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1. Minimisation
2. Policy vs policy
3. Confusion
4. Public Perception
5. The Wild West
6. The Dryer & the Deep Freeze
7. Experts
8. Regulatory Capture
9. Top 10 Tips
Public Insurer = EQC = EQC Act
Private Insurer = State, AMI, BNZ, ASB,
Tower, Westpac, Lumley, FMG, MAS =
Private Insurance Policy
Both are INSURERS
1. MINIMISATION
Loss Reserve
–the name of the game is
get claim settled at or below
your Loss Reserve
“What I do know is
that we can expect
90% of claims to be
under the EQC’s
$100,000 cap”
Tim Grafton, Insurance Council of NZ
3 December 2016
2. Policy/Act vs
policy
Insurers have policies
that minimise your
entitlements under
the Insurance
Policy/Act
The lesson insurers learnt
from Christchurch was ‘get
in, assess and settle quickly
and get out’ before folks
start understanding their
actual entitlements
= MOU
MOU Clause 3:
“Acting in
Accordance with
the EQC Act”
“3.1 In this MOU the phase “in
accordance with the EQC Act”
and similar references means
in accordance with the EQC
Act (Policy) as interpreted by
EQC (policy) and notified to
the relevant Insurer”
MOU Clause 10:
“EQC policies”
“10.1 EQC will provide Insurers
with policies as to how it
applies the EQC Act (Policy)
and Insurers are entitled to
rely on such policies (as
updated and notified to the
Insurers in writing from time to
time)”
“No policies, as described in clause
10.1 of the Memorandum of
Understanding Relating to Kaikoura,
exist at this time. Accordingly, your
request for this information is refused
under section 18(e) of the Official
Information Act: that the document
alleged to contain the information
does not exist”
EQC OIA response 1 February 2017
Your Private Insurer is just acting
as an agent for your Public Insurer
for damage less than $100,000.
If you are having trouble with
your initial assessment – go
straight to EQC – they are the
ones you have a Policy with.
3. CONFUSION
INDEMNITY COVER
VS. REPLACEMENT
COVER
INDEMNITY:
“An indemnity policy puts you
back in the same financial
position you were in prior to
the loss occurring, so that you
are no better or worse off than
you were immediately before
the loss”
REPLACEMENT:
“This is a policy under which
an insurance company will
replace a lost or destroyed
item with a new one, or
repair the item so it is as
new as practically possible”
EQC Dwelling
Cover is
REPLACEMENT
COVER (‘as new’
not ‘same as’)
“Minor repair costs very
rapidly escalate beyond the
EQC residential building cap of
$100,000 plus GST”
EQC’s Engineers – Tonkin & Taylor – 1st Report dated October 2010
“Kaikoura's worst-hit residents
fear their decimated land may
also be written off, and the
Earthquake Commission (EQC)
is yet to determine how it will
settle the region's land claims”
ChCh Press 17 November 2016
4. PUBLIC
PERCEPTION
“Claims were settled
to standards of
individual and overall
fairness perceived as
acceptable by the
public”
EQC Review May 2009
5. THE WILD
WEST
- Fair Insurance Code
- Insurance and Financial
Services Ombudsman Ltd
- Financial Services
Complaints Ltd
- Breakthrough Services
- Residential Advisory Service
6. THE DRYER
& THE DEEP
FREEZE
GATE 1 = INDENTIFY,
AGREE AND DOCUMENT
DAMAGE CAUSED BY EQ
THEN
GATE 2 = AGREE METHOD
TO REPAIR OR REPLACE
7. EXPERTS
“10.9 Engineering Services…Any
engineering services procured by
an Insurer for the purposes of
assessing or reaching a Settlement
decision must not be provided by
a person or a firm that EQC has
advised the relevant insurer that
EQC does not wish to obtain
services from”
8. REGULATORY
CAPTURE
“In Policy/Act
Resolution” vs
“External
Resolution”
In Policy/Act:
1. Payment of Cash Equivalent reinstatement costs
“As incurred”?; or
2. EQC/Insurer Managed Reinstatement
“Reasonably Sufficient”?
3. Indemnity Cash Payment
External Resolution:
1. One off negotiated cash payment to go away
In Policy/Act: (20%)
1. Payment of Cash Equivalent reinstatement costs
“As incurred”?; or
2. EQC/Insurer Managed Reinstatement
“Reasonably Sufficient”?
3. Indemnity Cash Payment
External Resolution: (80%)
1. One off negotiated cash payment to go away
“Before the quakes
everyone wanted to avoid
a building consent, now
that EQC and insurers are
paying everyone wants
one”
TOP 10 TIPS:
1. If their lips are moving then they are lying to
you. It’s not personal – its business. Get it in
unequivocal writting (no might’s, maybe’s, if’s or
but’s)
2. Pick on the big issues, these are the most
likely to move their pre-determined Loss
Reserve.
TOP 10 TIPS:
3. Understand your Insurance Policy/EQC Act
and then ask for and understand their policies
on interpretation of the Policy/EQC Act – they
can be very wrong and tend to make and change
policies on the fly!
4. In my experience don’t step out of “Policy”
until the last minute, your stated intentions
mean a lot.
TOP 10 TIPS:
5. Figure our your settlement strategy
as soon as you can, this isn’t their first
rodeo, but it will be yours.
6. Public perception is everything to
the industry, use the media as a
community
TOP 10 TIPS:
7. Don’t give them control of experts and
experts instructions, or the Council!
8. Treat “free dispute resolution services” with
some caution.
9. Decide early on if you have it in you to
withstand the Dryer – sometimes hanging out to
dry can be less painful and you get the same
result!
10. IT’S UP TO
YOU!

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Loss Reserves, and 90% of Kaikoura Claims Undercap! (Kaikoura Meeting)

  • 1. 1. Minimisation 2. Policy vs policy 3. Confusion 4. Public Perception 5. The Wild West 6. The Dryer & the Deep Freeze 7. Experts 8. Regulatory Capture 9. Top 10 Tips
  • 2. Public Insurer = EQC = EQC Act Private Insurer = State, AMI, BNZ, ASB, Tower, Westpac, Lumley, FMG, MAS = Private Insurance Policy Both are INSURERS
  • 4. Loss Reserve –the name of the game is get claim settled at or below your Loss Reserve
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  • 6. “What I do know is that we can expect 90% of claims to be under the EQC’s $100,000 cap” Tim Grafton, Insurance Council of NZ 3 December 2016
  • 8. Insurers have policies that minimise your entitlements under the Insurance Policy/Act
  • 9. The lesson insurers learnt from Christchurch was ‘get in, assess and settle quickly and get out’ before folks start understanding their actual entitlements = MOU
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  • 11. MOU Clause 3: “Acting in Accordance with the EQC Act”
  • 12. “3.1 In this MOU the phase “in accordance with the EQC Act” and similar references means in accordance with the EQC Act (Policy) as interpreted by EQC (policy) and notified to the relevant Insurer”
  • 13. MOU Clause 10: “EQC policies”
  • 14. “10.1 EQC will provide Insurers with policies as to how it applies the EQC Act (Policy) and Insurers are entitled to rely on such policies (as updated and notified to the Insurers in writing from time to time)”
  • 15. “No policies, as described in clause 10.1 of the Memorandum of Understanding Relating to Kaikoura, exist at this time. Accordingly, your request for this information is refused under section 18(e) of the Official Information Act: that the document alleged to contain the information does not exist” EQC OIA response 1 February 2017
  • 16. Your Private Insurer is just acting as an agent for your Public Insurer for damage less than $100,000. If you are having trouble with your initial assessment – go straight to EQC – they are the ones you have a Policy with.
  • 19. INDEMNITY: “An indemnity policy puts you back in the same financial position you were in prior to the loss occurring, so that you are no better or worse off than you were immediately before the loss”
  • 20. REPLACEMENT: “This is a policy under which an insurance company will replace a lost or destroyed item with a new one, or repair the item so it is as new as practically possible”
  • 21. EQC Dwelling Cover is REPLACEMENT COVER (‘as new’ not ‘same as’)
  • 22. “Minor repair costs very rapidly escalate beyond the EQC residential building cap of $100,000 plus GST” EQC’s Engineers – Tonkin & Taylor – 1st Report dated October 2010
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  • 26. “Kaikoura's worst-hit residents fear their decimated land may also be written off, and the Earthquake Commission (EQC) is yet to determine how it will settle the region's land claims” ChCh Press 17 November 2016
  • 28. “Claims were settled to standards of individual and overall fairness perceived as acceptable by the public” EQC Review May 2009
  • 30. - Fair Insurance Code - Insurance and Financial Services Ombudsman Ltd - Financial Services Complaints Ltd - Breakthrough Services - Residential Advisory Service
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  • 32. 6. THE DRYER & THE DEEP FREEZE
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  • 35. GATE 1 = INDENTIFY, AGREE AND DOCUMENT DAMAGE CAUSED BY EQ THEN GATE 2 = AGREE METHOD TO REPAIR OR REPLACE
  • 37. “10.9 Engineering Services…Any engineering services procured by an Insurer for the purposes of assessing or reaching a Settlement decision must not be provided by a person or a firm that EQC has advised the relevant insurer that EQC does not wish to obtain services from”
  • 40. In Policy/Act: 1. Payment of Cash Equivalent reinstatement costs “As incurred”?; or 2. EQC/Insurer Managed Reinstatement “Reasonably Sufficient”? 3. Indemnity Cash Payment External Resolution: 1. One off negotiated cash payment to go away
  • 41. In Policy/Act: (20%) 1. Payment of Cash Equivalent reinstatement costs “As incurred”?; or 2. EQC/Insurer Managed Reinstatement “Reasonably Sufficient”? 3. Indemnity Cash Payment External Resolution: (80%) 1. One off negotiated cash payment to go away
  • 42. “Before the quakes everyone wanted to avoid a building consent, now that EQC and insurers are paying everyone wants one”
  • 43. TOP 10 TIPS: 1. If their lips are moving then they are lying to you. It’s not personal – its business. Get it in unequivocal writting (no might’s, maybe’s, if’s or but’s) 2. Pick on the big issues, these are the most likely to move their pre-determined Loss Reserve.
  • 44. TOP 10 TIPS: 3. Understand your Insurance Policy/EQC Act and then ask for and understand their policies on interpretation of the Policy/EQC Act – they can be very wrong and tend to make and change policies on the fly! 4. In my experience don’t step out of “Policy” until the last minute, your stated intentions mean a lot.
  • 45. TOP 10 TIPS: 5. Figure our your settlement strategy as soon as you can, this isn’t their first rodeo, but it will be yours. 6. Public perception is everything to the industry, use the media as a community
  • 46. TOP 10 TIPS: 7. Don’t give them control of experts and experts instructions, or the Council! 8. Treat “free dispute resolution services” with some caution. 9. Decide early on if you have it in you to withstand the Dryer – sometimes hanging out to dry can be less painful and you get the same result!
  • 47. 10. IT’S UP TO YOU!