare to pay for the purchase. TheMedicare to pay for the purchase. The
patient has just created a secondpatient has just created a second
revocation. Now the patient must wait onerevocation. Now the patient must wait one
year to re-enter a Christian Scienceyear to re-enter a Christian Science
Nursing Facility under Medicare.Nursing Facility under Medicare.
DETERMININGDETERMINING
COVERAGECOVERAGE
 Medicare does not require a medicalMedicare does not require a medical
diagnosis for Christian Scientistsdiagnosis for Christian Scientists
receiving care in a Christian Sciencereceiving care in a Christian Science
Nursing Facility.Nursing Facility.
 Using guidelines from Medicare, aUsing guidelines from Medicare, a
Christian Science Facility Nurse willChristian Science Facility Nurse will
determine if a patient’s care needsdetermine if a patient’s care needs
qualify for Medicare.qualify for Medicare.
MEDICARE COVERSMEDICARE COVERS
 Part A Includes: Christian SciencePart A Includes: Christian Science
Nursing ServicesNursing Services
 Room and mealsRoom and meals
 Most nursing suppliesMost nursing supplies
MEDICARE DOES NOTMEDICARE DOES NOT
COVERCOVER
 Christian Science Nursing Care thatChristian Science Nursing Care that
does not require adoes not require a JournalJournal-listed-listed
Christian Science NurseChristian Science Nurse
 Christian Science PractitionersChristian Science Practitioners
 Personal items such as telephone andPersonal items such as telephone and
hairdresser chargeshairdresser charges
 Rest and studyRest and study
 Private duty or home nursingPrivate duty or home nursing
PART A: WHAT YOUPART A: WHAT YOU
PAY (2014 Rates)PAY (2014 Rates)
Initial Period
60 days
Lifetime
Reserve
60 days
Co-insurance
Period 30 days
$1,216
Deductible
$304 per day
$608 per day
PART APART A
COVERAGECOVERAGE
 Medicare is designed for short term staysMedicare is designed for short term stays
and ends when the patient no longer has aand ends when the patient no longer has a
condition that would qualify for Medicarecondition that would qualify for Medicare
coverage in a hospital or a skilled nursingcoverage in a hospital or a skilled nursing
facility.facility.
 Christian Science nurses expect quickChristian Science nurses expect quick
healing. This progress may result inhealing. This progress may result in
nursing determining that the patient’snursing determining that the patient’s
condition no longer warrants Medicarecondition no longer warrants Medicare
coverage.coverage.
EXAMPLE OFEXAMPLE OF
COVERAGECOVERAGE
 Days 1 to 60 - all inclusive flat rate -Days 1 to 60 - all inclusive flat rate -
$420/day$420/day
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Month 1 (30 days) x $420 = $12,600Month 1 (30 days) x $420 = $12,600
Month 2 (30 days) x $420Month 2 (30 days) x $420 = $12,600= $12,600
Total ChargesTotal Charges ==
$25,200$25,200
You Pay $1,216You Pay $1,216
USING MEDICAREUSING MEDICARE
AGAINAGAIN
 Although Medicare is a short-term program, itAlthough Medicare is a short-term program, it
may be used more than once.may be used more than once.
 If 60 days has passed between stays in aIf 60 days has passed between stays in a
Christian Science Nursing Facility, anotherChristian Science Nursing Facility, another
deductible must be paid by the patient.deductible must be paid by the patient.
 If less than 60 days has passed betweenIf less than 60 days has passed between
stays in a Christian Science Nursing Facilitystays in a Christian Science Nursing Facility
and the patient has Medicare days remaining,and the patient has Medicare days remaining,
then Medicare picks up where it left off whenthen Medicare picks up where it left off when
the patient discharged.the patient discharged.
USING MEDICAREUSING MEDICARE
AGAINAGAIN
 Medicare may be used again at aMedicare may be used again at a
Christian Science Nursing Facility if:Christian Science Nursing Facility if:
– The patient is out of the facility for 60The patient is out of the facility for 60
days and does not use Medicaredays and does not use Medicare
anywhere.anywhere.
– Or, the patient remains in a ChristianOr, the patient remains in a Christian
Science Nursing Facility but at a lowerScience Nursing Facility but at a lower
level of care for 60 consecutive days.level of care for 60 consecutive days.
MEDICAID VSMEDICAID VS
MEDICAREMEDICARE
 MedicareMedicare
– Age 65 or older or disabledAge 65 or older or disabled
– Short termShort term
– Skilled careSkilled care
– No financial requirementsNo financial requirements
 MedicaidMedicaid
– Age 65 or older or disabledAge 65 or older or disabled
– Short or long termShort or long term
– Includes skilled and non-skilled careIncludes skilled and non-skilled care
– Less than $1,500 in financial assets (Ohio)Less than $1,500 in financial assets (Ohio)
MEDICAIDMEDICAID
 Two states with Christian ScienceTwo states with Christian Science
Nursing Facilities ther offer MedicaidNursing Facilities ther offer Medicaid
coverage to Christian Scientistscoverage to Christian Scientists
– OhioOhio
– California (MediCal)California (MediCal)
PHONE NUMBERS &PHONE NUMBERS &
WEBSITESWEBSITES
 MedicareMedicare
1-800-633-42271-800-633-4227
www.medicare.govwww.medicare.gov
 Social Security AdministrationSocial Security Administration
1-800-772-12131-800-772-1213
www.socialsecurity.govwww.socialsecurity.gov
 Peace HavenPeace Haven
1-314-965-38331-314-965-3833
www.peacehavenassociation.orgwww.peacehavenassociation.org
FACILITY PAYMENTSFACILITY PAYMENTS
 It is important to understand thatIt is important to understand that
neither Medicare or Medicaid coverneither Medicare or Medicaid cover
100% of the facility’s costs to operate100% of the facility’s costs to operate
and provide care.and provide care.
 An inherent amount of benevolence isAn inherent amount of benevolence is
given to all those who have Medicaregiven to all those who have Medicare
or Medicaid as their payer.or Medicaid as their payer.
INSURANCE FOR CSINSURANCE FOR CS
Three major types of insurance:Three major types of insurance:
 Medigap (Medicare Supplement)Medigap (Medicare Supplement)
 General Health Insurance PoliciesGeneral Health Insurance Policies
 Long Term Care (LTC)Long Term Care (LTC)
MEDIGAPMEDIGAP
Medicare Supplement InsuranceMedicare Supplement Insurance
 This covers the Medicare deductibleThis covers the Medicare deductible
and coinsurance. It may also coverand coinsurance. It may also cover
care after exhaustion of Medicarecare after exhaustion of Medicare
benefits.benefits.
HEALTH INSURANCEHEALTH INSURANCE
POLICIESPOLICIES
 Can be challenging to bill for coverage.Can be challenging to bill for coverage.
 Make sure Christian Science care isMake sure Christian Science care is
specificallyspecifically mentioned in the policy.mentioned in the policy.
 Don’t just accept that the policy will payDon’t just accept that the policy will pay
because the insurance agent says so.because the insurance agent says so.
LONG TERM CARELONG TERM CARE
(LTC)(LTC)
 Long Term Care InsuranceLong Term Care Insurance
– No diagnosis is usually requiredNo diagnosis is usually required
– Patient must need assistance with at least 2Patient must need assistance with at least 2
Activities of Daily Living (ADLs)Activities of Daily Living (ADLs)
 Examples of ADLs are mobility, eating,Examples of ADLs are mobility, eating,
dressing, etc…dressing, etc…
– Insurance companies generally only ask forInsurance companies generally only ask for
proof that care is being providedproof that care is being provided
– Benefits are usually significantly less than otherBenefits are usually significantly less than other
Health Insurance coverage ($100 - $200 a day)Health Insurance coverage ($100 - $200 a day)
INSURANCEINSURANCE
COMPANIESCOMPANIES
 Peace Haven does not recommendPeace Haven does not recommend
insurance, but the following companiesinsurance, but the following companies
have paid in the past:have paid in the past:
– United Health Care (Medicare Supplement)United Health Care (Medicare Supplement)
– AARP (Medicare Supplement)AARP (Medicare Supplement)
– UNUM (LTC)UNUM (LTC)
– SCS/Monumental (LTC)SCS/Monumental (LTC)
CONCLUSIONCONCLUSION
 Questions & AnswersQuestions & Answers
 Followed by a quick AffordableFollowed by a quick Affordable
Care Act UpdateCare Act Update

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Medicare workshop-presentation-2014

  • 1. Peace HavenPeace Haven Medicare WorkshopMedicare Workshop
  • 2. Medicare has offered a ChristianMedicare has offered a Christian Science benefit since 1966Science benefit since 1966  President Lyndon Johnson signedPresident Lyndon Johnson signed Medicare amendment to SocialMedicare amendment to Social Security Act on July 30, 1965.Security Act on July 30, 1965.
  • 3. MEDICARE PART AMEDICARE PART A  Part A – Hospital Insurance –Part A – Hospital Insurance – covers stay in a Religiouscovers stay in a Religious Nonmedical Health CareNonmedical Health Care Institution or Hospital.Institution or Hospital.  Christian Science NursingChristian Science Nursing Facilities are called RNHCIs.Facilities are called RNHCIs.
  • 4. MEDICARE PART AMEDICARE PART A  Most people receive premium-free Part A coverage.Most people receive premium-free Part A coverage. Part A is available for no cost at the age of 65 if:Part A is available for no cost at the age of 65 if: – You are eligible for benefits from Social Security orYou are eligible for benefits from Social Security or the Railroad Retirement Boardthe Railroad Retirement Board – If you or your spouse worked at least 40 quarters,If you or your spouse worked at least 40 quarters, oror – You or your spouse had Medicare-coveredYou or your spouse had Medicare-covered government employmentgovernment employment  Those few who will want to purchase Part A, will payThose few who will want to purchase Part A, will pay up to $426 each month.up to $426 each month.
  • 5. MEDICARE PART AMEDICARE PART A  If you're under the age of 65, you may beIf you're under the age of 65, you may be eligible for Part A if you are disabled or haveeligible for Part A if you are disabled or have other specific healthcare needs.other specific healthcare needs.  The websiteThe website www.medicare.govwww.medicare.gov explainsexplains the specific requirements.the specific requirements.  In most cases, if you choose to purchaseIn most cases, if you choose to purchase Part A, you must also have Medicare Part BPart A, you must also have Medicare Part B and pay monthly premiums for both.and pay monthly premiums for both.
  • 6. MEDICARE PART AMEDICARE PART A  Some individuals will automatically beSome individuals will automatically be enrolled in Medicare Part A and B.enrolled in Medicare Part A and B. – If you are automatically enrolled, you willIf you are automatically enrolled, you will receive your Medicare card in the mail 3receive your Medicare card in the mail 3 months before your 65th birthday.months before your 65th birthday.
  • 7. MEDICARE PART AMEDICARE PART A  Some individuals are not automaticallySome individuals are not automatically enrolled in Medicare and will need toenrolled in Medicare and will need to sign up for Medicare Part A and B.sign up for Medicare Part A and B. – This includes those who aren’t receivingThis includes those who aren’t receiving social security benefits yet because theysocial security benefits yet because they are working.are working. – If you need to sign up, contact the SocialIf you need to sign up, contact the Social Security Administration or a SocialSecurity Administration or a Social Security Office 3 months before your 65Security Office 3 months before your 65thth birthday.birthday.
  • 8. MEDICARE PART AMEDICARE PART A  If you were still working at the age ofIf you were still working at the age of 65 and were covered by your65 and were covered by your employer’s insurance plan, you mayemployer’s insurance plan, you may want to contact the Medicarewant to contact the Medicare Coordinator of Benefits and let themCoordinator of Benefits and let them know that you are no longer workingknow that you are no longer working so they can record Medicare as yourso they can record Medicare as your primary payer.primary payer.
  • 9. MEDICARE PART AMEDICARE PART A  How to Sign Up for Part A and BHow to Sign Up for Part A and B – Apply online at Social SecurityApply online at Social Security – Visit your local Social Security officeVisit your local Social Security office – Call Social Security at 1-800-772-1213Call Social Security at 1-800-772-1213 – If you worked for a railroad, call 1-877-If you worked for a railroad, call 1-877- 772-5772772-5772  You don’t need to sign up for MedicareYou don’t need to sign up for Medicare annually. However, each year you canannually. However, each year you can review and change your benefits.review and change your benefits.
  • 10. MEDICARE PART BMEDICARE PART B  Part B – Medical Insurance which includes medicalPart B – Medical Insurance which includes medical procedures, doctors, equipment, ambulanceprocedures, doctors, equipment, ambulance services, etc…services, etc…  Most people pay a monthly premium currentlyMost people pay a monthly premium currently between $104.90 to $335.70 per month, based onbetween $104.90 to $335.70 per month, based on income.income.  Automatically enrolled in Part B, unless youAutomatically enrolled in Part B, unless you specifically decline.specifically decline.  Part B cannot be used in a Christian SciencePart B cannot be used in a Christian Science Nursing Facility.Nursing Facility.  Medigap or Medicare Supplement Insurance policyMedigap or Medicare Supplement Insurance policy may require that you have Part B coverage.may require that you have Part B coverage.
  • 11. MEDICARE PART BMEDICARE PART B  How to Drop Part BHow to Drop Part B – If your Medicare coverage hasn’t startedIf your Medicare coverage hasn’t started yet:yet:  And you were automatically enrolled in bothAnd you were automatically enrolled in both Part A and Part B and sent a Medicare card,Part A and Part B and sent a Medicare card, follow the instructions that come with thefollow the instructions that come with the card, and send the card back. If you keep thecard, and send the card back. If you keep the card, you keep Part B and will pay Part Bcard, you keep Part B and will pay Part B premiums.premiums.  Or if you signed up for Medicare versus beingOr if you signed up for Medicare versus being automatically enrolled, contact Social Securityautomatically enrolled, contact Social Security to drop Part B.  to drop Part B.  
  • 12. MEDICARE PART BMEDICARE PART B – If your Medicare coverage has alreadyIf your Medicare coverage has already started:started:  Contact Social Security for instructions onContact Social Security for instructions on how to submit a signed request to drop Parthow to submit a signed request to drop Part B. Your coverage will end the first of theB. Your coverage will end the first of the month after Social Security gets your request.month after Social Security gets your request. – You generally won’t be able to re-enroll inYou generally won’t be able to re-enroll in Part B until the next enrollment periodPart B until the next enrollment period (January 1 – March 31st) and you will(January 1 – March 31st) and you will have to pay a late enrollment penalty,have to pay a late enrollment penalty, which can be substantial.  which can be substantial.  
  • 13. MEDICARE PART CMEDICARE PART C  Part C – includes Managed CarePart C – includes Managed Care Organizations, also known as HMOsOrganizations, also known as HMOs (health maintenance organizations)(health maintenance organizations) and PPOs (preferred providerand PPOs (preferred provider organizations)organizations) – Require prior written authorization forRequire prior written authorization for coverage in a Christian Science Nursingcoverage in a Christian Science Nursing Facility which can be difficult to obtain.Facility which can be difficult to obtain. – Authorization must happen beforeAuthorization must happen before admission or immediately upon arrival.admission or immediately upon arrival.
  • 14. MEDICARE PART DMEDICARE PART D  Part D – Prescription Drug Service –Part D – Prescription Drug Service – most people pay a monthly premium.most people pay a monthly premium. Insurance provided by privateInsurance provided by private companies.companies.  Part D cannot be used in a ChristianPart D cannot be used in a Christian Science Nursing Facility.Science Nursing Facility.
  • 15. REQUIREMENTS FORREQUIREMENTS FOR MEDICARE COVERAGEMEDICARE COVERAGE  For Medicare to cover ChristianFor Medicare to cover Christian Science Nursing Care at a ChristianScience Nursing Care at a Christian Science Nursing Facility, theScience Nursing Facility, the beneficiary (patient) must:beneficiary (patient) must: – sign an election formsign an election form – have a condition that would qualify him orhave a condition that would qualify him or her forher for inpatient care in a hospital or ainpatient care in a hospital or a skilled nursing facilityskilled nursing facility  A skilled nursing facility is not the same as aA skilled nursing facility is not the same as a nursing homenursing home
  • 16.
  • 17. MEDICARE ELECTIONSMEDICARE ELECTIONS  When a patient is admitted, the patient willWhen a patient is admitted, the patient will sign an election upon admission so it issign an election upon admission so it is available for Medicare.available for Medicare.  The election form is only sent to Medicare ifThe election form is only sent to Medicare if the patient’s care level qualifies forthe patient’s care level qualifies for Medicare.Medicare.  Once an election is sent to Medicare it is inOnce an election is sent to Medicare it is in effect until it is revoked by the patient.effect until it is revoked by the patient.
  • 18. MEDICARE ELECTIONSMEDICARE ELECTIONS  Prior to the filing of an election form, aPrior to the filing of an election form, a Christian Scientist can use MedicareChristian Scientist can use Medicare for medical services or supplies and itfor medical services or supplies and it won’t impact the use of Medicare in awon’t impact the use of Medicare in a Christian Science Nursing Facility.Christian Science Nursing Facility.  After an election is filed, there areAfter an election is filed, there are consequences associated with usingconsequences associated with using Medicare for medical services andMedicare for medical services and supplies.supplies.
  • 19. MEDICARE ELECTIONSMEDICARE ELECTIONS  Receiving medical care after anReceiving medical care after an election is establishedelection is established – Once – no waiting period.Once – no waiting period. – Twice – 1 year waiting period.Twice – 1 year waiting period. – Three Times – 5 year waiting period.Three Times – 5 year waiting period.  A revocation doesn’t occur again untilA revocation doesn’t occur again until a new election is filed.a new election is filed.
  • 20. MEDICARE ELECTIONSMEDICARE ELECTIONS  Example: a patient receives ChristianExample: a patient receives Christian Science Nursing Care and signs anScience Nursing Care and signs an election form. The patient thenelection form. The patient then receives medical care.receives medical care. – This creates one revocation.This creates one revocation. – After the revocation occurs the patientAfter the revocation occurs the patient can receive as much medical care ascan receive as much medical care as they need or want.they need or want.
  • 21. MEDICARE ELECTIONSMEDICARE ELECTIONS – Then the patient returns to a ChristianThen the patient returns to a Christian Science Nursing Facility. AfterScience Nursing Facility. After discharging the facility the patientdischarging the facility the patient purchases a wheelchair and usespurchases a wheelchair and uses Medicare to pay for the purchase. TheMedicare to pay for the purchase. The patient has just created a secondpatient has just created a second revocation. Now the patient must wait onerevocation. Now the patient must wait one year to re-enter a Christian Scienceyear to re-enter a Christian Science Nursing Facility under Medicare.Nursing Facility under Medicare.
  • 22. DETERMININGDETERMINING COVERAGECOVERAGE  Medicare does not require a medicalMedicare does not require a medical diagnosis for Christian Scientistsdiagnosis for Christian Scientists receiving care in a Christian Sciencereceiving care in a Christian Science Nursing Facility.Nursing Facility.  Using guidelines from Medicare, aUsing guidelines from Medicare, a Christian Science Facility Nurse willChristian Science Facility Nurse will determine if a patient’s care needsdetermine if a patient’s care needs qualify for Medicare.qualify for Medicare.
  • 23. MEDICARE COVERSMEDICARE COVERS  Part A Includes: Christian SciencePart A Includes: Christian Science Nursing ServicesNursing Services  Room and mealsRoom and meals  Most nursing suppliesMost nursing supplies
  • 24. MEDICARE DOES NOTMEDICARE DOES NOT COVERCOVER  Christian Science Nursing Care thatChristian Science Nursing Care that does not require adoes not require a JournalJournal-listed-listed Christian Science NurseChristian Science Nurse  Christian Science PractitionersChristian Science Practitioners  Personal items such as telephone andPersonal items such as telephone and hairdresser chargeshairdresser charges  Rest and studyRest and study  Private duty or home nursingPrivate duty or home nursing
  • 25. PART A: WHAT YOUPART A: WHAT YOU PAY (2014 Rates)PAY (2014 Rates) Initial Period 60 days Lifetime Reserve 60 days Co-insurance Period 30 days $1,216 Deductible $304 per day $608 per day
  • 26. PART APART A COVERAGECOVERAGE  Medicare is designed for short term staysMedicare is designed for short term stays and ends when the patient no longer has aand ends when the patient no longer has a condition that would qualify for Medicarecondition that would qualify for Medicare coverage in a hospital or a skilled nursingcoverage in a hospital or a skilled nursing facility.facility.  Christian Science nurses expect quickChristian Science nurses expect quick healing. This progress may result inhealing. This progress may result in nursing determining that the patient’snursing determining that the patient’s condition no longer warrants Medicarecondition no longer warrants Medicare coverage.coverage.
  • 27. EXAMPLE OFEXAMPLE OF COVERAGECOVERAGE  Days 1 to 60 - all inclusive flat rate -Days 1 to 60 - all inclusive flat rate - $420/day$420/day -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Month 1 (30 days) x $420 = $12,600Month 1 (30 days) x $420 = $12,600 Month 2 (30 days) x $420Month 2 (30 days) x $420 = $12,600= $12,600 Total ChargesTotal Charges == $25,200$25,200 You Pay $1,216You Pay $1,216
  • 28. USING MEDICAREUSING MEDICARE AGAINAGAIN  Although Medicare is a short-term program, itAlthough Medicare is a short-term program, it may be used more than once.may be used more than once.  If 60 days has passed between stays in aIf 60 days has passed between stays in a Christian Science Nursing Facility, anotherChristian Science Nursing Facility, another deductible must be paid by the patient.deductible must be paid by the patient.  If less than 60 days has passed betweenIf less than 60 days has passed between stays in a Christian Science Nursing Facilitystays in a Christian Science Nursing Facility and the patient has Medicare days remaining,and the patient has Medicare days remaining, then Medicare picks up where it left off whenthen Medicare picks up where it left off when the patient discharged.the patient discharged.
  • 29. USING MEDICAREUSING MEDICARE AGAINAGAIN  Medicare may be used again at aMedicare may be used again at a Christian Science Nursing Facility if:Christian Science Nursing Facility if: – The patient is out of the facility for 60The patient is out of the facility for 60 days and does not use Medicaredays and does not use Medicare anywhere.anywhere. – Or, the patient remains in a ChristianOr, the patient remains in a Christian Science Nursing Facility but at a lowerScience Nursing Facility but at a lower level of care for 60 consecutive days.level of care for 60 consecutive days.
  • 30. MEDICAID VSMEDICAID VS MEDICAREMEDICARE  MedicareMedicare – Age 65 or older or disabledAge 65 or older or disabled – Short termShort term – Skilled careSkilled care – No financial requirementsNo financial requirements  MedicaidMedicaid – Age 65 or older or disabledAge 65 or older or disabled – Short or long termShort or long term – Includes skilled and non-skilled careIncludes skilled and non-skilled care – Less than $1,500 in financial assets (Ohio)Less than $1,500 in financial assets (Ohio)
  • 31. MEDICAIDMEDICAID  Two states with Christian ScienceTwo states with Christian Science Nursing Facilities ther offer MedicaidNursing Facilities ther offer Medicaid coverage to Christian Scientistscoverage to Christian Scientists – OhioOhio – California (MediCal)California (MediCal)
  • 32. PHONE NUMBERS &PHONE NUMBERS & WEBSITESWEBSITES  MedicareMedicare 1-800-633-42271-800-633-4227 www.medicare.govwww.medicare.gov  Social Security AdministrationSocial Security Administration 1-800-772-12131-800-772-1213 www.socialsecurity.govwww.socialsecurity.gov  Peace HavenPeace Haven 1-314-965-38331-314-965-3833 www.peacehavenassociation.orgwww.peacehavenassociation.org
  • 33. FACILITY PAYMENTSFACILITY PAYMENTS  It is important to understand thatIt is important to understand that neither Medicare or Medicaid coverneither Medicare or Medicaid cover 100% of the facility’s costs to operate100% of the facility’s costs to operate and provide care.and provide care.  An inherent amount of benevolence isAn inherent amount of benevolence is given to all those who have Medicaregiven to all those who have Medicare or Medicaid as their payer.or Medicaid as their payer.
  • 34. INSURANCE FOR CSINSURANCE FOR CS Three major types of insurance:Three major types of insurance:  Medigap (Medicare Supplement)Medigap (Medicare Supplement)  General Health Insurance PoliciesGeneral Health Insurance Policies  Long Term Care (LTC)Long Term Care (LTC)
  • 35. MEDIGAPMEDIGAP Medicare Supplement InsuranceMedicare Supplement Insurance  This covers the Medicare deductibleThis covers the Medicare deductible and coinsurance. It may also coverand coinsurance. It may also cover care after exhaustion of Medicarecare after exhaustion of Medicare benefits.benefits.
  • 36. HEALTH INSURANCEHEALTH INSURANCE POLICIESPOLICIES  Can be challenging to bill for coverage.Can be challenging to bill for coverage.  Make sure Christian Science care isMake sure Christian Science care is specificallyspecifically mentioned in the policy.mentioned in the policy.  Don’t just accept that the policy will payDon’t just accept that the policy will pay because the insurance agent says so.because the insurance agent says so.
  • 37. LONG TERM CARELONG TERM CARE (LTC)(LTC)  Long Term Care InsuranceLong Term Care Insurance – No diagnosis is usually requiredNo diagnosis is usually required – Patient must need assistance with at least 2Patient must need assistance with at least 2 Activities of Daily Living (ADLs)Activities of Daily Living (ADLs)  Examples of ADLs are mobility, eating,Examples of ADLs are mobility, eating, dressing, etc…dressing, etc… – Insurance companies generally only ask forInsurance companies generally only ask for proof that care is being providedproof that care is being provided – Benefits are usually significantly less than otherBenefits are usually significantly less than other Health Insurance coverage ($100 - $200 a day)Health Insurance coverage ($100 - $200 a day)
  • 38. INSURANCEINSURANCE COMPANIESCOMPANIES  Peace Haven does not recommendPeace Haven does not recommend insurance, but the following companiesinsurance, but the following companies have paid in the past:have paid in the past: – United Health Care (Medicare Supplement)United Health Care (Medicare Supplement) – AARP (Medicare Supplement)AARP (Medicare Supplement) – UNUM (LTC)UNUM (LTC) – SCS/Monumental (LTC)SCS/Monumental (LTC)
  • 39. CONCLUSIONCONCLUSION  Questions & AnswersQuestions & Answers  Followed by a quick AffordableFollowed by a quick Affordable Care Act UpdateCare Act Update

Editor's Notes

  1. Good morning. We are so happy you are here with us to learn more about Medicare. I am Sara Thorndike, Peace Haven’s Controller. Nine years ago I moved to St. Louis to work at Principia and four years ago I joined Peace Haven as their Controller. I also work for Glenmont, the Christian Science nursing facility in Columbus, Ohio. I have been processing Medicare claims for Christian Science nursing facilities for 13 years. Today’s panel is comprised of members of the Third Party Payer Committee which is a group that is sponsored by the Association of Christian Science Nurses. The committee members come from various Christian Science Nursing Facilities and work with Medicare and insurance on a regular basis. Collectively the panel has nearly 50 years of Medicare billing experience. It is my pleasure to introduce today’s panel: Devon Green from Sunland Home in California, Alisa Greiner from Wide Horizon in Colorado, Leslie Connery from the Committee on Publication Office at The Mother Church and Virginia Hughes from High Ridge House in New York. Christian Science nursing facilities are quite unique when compared to other Medicare providers. It is important for each of us to understand how Medicare works for us as Christian Scientists. This morning we will share with you how to avoid or at least minimize some of the challenges associated with getting Christian Science Nursing services covered by Medicare. Periodically during the presentation we will ask if you have any questions and the panel will share some of their experiences. At the end of our time together Leslie will share a quick Affordable Care Act update with us. So, let’s get started. We are here today to help you make informed decisions. By the end of this morning’s talk, we want to provide you with answers to the following questions. How do you enroll in Medicare Part A? Why might you want to pay for Medicare Part B? Why should you consider not enrolling in Part C? What are the advantages to purchasing a Medigap or insurance policy. What are the consequences of switching back and forth between medical and Christian Science care? We have provided you with a handout. Feel free to follow along.
  2. Medicare was established in 1965 during President Johnson’s administration. Christian Science Nursing has been part of Medicare since 1966.
  3. Medicare defines Christian Science Nursing Facilities as Religious Non-medical Healthcare Institutions or RNHCIs. There are several parts to Medicare. Part A is typically used in a hospital or a skilled nursing facility setting. Part A also covers services in a Christian Science Nursing facility.
  4. READ SLIDE FIRST Once you are no longer working, you have 8 months to sign up for Medicare. Let me share an example with you. We have had several cases at Peace Haven where individuals who were formerly covered by the Principia insurance plan were still registered with Medicare as having Principia insurance as their primary coverage. It can take weeks, if not months, to get this straightened out with Medicare. So being proactive to confirm that Medicare is your primary payer is very important. The phone number for the Medicare Coordinator of Benefits is included in your handout. You must be the person to call on your behalf or have an official power of attorney on record with social security who can call for you. If you or your spouse are currently employed by Principia, PrinCare is your primary payer even if you are 65 years or older and eligible for Medicare. This means that PrinCare should pay your healthcare claims, not Medicare.
  5. Discussion after slide
  6. READ SLIDE FIRST If you are enrolled in a health maintenance organization (HMO) you will need to receive most or all of your health care from a network provider. A preferred provider organization (PPO) is a health plan that has contracts with a network of "preferred" providers from which you can choose. Although we can’t tell you what Medicare plans to sign up for, we do want to share with you how difficult it is to get coverage in a Christian Science Nursing Facility if you have elected Part C instead of Part A and B coverage. We would like to encourage those who are already covered by Medicare to check your Medicare card and see if it indicates that you are covered by a HMO or a PPO plan. It is important that you understand the differences between Part A and Part C plans when you are weighing your Medicare options. You may want to consider switching to traditional Medicare if they have a PPO or a HMO plan. Taking care of this when you have a nursing need is really too late to start the process. It can take weeks to make a change from a PPO or HMO plan to traditional Medicare and the change doesn’t take effect until the first of the following month after it is approved by Medicare at which point you may have incurred a large bill that you will have to pay. It is important for the patient or their healthcare proxy to understand what coverage they have so the Christian Science Nursing Facility knows if prior authorization is required for the patient to use their Medicare benefit. Otherwise the facility may not realize that the patient doesn’t have Medicare coverage until the first claim is denied by Medicare, which can be a month or more after the patient is admitted. Each day that Medicare doesn’t cover will cost the patient at least $420 per pay out of pocket or $12,600 a month at Peace Haven.
  7. READ SLIDE At this time we would like to ask if you have any questions related to enrollment.
  8. Just because a patient is admitted into a Christian Science Nursing Facility, doesn’t necessarily mean that Medicare will pay for those services. At Peace Haven there are several levels of care and only one is covered by Medicare. THEN READ SLIDE
  9. An election form is required because Medicare does not want Christian Scientists switching back and forth between Christian Science and medical coverage. The wording on the election is the same for all facilities and is required by Medicare. Let’s review the election form together. You can find a copy on the back of your handout. I hereby elect to receive Medicare benefits for nursing services furnished in religious nonmedical health care institutions.   I am conscientiously opposed to acceptance of nonexcepted medical treatment. (Nonexcepted is another word in the Medicare regulations for voluntary.)   I acknowledge that acceptance of nonexcepted medical treatment is inconsistent with my sincere religious beliefs.   I acknowledge that receipt of nonexcepted medical treatment constitutes a revocation of this election and may limit my further receipt of services in a religious nonmedical health care institution. In a moment I will explain how a revocation may occur.   I acknowledge that this election may be revoked by submitting a written statement to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.   I acknowledge that revocation of this election will not prevent or delay access to medical services available under Medicare Part A in facilities other than religious nonmedical health care institutions.   A notary must be present to witness all signatures on this form. To properly complete the election form the patient needs to have their Medicare card and picture ID with them when admitting to a facility.
  10. DON’T READ SLIDE Once this election form has been signed, the patient will automatically revoke his Christian Science election if he uses his Medicare card for treatment in a medical setting. If a revocation occurs, a new election form must be filled out before Medicare coverage can be reinstated for use in a Christian Science Nursing Facility. There is an exception. If a patient is forced to use his Medicare coverage because the government requires medical treatment or the patient is given medical treatment without his consent, for example if he is unconscious, these services should not create a revocation of the Christian Science election. Revoking this election once is permitted. Revoking it twice triggers a one- year waiting period from the date of the second revocation before the patient can use his Medicare in a Christian Science Nursing Facility again. Revoking this election three times triggers a five-year waiting period from the third revocation date before the patient can use his Medicare in a Christian Science Nursing Facility. Any subsequent revocation will also require a five-year waiting period If a patient has signed an election in one Christian Science Nursing Facility, the patient does not need to sign a new election to be admitted on Medicare in a different Christian Science Nursing Facility. However, it is necessary to have a copy of the original election on file at both facilities.
  11. Is this clear to everyone? Are there any questions? Would another example be helpful?
  12. Are there any questions about what is or is not covered in a Christian Science Nursing Facility?
  13. Let’s review what a patient pays when they are on Medicare. The patient pays a $1,216 deductible for the first 60 days of care. If the charges are less than $1,216, the patient pays the lesser amount. On day 61, the patient begins paying a $304 per day co-insurance. On day 91, the patient can elect lifetime reserve days. However, Peace Haven’s daily rate is less than the lifetime reserve day co-insurance. So unless an insurance policy requires the use of lifetime reserve days, a Peace Haven patient wouldn’t ever want to elect the use of lifetime reserve days. Christian Science Nursing Facility deductibles and coinsurance are the same as those used in hospitals. Medicare mandates the amounts that must be charged. The deductible and co-insurance are the same for all Christian Science Nursing Facilities and change annually in January. If a patient comes to a Christian Science Nursing Facility from a hospital or another Christian Science Nursing Facility, the Medicare days the patient used in the hospital or other facility reduce the number of remaining available days.
  14. Let’s look at an example at Peace Haven. If a patient stays on Medicare for 2 months, the total charges would be $25,200. The patient is responsible for paying $1,216 and Medicare will pay the remaining balance of $23,984.
  15. Let’s talk about Medicaid versus Medicare. READ SLIDE
  16. READ SLIDE If you have any Ohio Medicaid questions, I am available to answer them after the presentation. If you have any California MediCal questions, we can help connect you with a committee member from a California facility that accepts MediCal.
  17. Your handout includes numbers for Medicare, Social Security and Peace Haven for future reference.
  18. Questions?
  19. We have shared a lot of detailed information today to help us all be better informed Christian Scientists. Our strongest ally through this process is prayer. Prayer will lead us to make informed decisions and take right steps moving us through this process fearlessly and with confidence. We are happy to answer any additional questions you have.