If DLE is the Answer, What is the Question? John Mayer Executive Director Center for Computer-Assisted Legal Instruction 312-906-5307 [email_address]
What is Distance Legal Education? Obvious Videoconference Courses Web courses Media by Mail Less Obvious Co-teaching Guest lecturers Partial DLE DLE “pieces” “ Outside the Box” LE for non-lawyers (for profit?) LE for the public (public service) Expanding Int’l opportunities
What is Distance Legal Education? Synchronous Videoconferencing Webcast Chat Conference call Asynchronous Web-based materials Lessons Discussion  (threaded, email, etc.) Offline Access Course Design Technology Staffing Costs Scalability Re-use
Why is DLE Interesting? Learning anytime, anywhere Student-centered learning model Attuned to Net-Gen students Attract or serve previously un-servable students Co-optition  (cooperate & compete) New Markets/Revenue … most important
Why is DLE Interesting? REQUIRES FACULTY AND INSTITUTIONS TO EXAMINE THE LEARNING PROCESS TO
… but, does Legal Education need to improve? Too expensive Grads not ready for practice Faculty emphasize scholarship - teaching excellence is not rewarded Exercise: What is Broken in Legal Education? want
Law is more important than ever Law is more ubiquitous than ever Law is non-violent war Law is friction to business Law is codified morality Law is advocacy’s sharpest tool Law practice is legal education for clients … in short… EVERYONE  should be a lawyer!
Law is more important than ever We didn’t use to question our doctors… We didn’t use to know so much about computers “ Legal Literacy” is the  next big global/societal  literacy wave
Why is DLE Interesting?
Defensive Distance Learning Online law schools succeeding There are new for-profit law schools in the US that challenge the traditional model of LE Huge unmet demand for legal assistance Huge increases in SRLs and greater demand for A2J
DLE Compellers Make money Not lose money Not lose academic control Altruism Exercise: What is compelling DLE at your school? Exercise: What about DLE is compelling to you?
Barriers to DLE Institutional Interest Aversion to Pioneering  Technical challenges Finding the markets Administrivia Quality What is everyone else doing?
 
Address N x M Problem Web services, tools, databases, surveys, etc. Training –  maybe Bring to surface scattered interest Don’t have to start from scratch Applied Research Goals of CODEC: Lowering the Barriers
Observe Report Disseminate Facilitate Innovate
Progress Report 48 members http:// codec.cali.org Presentations at 6 schools Japan and Europe Peter Martin’s DE on DLE Videoconferencing Survey Classifieds  Grades and Calendars ClassCaster
Videoconferencing Survey 77 Responders / October 2004 22% do not use VC 17% use university computing or media services for VC 25% have  NO  VC facilities at law school 39% have roll-around units 25% have perm-installed seminar room for VC
Videoconferencing Survey 49% used VC for guest lecturers 40% have used VC for a semester-length course 41% conducted NO course related VC in FY03-04 11% conducted several/week course-related VC sessions 34% used VC for student interviews
Progress Report 48 members http:// codec.cali.org Presentations at 6 schools Japan and Europe Peter Martin’s DE on DLE Videoconferencing Survey Classifieds  Grades and Calendars ClassCaster
Classifieds codec.cali.org
Grades and Calendars Calendars are a slog and we are slogging Grades need a deft touch and we are looking for consulting help
ClassCaster New Service from  www.classcaster.org Classroom + Podcasting  (but this goes way beyond the classroom) Even Luddite Faculty Can Use It experimental
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1. Register at CALI website 2. When class starts,  Make a phone call 3. Teach the class 4. Students download to their iPod or listen to the lecture  via the web. 5. Faculty downloads and edits For future classes, distance  learning, etc.
2. In class, play back the interview Outside of class, call your interviewee and conference in ClassCaster ClassCaster 3. After class, students can listen to the interview via the web or download to their MP3player
Audio Legal Education Ideas Pre-recorded interviews with attorneys in current events cases “Phone in” lectures instead of canceling class Audio exam reviews “Director Commentary” on Law Review Articles Mystery Science Theatre CALI lessons
This is where I ended the presentation due to time constraints.  The rest is about Classcaster.  There is a complete presentation on this in my other conference session.
Faculty goes to CALI website and runs CALI lesson in “Classcaster” mode 2. Faculty records commentary by phone or directly into PC with USB microphone 3. Faculty gets unique URL and sends it to students or posts to  class website 4. Student runs CALI lessons  from that URL and can see Their own professor’s commentary
--------------------------------- Professor Smith’s Commentary --------------------------------- Professor Jones’s (Louisville) Commentary --------------------------------- Professor Quentel’s  (Chicago-Kent)  Commentary --------------------------------- Professor McFarland’s Commentary (author of this CALI lesson)
 
 
Lowering the Barriers to  Inter-institutional Distance Legal Education CLOSING REMARKS

If Dle Is The Answer What Is The Question

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    If DLE isthe Answer, What is the Question? John Mayer Executive Director Center for Computer-Assisted Legal Instruction 312-906-5307 [email_address]
  • 2.
    What is DistanceLegal Education? Obvious Videoconference Courses Web courses Media by Mail Less Obvious Co-teaching Guest lecturers Partial DLE DLE “pieces” “ Outside the Box” LE for non-lawyers (for profit?) LE for the public (public service) Expanding Int’l opportunities
  • 3.
    What is DistanceLegal Education? Synchronous Videoconferencing Webcast Chat Conference call Asynchronous Web-based materials Lessons Discussion (threaded, email, etc.) Offline Access Course Design Technology Staffing Costs Scalability Re-use
  • 4.
    Why is DLEInteresting? Learning anytime, anywhere Student-centered learning model Attuned to Net-Gen students Attract or serve previously un-servable students Co-optition (cooperate & compete) New Markets/Revenue … most important
  • 5.
    Why is DLEInteresting? REQUIRES FACULTY AND INSTITUTIONS TO EXAMINE THE LEARNING PROCESS TO
  • 6.
    … but, doesLegal Education need to improve? Too expensive Grads not ready for practice Faculty emphasize scholarship - teaching excellence is not rewarded Exercise: What is Broken in Legal Education? want
  • 7.
    Law is moreimportant than ever Law is more ubiquitous than ever Law is non-violent war Law is friction to business Law is codified morality Law is advocacy’s sharpest tool Law practice is legal education for clients … in short… EVERYONE should be a lawyer!
  • 8.
    Law is moreimportant than ever We didn’t use to question our doctors… We didn’t use to know so much about computers “ Legal Literacy” is the next big global/societal literacy wave
  • 9.
    Why is DLEInteresting?
  • 10.
    Defensive Distance LearningOnline law schools succeeding There are new for-profit law schools in the US that challenge the traditional model of LE Huge unmet demand for legal assistance Huge increases in SRLs and greater demand for A2J
  • 11.
    DLE Compellers Makemoney Not lose money Not lose academic control Altruism Exercise: What is compelling DLE at your school? Exercise: What about DLE is compelling to you?
  • 12.
    Barriers to DLEInstitutional Interest Aversion to Pioneering Technical challenges Finding the markets Administrivia Quality What is everyone else doing?
  • 13.
  • 14.
    Address N xM Problem Web services, tools, databases, surveys, etc. Training – maybe Bring to surface scattered interest Don’t have to start from scratch Applied Research Goals of CODEC: Lowering the Barriers
  • 15.
    Observe Report DisseminateFacilitate Innovate
  • 16.
    Progress Report 48members http:// codec.cali.org Presentations at 6 schools Japan and Europe Peter Martin’s DE on DLE Videoconferencing Survey Classifieds Grades and Calendars ClassCaster
  • 17.
    Videoconferencing Survey 77Responders / October 2004 22% do not use VC 17% use university computing or media services for VC 25% have NO VC facilities at law school 39% have roll-around units 25% have perm-installed seminar room for VC
  • 18.
    Videoconferencing Survey 49%used VC for guest lecturers 40% have used VC for a semester-length course 41% conducted NO course related VC in FY03-04 11% conducted several/week course-related VC sessions 34% used VC for student interviews
  • 19.
    Progress Report 48members http:// codec.cali.org Presentations at 6 schools Japan and Europe Peter Martin’s DE on DLE Videoconferencing Survey Classifieds Grades and Calendars ClassCaster
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    Grades and CalendarsCalendars are a slog and we are slogging Grades need a deft touch and we are looking for consulting help
  • 22.
    ClassCaster New Servicefrom www.classcaster.org Classroom + Podcasting (but this goes way beyond the classroom) Even Luddite Faculty Can Use It experimental
  • 23.
  • 24.
    1. Register atCALI website 2. When class starts, Make a phone call 3. Teach the class 4. Students download to their iPod or listen to the lecture via the web. 5. Faculty downloads and edits For future classes, distance learning, etc.
  • 25.
    2. In class,play back the interview Outside of class, call your interviewee and conference in ClassCaster ClassCaster 3. After class, students can listen to the interview via the web or download to their MP3player
  • 26.
    Audio Legal EducationIdeas Pre-recorded interviews with attorneys in current events cases “Phone in” lectures instead of canceling class Audio exam reviews “Director Commentary” on Law Review Articles Mystery Science Theatre CALI lessons
  • 27.
    This is whereI ended the presentation due to time constraints. The rest is about Classcaster. There is a complete presentation on this in my other conference session.
  • 28.
    Faculty goes toCALI website and runs CALI lesson in “Classcaster” mode 2. Faculty records commentary by phone or directly into PC with USB microphone 3. Faculty gets unique URL and sends it to students or posts to class website 4. Student runs CALI lessons from that URL and can see Their own professor’s commentary
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    --------------------------------- Professor Smith’sCommentary --------------------------------- Professor Jones’s (Louisville) Commentary --------------------------------- Professor Quentel’s (Chicago-Kent) Commentary --------------------------------- Professor McFarland’s Commentary (author of this CALI lesson)
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    Lowering the Barriersto Inter-institutional Distance Legal Education CLOSING REMARKS