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How CRO affects SEO: How to increase your conversions whilst keeping
—or even enhancing—your SEO rankings.
Q&A
1
2
3
Strategic and tactical mistakes that Moz and Conversion Rate Experts
have made and seen.
Rand Fishkin, Wizard of Moz
Conversion Mistakes
—and how CRO affects SEO
Dr Karl Blanks, Chairman
Rand Fishkin, Wizard of Moz | @randfish | rand@moz.com
How CRO Affects SEO
(and how marketers should be combining the two practices)
How to think about and
design for search visitors
vs. conversion funnel
Landing Pages?
Pages for SEO / Content Marketing
Designed to satisfy
searchers’ queries
Intentionally built to earn
links, shares, & engagement
CTA is non-existent
Pages in the Conversion Funnel
Built to convert
Don’t necessarily need to
target search keywords
Don’t need to be shared,
linked-to, or amplified
Pages that Do Both
Need to both rank and
convert
Must be amplification-
worthy, but also have a
clear path to conversion
Usually leverage the
authority the host
domain has built
Or can they live in
harmony?
Does CRO Mess
Up SEO?
Over-Simplified Google Algo
KW CQ DA UD SPPA
Ranking
Ability
+ + + + + =
Keyword&
On-Page
Content
Quality
Domain
Authority
Page
Authority
User&
UsageData
Spam
Analysis
Changesmadetopages
forCROusuallyonlyaffectthesethree
Over-Simplified Google Algo
KW CQ DA UD SPPA
Ranking
Ability
+ + + + + =
Keyword&
On-Page
Content
Quality
Domain
Authority
Page
Authority
User&
UsageData
Spam
Analysis
And,ifyourconversionrateisrising,
theimpactto thesetwoispositive!
Over-Simplified Google Algo
KW CQ DA UD SPPA
Ranking
Ability
+ + + + + =
Keyword&
On-Page
Content
Quality
Domain
Authority
Page
Authority
User&
UsageData
Spam
Analysis
Thatjustleaveskeywordtargeting,
whichisprettystraightforward
Via Rand’s Visual Guide to Keyword Targeting & On-Page Optimization
There’s no CRO requirement I’ve ever
seen that interferes w/ getting
keyword-targeting (AKA smart use of
terms in the title, URL, & headline) right
Rand Fishkin, Wizard of Moz | @randfish | rand@moz.com
How CRO Affects SEO
Go Make Some Awesome SEO & CRO Happen!
Rand Fishkin, Wizard of Moz
Conversion Mistakes
—and how CRO affects SEO
Dr Karl Blanks, Chairman
About
Conversion Rate Experts
How we became
“conversion obsessed”
Google took notice
Clients in 9 languages in 22 countries
Our resultsOur clients
Mistake #1
The 海外携帯 problem
“kaigai keitai”
Mistake #2
The Cinema-Foyer Effect
Sensitivity analysis
The problem
Nothing you do makes a difference.
It can be on a page. Or on a type of test (e.g. testimonials). Or on a
page element.
1
2
3
All of your tests are inconclusive. None win—or lose.
You are pulling on a lever that isn’t connected to anything.4
The Cinema-Foyer Effect
The Cinema-Foyer Effect
Be aware that you may be“barking up the wrong tree.”
E.g, ask customers when/where the“persuasive content”was.
1
2
3
Identify where/when the conversion is really happening.
The cinema foyer effect
Mistake #3
Returning customers can cause noise
2 Ran a test: it didn’t reach significance.
Ran the test with“new customers”as the goal. 114% more new
customers.3
Repeat
customers
New
customers
Existing customers can cause noise
Landing page for health supplements.1
Mistake #4
Not havingADAon the project
Not having ADA on the project
Authority = The person whose permission must be sought.
Ability = Can do the work (or controls those who can).
1
2
3
Duty = Neck’s on the line.
Mistake #5
Switching to the beauty track
Why beauty kills web businesses
+20%
Conversion  rate  (%)  
Time  
Func4onal  
designs   Beau4ful  
designs  
Q&A
Conversion Rate Experts
Moz
Start the free 30-day trial: www.moz.com
Annual revenue $1M+?
Get a free phone consultation: www.conversion-rate-experts.com/contact-us/
Work for us:
www.conversion-rate-experts.com/careers/
Get your free CRO toolkit:
www.conversion-rate-experts.com/learning-zone/

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  • 2. What you’ll get from this talk How CRO affects SEO: How to increase your conversions whilst keeping —or even enhancing—your SEO rankings. Q&A 1 2 3 Strategic and tactical mistakes that Moz and Conversion Rate Experts have made and seen.
  • 3. Rand Fishkin, Wizard of Moz Conversion Mistakes —and how CRO affects SEO Dr Karl Blanks, Chairman
  • 4. Rand Fishkin, Wizard of Moz | @randfish | rand@moz.com How CRO Affects SEO (and how marketers should be combining the two practices)
  • 5. How to think about and design for search visitors vs. conversion funnel Landing Pages?
  • 6. Pages for SEO / Content Marketing Designed to satisfy searchers’ queries Intentionally built to earn links, shares, & engagement CTA is non-existent
  • 7. Pages in the Conversion Funnel Built to convert Don’t necessarily need to target search keywords Don’t need to be shared, linked-to, or amplified
  • 8. Pages that Do Both Need to both rank and convert Must be amplification- worthy, but also have a clear path to conversion Usually leverage the authority the host domain has built
  • 9. Or can they live in harmony? Does CRO Mess Up SEO?
  • 10. Over-Simplified Google Algo KW CQ DA UD SPPA Ranking Ability + + + + + = Keyword& On-Page Content Quality Domain Authority Page Authority User& UsageData Spam Analysis Changesmadetopages forCROusuallyonlyaffectthesethree
  • 11. Over-Simplified Google Algo KW CQ DA UD SPPA Ranking Ability + + + + + = Keyword& On-Page Content Quality Domain Authority Page Authority User& UsageData Spam Analysis And,ifyourconversionrateisrising, theimpactto thesetwoispositive!
  • 12. Over-Simplified Google Algo KW CQ DA UD SPPA Ranking Ability + + + + + = Keyword& On-Page Content Quality Domain Authority Page Authority User& UsageData Spam Analysis Thatjustleaveskeywordtargeting, whichisprettystraightforward
  • 13. Via Rand’s Visual Guide to Keyword Targeting & On-Page Optimization There’s no CRO requirement I’ve ever seen that interferes w/ getting keyword-targeting (AKA smart use of terms in the title, URL, & headline) right
  • 14. Rand Fishkin, Wizard of Moz | @randfish | rand@moz.com How CRO Affects SEO Go Make Some Awesome SEO & CRO Happen!
  • 15. Rand Fishkin, Wizard of Moz Conversion Mistakes —and how CRO affects SEO Dr Karl Blanks, Chairman
  • 19. Clients in 9 languages in 22 countries
  • 21. Mistake #1 The 海外携帯 problem “kaigai keitai”
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  • 27. The problem Nothing you do makes a difference. It can be on a page. Or on a type of test (e.g. testimonials). Or on a page element. 1 2 3 All of your tests are inconclusive. None win—or lose. You are pulling on a lever that isn’t connected to anything.4
  • 29. The Cinema-Foyer Effect Be aware that you may be“barking up the wrong tree.” E.g, ask customers when/where the“persuasive content”was. 1 2 3 Identify where/when the conversion is really happening.
  • 30. The cinema foyer effect
  • 32. 2 Ran a test: it didn’t reach significance. Ran the test with“new customers”as the goal. 114% more new customers.3 Repeat customers New customers Existing customers can cause noise Landing page for health supplements.1
  • 34. Not having ADA on the project Authority = The person whose permission must be sought. Ability = Can do the work (or controls those who can). 1 2 3 Duty = Neck’s on the line.
  • 35. Mistake #5 Switching to the beauty track
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  • 43. Why beauty kills web businesses +20% Conversion  rate  (%)   Time   Func4onal   designs   Beau4ful   designs  
  • 44. Q&A
  • 45. Conversion Rate Experts Moz Start the free 30-day trial: www.moz.com Annual revenue $1M+? Get a free phone consultation: www.conversion-rate-experts.com/contact-us/ Work for us: www.conversion-rate-experts.com/careers/ Get your free CRO toolkit: www.conversion-rate-experts.com/learning-zone/