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Your Reference:
Our Reference:
D/DAS/64/3/12
Date:
21 March 2005

I am writing concerning your letter dated 18 January, which we received in this office on the 26
January 2005. Sorry for the long delay in getting back to you.
You may wish to be aware that there is already some information about UFOs available for public
viewing. MOD files on UFOs were routinely destroyed after 5 years until 1967 when they were
generally preserved for The National Archives. A few have survived before 1967 and these
together with records up to 1977 are now available for viewing. The National Archives can be
contacted at Ruskin Avenue, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU or telephone, 020 8876 3444.
The National Archives also have a website giving information about the records they hold and
how to access them. This can be found on the internet at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk. The
Ministry of Defence Freedom of Information Publication Scheme also contains documents
relating to the well known events in Rendlesham Forest, Suffolk in 1980 and the final report of
the Flying Saucer Working Party in 1951. These can be accessed via the internet at
http://www.foi.mod.uk. A search in the Scheme under 'UFO' will take you to this information.
I made a search for any information of the Black flying triangle sighting on the 23 March 1997,
and have found that we have no documentation relating to that alleged incident on our files.
Also, I have made a search through all the UFO related files from the year 2002 up to the present
date, and have found no sightings of flying triangles you requested for the areas of Cardiff,
Derbyshire, Bonnybridge and the North Sea.
As to other areas of the UK where triangles have been seen, I have found a few reports on our files
and they are as follows:23 October 2002, 07:04, Woodbridge, Suffolk. Large silver triangle- which then changed shape.
Was clouded in a pink and green haze.
19 December 2002, 06:30, Chaldon, Surrey. Very bright object, with an orange/yellow triangle
behind it.

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29 January 2003, 18:15, Wolverhampton, West Midlands.
perfect syncronisation. Low humming noise.

Two triangular objects, flying in

5 May 2003, 18:30, Area not given. Saw a black triangle flying quite fast and silently through the
sky in a single direction.
8 July 2003, 20:00, Hereford, Herefordshire. A stationary triangular object was seen. The object
remained stationary for about 30 minutes at quite a height.
18 September 2003, 03:00, Wimbledon, London. Triangular object- copper coloured. Hovered
over the house for a minute, then disappeared.
9 January 2004, 14:00, Market Harborough, Leicestershire. One large black triangular aircraft
with three bright lights in a triangle formation. There was a rumbling sound.
28 July 2004, No time given, Lynton nr Exmoor, Devon. The object looked like a big white
triangle on the horizon.
Hope these will be of help.
Yours sincerely

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Your Reference
Our Reference
D/DAS/64/312
Date
4 November 2004

Dear
I am writing with reference to your letter dated 21st August, which was received in this office on
the 14th September 2004.
In your letter you refer to an alleged 'UFO' encounter with HMS MANCHESTER as investigated
by Lord Hill- Norton. I can confirm that Lord Hill-Norton wrote to the MOD in October 2002 to
request that HMS MANCHESTER'S ship log be scrutinised for any references to unidentified
aerial craft sighted by the ship's company during the periods 26 October to November 1998 and
8 February to 3 March 1999. No such references were found in any of the log entries which were
NCHESTER'S log covering the period 1 February until
available. Unfortunately, HMS ~·
sunrise on 13 February 1999 was 1 t d 'ng a deployment in Bodo, Norway. The log was
positioned, as is the custom, at the h · of the gangway when the vessel was alongside in port,
and an unusually strong gust of wind carried it overboard. The circumstances are properly
recorded and certified by HMS MANCHESTER'S Commanding Officer in the log opened on
13 February, following this loss. In light ofthe missing document, the Commanding Officer of
HMS MANCHESTER at the time was contacted and stated that nothing which could be remotely
construed as an unusual event or sighting involving unidentified aerial craft occurred during this
or any other ofHMS MANCHESTER'S deployments while he was in command.
You also request copies of "soil sample test results and any radiation readings collected from the
two landing sites" at Rendlesham Forest. Copies of the documents we hold on this incident were
sent to you in September 2001 and can now also be found in the MOD Freedom of Information
Publication Scheme at www.foi.mod.uk. We know of no evidence of any other documents
relating to this alleged incident.
Finally, the rest of your letter refers to UFO sightings in the US and Canada. Clearly these are
matters for your own Government, not the UK.
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Your Reference
Our Reference
D/DAS/64/3112
Date
23 January 2003

Dear
I am writing with reference to your letter of 31 December 2002.
First, you requested a copy of the Ministry of Defence papers relating to the alleged 'UFO'
sighting in Rendlesham Forest, Suffolk in 1980. A copy of these papers were sent to you with my
letter of 10 September 2001. At that time three papers were withheld under Exemption 2 of the
Code of Practice on Access to Government Information (the Code), but these were later released
following an investigation by the Parliamentary Ombudsman and were sent to you on
25 July 2002. These documents have also now been included in the MOD Freedom of
Information Publication Scheme which can be found on the internet at www. fo j • mod . u k. A
search under Rendlesham Forest will take you directly to the documents or a search under UFO
will find all the classes of information on UFOs included in the Scheme.
With regard to your request for "the radar tracking records from RAF Neatishead and RAF
Fylingdales", this department does not hold this data, as it is kept at RAF Neatishead and RAF
Fylingdales, but you may wish to be aware that data derived from air defence phased array radars
such as those accessed by RAF Neatishead is electronically recorded and held for only 30 days
before disposal. Similarly, tracking data from RAF Fylingdales radar is recorded onto magnetic
tape and is held for up to four weeks. As the data is held in electronic form, it would be of little
use to you without the appropriate software to translate it into a readable form or the necessary
expertise to interpret it. In both cases, the information is classified as it reflects the capabilities of
the respective systems and if requested it is unlikely to be released.
Finally, you said you were "interested in flying triangles over RAF Cornwall'', you may wish to
note that there is no such RAF Station.

Yours sincerely,

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DAS-LA-Ops+Pol1

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DAS-LA-Ops+Pol1
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FW: UFO Request for Information

As we discussed, it is not entirely clear
after precisely. Data derived from air defence phased
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array radars such as those accessed by
Similarly, tracking data from the Fylingdales radar is recorded onto magnetic tape and is held for up to about 4
weeks. In both cases the information is classified as it reflects the capabilities of the respective systems and,
therefcore, would not be releasable. Furthermore, because the data is held in electronic form, it would be of little
value to anyone without the appropriate software to translate it into a readable form.
Hope this helps!

From:
DAS-LA-Ops+Pol1
Sent:
Friday, January 17,2003 10:43:38 AM
To:
DAO ADGE1
Subject:
UFO Request for Information
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As discussed earlier,
has requested " .. the radar tracking records
from RAF Neatishead and RAF Fylingdales phased radar tracking stations".
I would be grateful for a few lines to give him on this. I received his letter on 13th
January, so will need to send a reply by the 31st January.
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Your Reference
Our Reference
D/DAS/64/3/12
Date
2 August 2002

I am writing concerning your recent letter in which you asked for information about an alleged
"UFO flap over central London, seven years ago". We are not aware of any such incident and are
unable therefore to provide the information you are seeking.
You also asked about "slow moving triangular craft moving over the North Sea and along the
coastline". This request has already been addressed in our previous correspondence.
Finally, I am unable to comment on the remainder of your letter as these are matters for the US,
not UK, authorities.
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Your Reference
Our Reference
D/DAS/64/3/12
Date
25 July 2002

Dear
Further to our letter of 10 September 2001, I am writing concerning three documents from the
MOD file on the alleged sighting of an 'Unidentified Flying Object' near Rendlesham Forest,
Suffolk, which were withheld from you under Exemption 2 of the Code of Practice on Access to
Government Information (the Code).
There has recently been an investigation by the Parliamentary Ombudsman into the decision to
withhold these documents and the Ombudsman has concluded that the three documents do fall
under the scope of Exemption 2. However, in the particular circumstances of this case he
recommended that the documents should nonetheless be provided to the individual who made the
~complaint, and MOD has accepted this.
The MOD also agreed to supply the documents to all those from whom they had previously been
withheld and they are therefore enclosed for your information. Some have been anonymised in
accordance with the Data Protection Act 1998.

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to-reach this office at the time shown on the front cover.
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"alien beings" nor was any unidentified object seen on any
radar recordings, as alleged in the News of the World.

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of the News or the World Article concluded that a possible
explanation for the lights seen by the USAF personnel was the
pulsating light of the Orfordness lighthouse some 6 - ? miles
away.
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whether they reveal anything of defence interest (eg intruding
aircraft).

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at which we are satisfied that a report has no defence
implications.

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the likely explanation

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individual reports.

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the Earl Clancarty, said that he would look into the possibility
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US of S(AF) will recall recent corresponde~ce on this matter
with Lord Hill-Norton and Rt Hon Merlyn Rees MP. In both cases he
took the line that we have nothing to add to what had already been
said on the Woodbridge incident. Indeed, this was the line taken in
previous correspondence with David Alton (See M3). The enclosed
draft reply to Mr Alton once more follows this approach.
2.
Mr.,.,lton ecifically requested a copy of the MOD official
s
reply to
last letter. This is enclosed, together with ar.
earlier le er to which it refers. There is no objection to passing
this correspondence to Mr Alton.
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You may wish to note that Mr Alton has apparently passed or.
both letters sent by Lord Trefgarne on 19 March 85, even though one
of these was intended to be for his information or.ly.

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Thank you for your letter of 16 May to Michael Heseltine
enclosing one from

You asked to see a copy of the

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letter of 25 February 1985 and this

· is enclosed, together with earlier correspondence to which it refers.

As I pointed out in my letter of 19 March, the MOD concerns
' itself only with the defence implications of reported UFO sightings.
In this context, the report submitted by Col Halt in January 1981 was
,examined by those in the Department responsible for such matters and,
as I have made clear in the past, it was considered to have no
defence signifi?ance.

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·and there is nothing I can usefully add to the comments made in
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I enclose a letter I have received from
following on
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letter wlth great interf:st and it seems to me that
the points he raises ·are quite reasonable and merit a reply,
I should be most grateful if you could let me have
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and if you could let me se~~a copy of the reply ta
letter to yo~r Department dated 25th February 1985.

David Alton., MP.
The Rt. Hon. Michael Heseltine., MP.
Secretary of State
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David Alton, Esq., HP,
House of Commons,
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Dear Mr. Alton,
has kept me informed about her correspondence with you on the unusual incidents which were reported to the Ministry
of Defence by USAF authorities at RAF Woodbridge in January 1981. I have also
seen Lord Trefgarne's letters to you of 19th March.
ecided to write further to you about this puzzling
and disquieting case, an she referred to me her enclosed letter of 31st March,
which is addressed to you, in the hope that I might be able to add useful comments. Much to my regret I have had to spend much time out of London on other
business~ and it is only now that I am able, very belatedly, to
send on lllllllllllllllletter to you.
My own background, , in brief, is that I served .. in the Ministry of
Defence from 1949 to 1977, leaving in the grade of Under Secretary of State.
From 1969 to late in 1972 I headed a Division in the central staffs of the ~!OD
which had responsibilities for supporting RAF operations. This brought me into
touch with a proportion of the many reports which the Department receives about
unidentified traces in British airspace.
I believe that
is right to remain very dissatisfied
with the official line
s adopted on the Rendlesham Forest incidents of Decembe~ 1980. I have
said so on a number of public occasions,
and I have pursued the matter in correspondence with the MOD - wholly without
success.
At the risk of burdening you with an excessive amount of paper, I
attach the most recent of my letters to the Ministry of Defence. You will see
that this is dated 25th February 1985. I have so far received no answer, despite
reminders. On a previous occasion it took the Department three and a half months
to send me a wholly perfunctory reply.
laims much collateral evidence for her own views; on
this I am not competent to comment. My own position is, quite simply, that an
extraordinary report was made to the Ministry of D~fence by the Deputy Base
Commander at RAF Woodbridge early in 1981; that the very existence of this report
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I cannot accept Lord Trefgarne's view that there is no Defence
interest in this case. Unless Lt.Col. Halt was out of his mind, there is clear
evidence in his report that British airspace and territory were intruded upon .
by an unidentified vehicle on two occasions in late December 1980 and that no
' authority was able to prevent this. If, on the other hand, Halt's report cannot_ .
be believed, there is equally clear evidence of a serious misjudgement of events_
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case can hardly be without Defence significance. ·
The dates in question are now rather remote, but I doubt that
this should be taken to excuse the very perfunctory manner in which Lord
Trefgarne has dealt with your letter. I hope that you may feel able to
pursue the matter further, either in correspondence or in a ·PQ. The essence
of the questions to b~ms to me to lie in my preceding paragraph.
Seen in these terms, ~article in the GUARDIAN (which Lord
Trefgarne rather surprisingly falls back upon) is wholly irrelevant. If the
USAF really are capable of hallucinations induced by a lighthouse wh~ch must
surely be very familiar to them, then I shudder for that po~erful finger
which lies upon so many triggers ...

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My own letter to the MOD (enclosed) raises other more detailed
questions. But I do not suggest tllat you should necessarily concern yourself
with them, anyway at this stage. It would be nice if the MOD would answer
letters, of course ! But the'essence of the Defence interest which I suggest
a responsible Member of Parliament might reasonably raise lies in the argument
I have tried to present above.
If I can be of any assistance in discussion with you, I am at
your disposal.
Yours sincerely,

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From:
Directorate of Air Staff (lower Airspace)

MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
WC2N SBP
Telephone

(Direct dial)
(Switchboard)
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020 7218 2140

Your Reference
Our Reference
D/DAS/64/3/12
Date
10 July 2002

I am writing with reference to your letter of 17 June in which you requested records of 'UFO'
sightings received from Cornwall in 1996.
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:We have looked at the material we hold for this period to see what may be made available.
: 1996 was a particularly busy year for both reports and correspondence concerning 'UFOs' and
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i narrowed your previous requests, to one year, we estimate it would still take in excess of30 hours
,to thoroughly examine all the files, copy any relevant papers found, and remove all the personal .
'details. However, the Ministry of Defence is bound by the Code of Practice on Access to
' Government Information and we are committed to providing you with the information you
·require, as long as it is not exempted under the Code. In order to assist you we are able to
!undertake a more limited search of up to 12 hours and within this period we believe that we could
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search the sighting report files. These files contain reports received via RAF Stations, Police
,Stations and telephone calls made to this office and generally follow a standard format.
If you would like us to conduct a search of these files, I must inform you that we have a charging
regime to ensure that this work does not create an extra burden on the UK taxpayer. The first four
hours work would be conducted free of charge, but each hour over the four hours (or part thereof)
is charged at £15 per hour. This means that your request would attract a charge of £120. If you
would like us to conduct this search on your behalf, please do not send any money at this stage,
but I would be grateful for confirmation that you are willing to meet this charge.
I hope this is helpful.

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D/DAS 64/3/12
5 July 2002
DAS-LA-AD
(through DAS-LA-Ops+Pol)

REQUEST FOR INFORMATION UNDER THE CODE OF PRACTICE ON ACCESS
TO GOVERNMENT INFORMATION
1.
is a persistent correspondent who makes regular, often vague, requests for
information. He lives in the USA and makes these requests quoting the FOIA although he has
been told on a number of occasions that we operate under the Code.
2.
We have refused several of his previous requests under Exemption 9 ofthe Code
(Voluminous or Vexatious) and (in accordance with the Code) have told him if he could
narrow his request we would consider what we could make available. He has now narrowed
his request to UFO sightings in Cornwall in 1996 (including flying triangles, Alternate Space
Craft (ASC), chevrons, Boomerangs and saucers).
3.
1996 was a particularly busy year for reports and there are four UFO Report files and
six Correspondence files. An estimate ofthe time it would take to manually search these files
assuming two minutes per enclosure is as follows;
Report files= 4 files X 100 enclosures X 2 minutes =800 minutes (13 hrs 20 mins)
Correspondence files= 6 files X 100 enclosures X 2 minutes= 1200 minutes (20 hrs)
Total estimate to complete task= 33 hours 20 minutes
4.
Clearly, 33 hours is outside the 12 hours which we would normally consider to be a
this request under
reasonable amount of work undertaken and on this basis
Exemption 9 ofthe Code. However, we have already sent
a list of sighting
reports for 1996 which gives dates and locations and we could use this to identify relevant
reports on the four Report files. It may not be as thorough as examining every report but it
would considerably cut down the time taken to extract the relevant information from the
Report files to maybe 20-30 minutes.
5.
With regard to the six Correspondence files, there is no way of identifying any letters
from Cornwall without manually going through the files and this could take up to 20 hours.
6.
In summary, even if we search the Report files as described in para 4 this request is still
going to take in excess of 20 hours to complete and this is eight hours more work than we
would normally agree to undertake. Nevertheless, I am reluctant to refuse this request under
Exemption 9 because we have already refused a number of his requests for being voluminous
and have asked him to narrow them. He has now narrowed it to one year and one specific area

and it is difficult to see how he could narrow it any more. In fact, if we did refuse and it went
to appeal I think Info(Exp) might think we are being unreasonable.
7.
I propose that we
that he has chosen a particularly busy year for
UFO reports and correspondence
for the information would take more hours than
we have the capacity to accommodate within the 20 days set out in the Code. However, we are
prepared to undertake the work over an extended period (maybe 2 months). He would have to
agree to pay for the search at the normal rate of£ 15 per hour of which the first four hours
would be free, leaving a total of 16 hours 30 minutes to pay at £255 (unless you think we
should charge him less because we are not supplying
within 20 days).
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in the US, I have made enquiries with
about whether we can
accept fees in Dollars. He believes the MOD does have a Dollar vote, but has aske~
check this.
8.
I would be grateful for your views on my proposal. In order to answer this request
within 15 working days, I will need to send a reply by 11 July.

UFO SIGHTINGS REPORTS 1996-1999
DATE

LOCATION

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SUTION, SURREY
REDRUTH, CORNWALL
BRIGHTON
OSTERLEY PARK, EALING
NEWTON COMMON, BERKSHIRE
ALDRIDGE, WEST MIDLANDS
STOURPORT, WORCESTERSHIRE
STOURPORT, WORCESTERSHIRE
GIFFORD, EAST LOTHIAN
HUDDERSFIELD
BEAULY,NRINVERNESS
BRENTWOOD, ESSEX
TOTNES,DEVON
BIRMINGHAM
BIRMINGHAM
EVESHAM, WORCS
STALYBRIDGE, STOCKPORT
FRODSHAM, CHESHIRE
MIDDLE MILL, S.W. WALES

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OLDHAM
WALTON ON THAMES, SURREY
MARKET HARBOROUGH, NORTHANTS
PITLESSIE, FIFE
MILFORD, SURREY
CLYDEBANK, GLASGOW
HAMILTONSBAWN, N. IRELAND
SOUTHPORT, LANCASHIRE
ULLAPOOL, NW HIGHLANDS
GLASGOW
ELTON, CHESHIRE
WEST WYCOMBE, BUCKINGHAMSHIRE
HOUGHTON, SUNDERLAND
INVERNESS
SALE, GREATER MANCHESTER
BIRMINGHAM
STOCKTON ON TEES, CLEVELAND
KENDAL, CUMBRIA
CWMBRAN, GWENT
STRETFORD,MANCHESTER
ALTRINCHAM, NR MANCHESTER
CALDICOT, GWENT
LITTLE DUNMOW, ESSEX
STOURBRIDGE, WEST MIDLANDS
MAIDSTONE, KENT
WALSALL, WEST MIDLANDS
LEALHOLM, YORKSHIRE
LINKS VIEW, NORTHAMPTON

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DAGENHAM,ESSEX
EDGBASTON, BIRMIGHAM
CORRIE, ISLE OF ARRAN
PORTHCAWL, WEST GLAMORGAN
GOOLE, YORKSHIRE
ELGIN, MORAYSHIRE
GLASGOW
GOUROCK,STRATHCYLDE
IRVINE, STRATHCYLDE
AYR,STRATHCYLDE
KENDAL, CUMBRIA
DUNBLANE, CENTRAL FIFE
LEWISHAM, SOUTH LONDON
CASTLE BROMWICH, WEST MIDLANDS
WAKEFIELD, YORKSHIRE
WALTHAMSTOW, LONDON
CHADWELL ST MARY, ESSEX
SWINDERBY, LINCOLNSHIRE
MIDDLETON
LIVERPOOL
HERNE BAY, KENT
INVERGORDON, MORAYSHIRE
GATWICK, WEST SUSSEX
PENICUIK, NR EDINBURGH
WOOTTON, BEDFORDSHIRE
MILTON KEYNES, BEDFORDSHIRE
ELGIN, MORAYSHIRE
BARNOLDSWICK, LANCASHIRE
RAFTRICK, WEST YORKSHIRE
INVERNESS
PEEBLES, NR EDINBURGH
EDINBURGH
ABERDEEN
REDDITCH, WORCESTERSHIRE
EDINBURGH
EDINBURGH
ABERYSTWYTH, WEST WALES
LEOMINSTER, HEREFORD & WORCS
INVERNESS
INVERNESS
CALEY MARINA, INVERNESS
WARLEY, WEST MIDLANDS
TAUNTON, DEVON
MERSEYSIDE
CLACTON-ON-SEA, ESSEX
RAMSGATE, KENT
RAMSGATE,KENT
DUNDONNEL, NW HIGHLANDS
FERRYDEN, TAYSIDE, SCOTLAND
BLAIRGOWRIE, TAYSIDE, SCOTLAND
WALTHAM ABBEY, HERTFORDSHIRE
PITCAIRNGREEN, PERTH

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BURNT ISLAND, FIFE

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WEST KILBRIDE, STRATHCYLDE
WEST KILBRIDE, STRATHCYLDE
SOURPORT ON SEVERN, WEST MIDLANDS
LAPWORTH, WARWICKSHIRE
RYDE, ISLE OF WIGHT
ABERDEEN
HIGH WYCOMBE, BUCKINGHAMSHIRE
BROXBOURNE, HERTFORDSHIRE
BATHGATE, NR EDINBURGH
COUPAR ANGUS, NR DUNDEE
OVER M50, HEREFORD & WORCS
POWYS, WALES
CLACTON ON SEA, ESSEX
SADDLEWROTH, NR MANCHESTER
PELSAW, WALSALL, WEST MIDLANDS
KINGSTANDING, BIRMINGHAM
NETLEY ABBEY, SOUTHAMPTON
GLASGOW
WIMBLEDON, SW LONDON
KENDAL, CUMBRIA
HAYWARD
WARLEY, WEST MIDLANDS
CRAWLEY, WEST SUSSEX
PORTHCAWL, SOUTH GLAMORGAN
BANBURY, NR OXFORD
KINGSTANDING, BIRMINGHAM
ST HELENS, MERSEYSIDE
BLACKPOOL, LANCASHIRE
FALKIRK
EDINBURGH
LICHFIELD, STAFFORDSHIRE
THORNABY ON TEES, CLEVELAND
REDDISH, MANCHESTER
ULVERSTON, CUMBRIA
GORING BY SEA, WEST SUSSEX

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BRIGHTON, SUSSEX
KINGSTON ST MICHAEL, CHIPPENHAM
LLANAYSUL, DYFED
PRESTWICK, AYR
REORUTH, CORNWALL
REDRUTH, CORNWALL
PRESTWICK, AYR
BARBICAN, LONDON
EDINBURGH
EAST MIDLANDS AIRPORT
CRICKLEWOOD, LONDON
BINFIELD, BERKSHIRE
NORTH BERWICK, EAST LOTHIAN
LIVERPOOL
FORMBY, LIVERPOOL
THE WIRRALL, LIVERPOOL
FALMOUTH, CORNWALL
ADDLESTONE,SURREY

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EPSOM, SURREY
ELGIN, SCOTLAND
FALKIRK, SCOTLAND
TAMWORTH, NR BIRMINGHAM
MANCHESTER
GREENOCK, NR GLASGOW
OLDHAM, CHESHIRE
WARWICK, WARWICKSHIRE
BLACKWOOD, GWENT
STRATFORD, LONDON
ROCHESTER, KENT
MINEHEAD, SOMERSET
MIDDLETON, NR MANCHESTER
ALBOURNE, WEST SUSSEX
IPSWICH, SUFFOLK
WOOLTON, LIVERPOOL
CARDIFF, WALES
ACTON, LONDON
NR SWINDON, WILTSHIRE
SADDLEWORTH, CHESHIRE

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ALNESS, GLASGOW
SW EDINBURGH
EDINBURGH
ERSKINE BRIDGE, GLASGOW
GLASGOW
GLASGOW
DAVIOT, NR INVERNESS
GREENOCK, GLASGOW
FORT WILLIAM
ACHARACLE, NR FORT WILLIAM
GARVE, KYLE OF LOCH ALSH
NEAR RAF LOSSIEMOUTH
GLENROTHES, FIFE
MACCLESFIELD, CHESHIRE
AUCHINLECK, NR AYR
HELSBY, LIVERPOOL
CAERNARFON,GWYNEDD
BARNSLEY, SOUTH YORKSHIRE
NORWICH, NORFOLK
DUNDEE
GRAVESEND, KENT
ODIHAM, NR BASINGSTOKE, HANTS
TROON,AYR
HAWICK, NR EDINBURGH
MERTHYR TYDFIL
STEVENAGE, HERTFORDSHIRE
CARDIFF, WALES
OXFORD, OXFORDSHIRE
EASTBOURNE, EAST SUSSEX
COLCHESTER, ESSEX
THAMES DITTON, SW LONDON
RAINHAM, ESSEX

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TINTAGEL, CORNWALL
HOLLYWELL, CLEWYD
HUNTINGDON, CAMBRIDGESHIRE
BEXLEYHEATH,KENT
WORTHING, WEST SUSSEX
GLASGOW
BARCALDINE NR OBAN
PORTSMOUTH, HAMPSHIRE
LINLITHGOW, NR EDINBURGH
TENBURY WELLS, HEREFORD & WORCS
KILSYTH, GLASGOW

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KIRKCALDY, FIFE
COLTISHALL, NORFOLK
BOOTLE, LIVERPOOL
BARROW-IN-FURNESS, CUMBRIA
TOTTENHAM,NORTHLONDON
ISLINGTON, LONDON
GRANTHAM, LINCOLNSHIRE
BURNAGE, MANCHESTER
ST IVES, CORNWALL
HOVE, WEST SUSSEX
SLEAFORD, LINCOLNSHIRE
ELLESMERE PORT, SOUTH WIRRAL
CROYDON, SURREY
FARNLEY, LEEDS
SEVERN BRIDGE, NR BRISTOL
HERN HILL, LONDON
PUDSEY, LEEDS
PUCKERIDGE, HERTFORDSHIRE
BRISTOL
WHARTON, CHESHIRE
WHARTON, CHESHIRE
AYR, AYRSHIRE
MANCHESTER
BIRMINGHAM, WEST MIDLANDS
BRISTOL
MELKSHAM, WILTSHIRE
BRISTOL
BRENTWOOD, ESSEX
BRIGHTON, WEST SUSSEX
ABBERLEY, WORCESTER
BURY, LANCASHIRE
CLACKET LANE SERVICES, M25
STEYNING, WEST SUSSEX

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FETCHAM,SURREY
DREGHORN, AYRSHIRE
CHESSINGTON, SURREY
RUISLIP, MIDDLESEX
CALNE, NR SWINDON, WILTSHIRE
HARROW, MIDDLESEX

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SWINDON, WILTSHIRE
STAMFORD, LINCOLNSHIRE
DOVER, KENT
STEYNING, WEST SUSSEX
CHELTENHAM,GLOUCESTERSHIRE
NORWICH, NORFOLK
DOVER, KENT
PONTYPRIDD, SOUTH WALES
DYCE,ABERDEEN
KENSAL RISE, NW LONDON
BRISTOL
WELLINGBOROUGH, NR NORTHAMPTON
METHIL, FIFE
PETTSWOOD, KENT
ARMADALE, WEST LOTHIAN
LIVINGSTONE, WEST LOTHIAN
SUTTON SCOTNEY, WILTSHIRE
PORTHCAWL, SOUTH WALES
MARLBOROUGH, WILTSHIRE
PERRY COMMON, BIRMINGHAM
ABRIDGE, ESSEX
HURSTPIERPOINT, WEST SUSSEX
LEVEN, FIFE
OSWESTRY, SHROPSHIRE
REDHILL, SURREY
BRISTOL
CHINGFORD, ESSEX
GREAT BARDFIELD
BIRKDALE, SOUTHPORT
LEVEN, FIFE
WIDNES, CHESHIRE
STEWARTON, CLYDE
BOGNOR REGIS, WEST SUSSEX
WEYBRIDGE, SURREY
BURNTWOOD, STAFFORDSHIRE
DOLWYDDELAN, GWYNEDD
PLYMOUTH, DEVON
URMSTON,MANCHESTER
RHYL, CLWYD
DISS, NORFOLK
DIGMOOR, SKELMERSDALE
STRATHMIGLO, FIFE
AVELEY,ESSEX
CAERNAFON, NORTH WALES
HUNGERFORD, BERKSHIRE
SLAIDBURN, LANCASHIRE
CHIPPENHAM, WILTSHIRE
GREAT MOULTON, NORWICH
HINCKLEY, LEICESTERSHIRE
NORTH HYKEHAM, LINCOLN
BRISTOL
STOCKPORT, CHESHIRE
WILLERBY, HULL
AMERSHAM, BUCKINGHAMSHIRE
POTTERS BAR, HERTFORDSHIRE

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STAINES, MIDDLESEX
CHRISTCHURCH, HAMPSHIRE
TILBURY, ESSEX
TWICKENHAM, SURREY
GLENCARSE, NR PERTH
BURY, LANCASHIRE
BRADFIELD, MILTON KEYNES
EASTLEIGH, HAMPSHIRE
PITNEY, SOMERSET
CHORLEY, LANCASHIRE
WEYBRIDGE, SURREY
INVERNESS
FALMER, WEST SUSSEX
CHEDWORTH, GLOUCESTERSHIRE
WEYBRIDGE, SURREY
WEYBRIDGE, SURREY
NEWTON, NR PRESTON
NORTHWOOD, MIDDLESEX
NORTHWOOD, MIDDLESEX
GUILDFORD, SURREY
UXBRIDGE, MIDDLESEX
HAYES, MIDDLESEX
HOVE, SUSSEX
ALTON BARNES, WILTSHIRE
PORTSMOUTH

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HAYES, MIDDLESEX
PAISLEY, SCOTLAND
WILMSLOW, SOUTH MANCHESTER
ACOMB, YORKSHIRE
WEST MIDLANDS
MORDEN, LONDON
NEASDEN,NORTHLONDON
WINNERSH, NR READING, BERKSHIRE
STONEFIELD, OXFORDSHIRE
GUILDFORD, SURREY
STOKE ON TRENT
BURNLEY, LANCASHIRE
WHITBY, NORTH YORKSHIRE
CENTRAL LONDON
ANGLESEY, WALES
MOLD, WALES
MOLD, WALES
BRISTOL
COMRIE, NR PERTH
BANBURY,OXON
PRESTWICH, NR MANCHESTER
STRATFORD, LONDON
GREAT CHESTERFORD, NR CAMBRIDGE
INVERNESS
READING, BERKSHIRE
EDGEWARE, LONDON
SAFFRON WALDEN, ESSEX
COLLIERS WOOD, LONDON
FLEETWOOD, LANCASHIRE

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CASTOR, PETERBOROUGH
KIDDERMINSTER, WORCESTERSHIRE
KINGS STANDING, BIRMINGHAM
KINGOODIE, WEST DUNDEE
NORWICH, NORFOLK
HAYWARDS HEATH, SUSSEX
GRAYS, ESSEX
PAIGNTON, DEVON
SOUTH NORMANTON, DERBYSHIRE
POSTWICK, NORWICH
MANCHESTER
DUNMURRY,BELFAST
LEYTONSTONE, EAST LONDON
BIRMINGHAM
BIRMINGHAM
SWINTON, MANCHESTER
HALL GREEN, BIRMINGHAM
BORDON, HAMPSHIRE
KIDDERMINSTER, WORCS
DAGENHAM,ESSEX
SOUTHGATE, LONDON
LIVERSEDGE, NR LEEDS
LONDON, W12
LONG BUCKBY, NR NORTHAMPTON
HIGH WYCOMBE, BUCKINGHAMSHIRE
WALTHAMSTOW, LONDON
BOOTLE, LIVERPOOL
OLDHAM
BRIDGEND, SOUTH WALES
WOLVERHAMPTON, MIDLANDS
BOOTLE, LIVERPOOL
ERITH, KENT
CENTRAL LONDON
TIPTON, WEST MIDLANDS
POYNTON, NR STOCKPORT
TURNERS HILL, WEST SUSSEX
WESTON SUPER MARE, AVON
IVYBRIDGE, DEVON
HULL
HELSTON, CORNWALL
CANNON PARK, COVENTRY
CENTRAL LONDON
CAIRNBULG POINT, NR ABERDEEN
EDINBURGH
DUNDEE
RHUDDLAN, CLWYD
GLASGOW
ALLANTON, NR GLASGOW

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TUNBRIDGE WELLS, KENT
MID GLAMORGAN, WALES
NORTH LONDON
WEST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND

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STOURBRIDGE, WEST MIDLANDS
BIRSTALL, WEST YORKSHIRE
BISHOPBRIGGS, GLASGOW
LIVERPOOL
SWINDON, WILTSHIRE
KIDLINGTON, NR OXFORD
ASHFORD, MIDDLESEX
BRISTOL
KENMORE, TAYSIDE
MID-GLAMORGAN, WALES
INGATESTONE, ESSEX
BILLERICAY, ESSEX
CAPEL, SURREY
MILTON KEYNES
SHOEBURYNESS,ESSEX
BURNTISLAND, FIFE
PORT TALBOT, SOUTH WALES
BIRDSALL, WEST YORKSHIRE
SOUTHAMPTON, HAMPSHIRE
PLYMOUTH, DEVON
COLCHESTER, ESSEX
RAMSBOTIOM, LANCASHIRE
ISLEWORTH, MIDDLESEX
BLACKBURN, LANCASHIRE
BIRMINGHAM
INVERGOWRIE, DUNDEE
BADMINTON, WILTSHIRE
ECCLESHALL,STAFFORD
MELTON MOWBRAY
BURY, LANCASHIRE
THE WIRRAL, MERSEYSIDE
TURNHAM GREEN, LONDON
ST IVES, CAMBRIDGESHIRE
BLACKBURN, LANCASHIRE
TROXTETH, LIVERPOOL
SUTTON GOLDFIELD
AYR, SCOTLAND
OLDFIELD PARK, BATH
TUNBRIDGE WELLS, KENT
HAYLE, CORNWALL
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MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
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Your Reference
Our Reference
D/DAS/64/3/12
Date
29 May 2002

Dear
I am writing with reference to your letter of 17 May addressed to the Civil Aviation Authority.
The staff at the CAA were not aware from your letter that you were requesting a copy of an
airmiss report and as I deal with UFO correspondence, they referred your letter to me. I have,
however, obtained a copy of the airmiss report for 6 January 1995 and this is enclosed for your
information.
•I hope this is helpful.

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AJRMISS REPORT No 2/95
Date/Time: 061848 Jan

Position:

N5318 W0200 (8NM SE
Manchester Apt)
Class: A

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Reporting Aircraft
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PART A: SUMMARY OF INFORMATION REPORTED TO JAS
THE B737 PILOT reports that he was over the Pennines, about 8 or 9 NM SE of Manchester Airport, at 4000
ft, while being radar vectored by Manchester radar on 119.4. He was flying at 180-210 kt on aN heading and
squawking 5734 with Mode C selected. Although it was dark, visibility was over 10 km with a fairly strong
NW wind (340/30). While flying just above the tops of some ragged Cu both he and the first officer saw a
lighted (see JAS notes) object fly down the RH side of the ac at high speed from the opposite direction. He
was able to track. the object through the RH windscreen and side window, having it in sight for a total of about
2 seconds. There was no apparent sound or wake. The first officer instinctively 'ducked' as it went by.
The first officer reports that his attention, initially focused on the glare shield in front of him, was diverted to
something in his peripheral vision. He looked up in time to see a dark object pass down the right hand side of
the ac at high speed; it was wedge-shaped with what could have been a black stripe down the side. He
estimated the object's size as somewhere between that of a light ac and a Jetstream, though he emphasises that
heard or wake felt. He
this is pure speculation. It made no attempt to deviate from its course and no sound
felt certain that what he saw was a solid object - not a bird, balloon or kite.

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MANCHESTER ATC reports that the B737 was being radar vectored from Dayne to the ILS for RW 24 when
the pilot reported a lighted object passing close by above and in the opposite direction. There was no known
traffic in the vicinity at the time and no radar contacts were seen.
JAS Note (1): Telephone conversations subsequently took place with both the captain and the first officer.
The captain remained convinced that the object was itself lit. Although he could not determine a definite
pattern, he described it as having a number of small white lights, rather like a Christmas tree. He confirmed the
high speed of the object, and though unable to estimate its distance, said he felt it was very close. Following
the incident, the captain and first officer independently drew what they had seen, both agreeing about the shape
but differing in their opinions about the lighting aspects. The first officer felt that the object was illuminated
by their landing lights, which at that stage were switched on. He was unable to assess its distance, other than to
say that he involuntarily 'ducked', so it must have appeared to him to have been very close. He was entirely
convinced, as was the captain, that what they had seen was a solid object and not a Met phenomenon, balloon,
or any other craft with which they were familiar, or a Stealth ac, which he had himself seen and which he feels
he would have recognised.
JAS Note (2): Despite exhaustive investigations the reported object remains untraced. A replay of the Clee
radar shows a number of secondary contacts, including the subject B737, being radar sequenced in the
Manchester TMA and zone. The B737 tracks over two almost stationary primary contacts just N ofLcc:k on a
NW heading while descending through FL 70-60. On entering the Manchester TMA, passing FL 50, it is
vectored right onto about 040°, and continues to descend on a NE track along the E boWldary of the

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Manchester TMA to within 0·75NM of the Daventry CTA, where the base of CAS is FL 45 . At this point,
passing 3600 Mode C, the ac is turned onto a L base for RW 24 as part of a busy sequence of inbound ac. At
no time during this downwind leg is any other radar contact seen in the vicinity. An extract from the RT
recording on 119.4, which shows that the B73 7 was given descent clearance to 4000 ft at 1845:30, follows:

From:
B737 (1848)·

"c/s we just had something go down the RHS just above us very fast."

Manchester -

"Well, there's nothing seen on radar. Was iter an ac?"

B737-

"Well, it had lights, it went down the starboard side very quick."

Manchester-

"And above you?"

B737-

"er, just slightly above us, yeah."

Manchester -

"Keep an eye out for something, er, I can't see anything at all at the moment so,er, must
have, er, been very fast or gone down very quickly after it passed you I think."

B737-

"OK. Well, there you go!"

The possibility that the object might have been a hang glider, paraghder or microlight was investigated, but all
the operating authorities, without exception, agreed that this was an extremely unlikely explanation, for various
reasons, but mainly because none of these activities takes place at night. In addition, there are the obvious
hazards of flying in the dark, from high ground (the peaks in this area along the Pennine ridge range from 1600
to over 2000 ft), strong winds, and because these atrcraft are unlit. JAS also explored the possibility of military
activity, but could find no evidence in support of this from any official source. In any case, it seems most
unlikely that such a flight would have been conducted in CAS and so close to a busy international airport.
Because of the B737's prox.imity to uncontrolled airspace to the E of Manchester during the downwind leg,
which covers the airmiss period, the possibility of unknown military or civil activity in the adjacent FIR cannot
be completely discounted. However, the liklihood of such activity escaping detection is remote, as the area is
well served by several radars and any movements at the levels in question would almost certainly have
generated a radar response.

PART B: SUMMARY OF THE WQRKING GROUP'S DISCUSSIONS
Information available to the Working Group included reports from the pilot of the B737, transcripts of the
relevant RT frequencies, a video recording, and reports from the air traffic controllers involved.
The Group were anxious to emphasise that this report, submitted by two responsible airline pilots, was
considered seriously and they wished to commend the pilots for their courage in submitting it, and their
company, whose enlightened attitude made it possible. Reports such as these are often the object of derision,
but the Group hopes that this example will encourage pilots who experience unusual sightings to report them
without fear of ridicule. It was quickly realised by all members that, because of its unusual nature, they could
only theorise on the possibilities once normal avenues of investigation had been explored. There is no doubt
that the pilots both saw an object and that it was of sufficient significance to prompt an airmiss report.
Unfortunately, the nature and identity of this object remains unknown. To speculate about extra-terrestrial
activity, fascinating though it may be, is not within the Group's remit and must be left to those whose interest
lies in that field. It is probably true to say, however, that almost all unusual sightings can be attributed to a
wide range of well known natural phenomena. There are, of course, a few which defy explanation and thus
fuel the imagination of those who are convinced that there is "something going on" out there. Usually activity
of this kind is accompanied by a rash of ground sightings in the same geographic area; in this case, as far as is
known, there were no other reports and therefore the incident has to be reviewed in isolation, with no other
witnesses. The resources nonnally available when investigating ainnisses are pilots' reports, corroborated by
radar and RT recordings. Often these will provide all the clues necessary, but in this case there is no "reported
pilot", and radar recordings do not show any unknown contacts. The Jack of a radar contact is not necessarily
unusual if weather suppressors arc in usc on the radar, particularly if the object generates a poor radar
rc;,pon;,e.

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therefore disregards it. Enquiries into military activity did not reveal any ac in the area at the time, and it was
considered inconceivable that such activity would take place so close to a busy airport without some sort of
prior notification. Members put forward other suggestions, such as a large model aircraft or a commercially
operated remotely controlled craft, such as those which are used for survey or photographic work. Considering
the prevaihng conditions - darkness, high ground, strong NW wind, and the proximity of a major international
airport -the Group felt that this kind of activity, together with the hang glider/microlight theory, could not be
regarded as a realistic possibility. As was pointed out by one member, however, the ex:treme actions of a
foolhardy individual cannot be entirely ruled out and there remains, therefore, the possibility that someone,
perhaps in a microlight ac (which most accurately fits the shape described), had defied the conditions and got
airborne. Further talks with the microlighl experts on this idea highlighted its extreme improbability; the
strong wind, terrain and darkness would have rendered such a flight almost suicidal.
Having debated the various hypotheses at length the Group concluded that, in the absence of any firm evidence
which could identify or explain this object, it was not possible to assess either the cause or the risk by any of
the nonnal criteria applicable to airmiss reports. The incident therefore remains unresolved.

PART C: ASSESSMENT OF RISK AND CAUSE
Degree ofRisk:

Unassessable
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21 May 2002
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REQUEST FOR UFO RELATED MATERIAL

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USA. I
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placed to respond to his request. I have copied this letter to

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Directorate of Air Staff (lower Airspace)

MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
WC2N SBP
Telephone

(Direct dial)
(Switchboard)
(Fax)
(GTN)

020 7218 2140

Your Reference
Our Reference
D!DAS/64!3112
Date
W'April 2002

I am writing with reference to your letters of 7 March and 16 April, in which you have made a
number of requests for information about 'unidentified flying object' reports made to the Ministry
of Defence.
I note that some of the information you requested has either already been sent or addressed in my
previous letters. Where this is the case, to avoid repeating this information, I will refer you to the
relevant letter.
The information you requested is as follows;

1.
A search ofall ground radar installations and copies of any underwater UFO sightings
teportsform 1980 to 2000
Ground radar are used for surveillance of airspace and do not detect objects underwater.

2.

Documents concerning triangular flying objects from 1990 to 1996.

Please see paragraph 3 of my letter of 14 January 2002.

3.

Any UFO retrievals of extra-terrestrial space craft.

Please see paragraph 6 of my letter of 10 September 2001.

4.

RAF Fylingdales phased array radar ttackingsfrom 1990 to 1996.

Please see paragraph 3 of my letter of 10 September 2001.

_5.

UFO sighting reports from RAF Pilots.

You have not specified any particular period. As you will be aware from previous
correspondence, we hold files covering a 30 year period and we do not have the resources to
search all of them. If, therefore, you wish to pursue this request you would need to specify a more
limited period and we could then look at what material could be made available.

Copies of "Sir Norton Hills UFO sightings 1980 Bentwaters RAFIUSAF UFO landing
trace evidents test results and radiation readings from the Rendlesham Forest site".
6.

The papers that have been release on the Rendlesham Forest incident were sent to you with my
letter of 10 September 2001. We have no evidence of any test results or radiation readings being
sent to the MOD. With regard to your comment about "Sir Norton Hills UFO sightings", I
assume you are referring to Admiral of the Fleet The Lord Hill-Norton CB KCB. Although Lord
Hill-Norton has had a long standing personal interest in 'UFO' matters, he was not directly
involved with the Rendlesham Forest incident and there are therefore no sighting reports from
him regarding this case.

All UFO flying saucer reports over nuclear storage bunkers, nuclear power plants, hydroelectric dams, gas turbines and RAF bases.
7.

Please see paragraph 3 of my letter of 14 January 2002.

8.

Undenvater UFOs seen by Naval vessels.

Please see paragraph 10 of my letter of 9 July 2001.

9.

RAF Vulcan pilots sightings of triangular flying objects at 30,000 feet.

You have not specified a particular period of interest. The RAF operated Vulcan aircraft in the
bomber role until 30 December 1982 and as tanker aircraft until 31 April 1984. After this there
were a few used for air display purposes, but the last of these was taken out of use in 1991.
10.

5th

January, Derbyshire- report of UFO hovering over a house.

We have received no reports from Derbyshire for 5th January 2002.
11.

New triangular UFO reports 2000 and slow moving or hovering objects 2000 to 2001.

A list of all of our UFO sighting reports from January 2000 to December 2001 was sent to you
with my letter of 3 December 2001. If you wish us to conduct a search to identify particular
reports in the categories that you have indicated we have a charging regime as detailed in
paragraph 2 of my letter of28 February 2002. In this instance we would need to examine 391
reports, copy and sanitise them to remove the personal details of those who have corresponded
with the MOD. We estimate that this would take 13 hours to complete. Four hours would be
conducted free of charge, leaving 9 hours which at £15 an hour, would attract a charge of£ 13 5.
If you would like us to conduct this work on your behalf I would be grateful for your
confirmation that you are willing to meet this charge. I note in your letter of 7 March you say you
have enclosed $100 for reproduction of documents, however this was not in the envelope with
your letter. Please do not send any money at this stage as the fee detailed above is an estimate
only and may change when we examine the files. We will, of course, inform you if the actual fee
is likely to be significantly higher than our estimate.

-12.
4 October 2001 9.30am- Transparent flying saucer hovers over nuclear power plant in
London, England, 15, 000 feet altitude.
We received no reports of this alleged incident.

13.
7 November 2001 Norwich -Reports of a large flying triangle blotting out stars followed
closely by an F 15 escort, no noise from triangle.
We received no reports of this alleged incident.

14. 5 January 1995 North-easterly, 4000feet, 819 nautical miles south-east ofManchester,
England Triangular yellow glowing objected reported
Without recalling all the files for 1995 from archives and examining them, we can not be sure
whether we received any reports for 5 January 1995. However, we are aware of an airmiss which
was reported by two British Airways pilots on an aircraft travelling to Manchester Airport on
6 January 1995 and this may be the incident which you are referring to here. As a matter of
routine the MOD was notified by the CAA about the pilots' report shortly after the incident
occurred. At the time the matter was discussed with Departmental air defence experts who
confirmed that they were not aware of anything which would indicate a matter of defence
relevance associated with the sighting. Furthermore there was no evidence to suggest that the
UK's air defence had been compromised. As is usual with airmiss incidents involving civil
aircraft, the CAA Joint Airmiss Working Party (which is a joint Civil/Military body which has
complete access to all sources of civil and military information available) investigated the pilots'
report. The Group were not able to determine precisely what the pilots saw, but ruled out any
military aircraft activity. However there was no suggestion in the report that what the pilots
observed was extraterrestrial in origin. Without any evidence to suggest that the incident was of
defence relevance MOD interest in this sighting has long since concluded. If you require any
further information about this incident you should write to the Civil Aviation Authority, CAA
House, 45-54 Kingsway, London WC2B 6TE.

15.
Copies of a letter from Churchill discussing UFOs, and Sir Norton Hills letter to UN
regarding UFOs and alien encounters over naval ships and aircraft carriers while on
manoeuvres, Operation Mainbrace 1965.
Any surviving papers that have been released on these matters will be open for public inspection
at the Public Record Office at the following address:
The Public Record Office
Ruskin Avenue
Kew
Richmond
Surrey
TW94DU
Tel: 020 8876 3444
Fax: 020 8878 8905

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16.

Copy of a NATO SHAPE study entitled "The Assessment" about UFOs.

We do not hold NATO SHAPE documents but you may wish to contact the following;
The NATO Archives
NATO
B-110
Brussels
Belguim

17.

Any available UFO photographs.

Members of the public occasionally send us photographs of objects they have seen in the sky
which they can not identify. Once it is established that they are not of defence significance they
are either placed on our files with the relevant correspondence or, if request, returned to the
individual concerned. It is impossible to identify which files might contain photographs without
a complete search of all our files.

18.
Flying triangles that move slowly over the North Sea and along the coastline over
England 1986-1989.
As you will be aware from our previous correspondence, the reports we receive are filed manually
in the order in which we receive them. They are not computerised and the only way to identify
any in the categories you have stipulated is for staff to search through all the reports for the whole
four year period. In this case there are 12 files which cover this period and each may hold up to
100 enclosures meaning that approximately 1200 documents would need to be scrutinised. Any
relevant reports found would then need to be sanitised to remove all the personal details of those
who have reported these sightings, in order to protect their confidentiality. We estimate that this
work would take in excess of 40 hours to complete. We do not have the resources to undertake
such a task and I therefore regret that your request is refused under Exemption 9 of the Code of
Practice on Access to Government Information (voluminous or vexatious request). If however,
you were to submit a new request which would involve a more limited search of the archive, I
should be happy to consider what information we could make available.
If you are unhappy about the decision to refuse your request and wish to appeal, you should write
to the Ministry ofDefence, Directorate oflnformation (Exploitation), Room 819B, St GilesCourt,
1-13 St Giles High Street, London WC2H 8LD requesting that the decision be reviewed. If
following the internal review you remain dissatisfied, you can ask a Member of Parliament to
take up the case with the Parliamentary Commissioner for Administration (the Ombudsman) who
can investigate on your behalf The Ombudsman will not, however, consider an investigation
until the internal review process has been completed.

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19.
Finally, you mentioned two alleged UFO sightings in the UK. One on 15 February 2002
over Bewl Water and Bedgebury Forest. The other on 3 March 2002 over southern Englandfrom
Cornwall to Poole.
We received no reports of these alleged incidents.

I hope this is helpful.
Yours sincerely,

•

LOOSE MINUTE

D/DAS 64/3/12
30 April2002
D

REFUSAL OF REQUEST FOR INFORMATION UNDER THE CODE OF PRACTICE
ON ACCESS TO GOVERNMENT INFORMATION
1.
is a persistent correspondent who makes frequent requests for information
under the Freedom oflnformation Act. I have told him that we operate under the Code.
2.
In one of his latest two letters (which I have answered together) he has asked for copies
of reports of flying triangles that move slowly over the North Sea and along the coastline over
England from 1986-1989. The only way we can supply this information is to search through
all our files for the whole four year period. This amounts to 12 files, with possibly 100
enclosures each, therefore 1200 enclosures. If we allow two minutes to examine each
enclosure, copy and sanitise any relevant documents found, this request would take 40 hours to
complete. I propose that we refuse this request under Exemption 9 of the Code ofPractice on
Access to Government Information (voluminous or vexatious) request. As any refusals have
to be cleared at AD level I would be grateful for your approval of this action.
3.
I attach a draft of my letter to
request is marked on his letter of 16
attach the file
vVllLCI.l ,lll

in reply to his two letters. The above
...,.t;o...-,.ri to in paragraph 18 of my reply. I also
previous correspondence for information.

FILE NOTE

Information gathered f o r - r e q u e s t for information -letters of
7 March and 16 April2002.
No.9 RAF Vulans- Air Historical Branch confirmed that Vulcan aircraft operated as
Bombers until30.12.1982 and as Tankers until 31.4.1984. There were a few still in
service after this date which were used for air displays but the last of these was taken
out of use in 1991.
No.l6 NATO document- Info(Exp)Records confirm there is a NATO Archive that
hold copies of all NATO documents produced. Address given.

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