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Breaking Bad News (BBN) 
of IVF Failure 
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Dr. Sharda Jain 
Dr. Jyoti Agarwal 
Dr. Jyoti Bhaskar
Breaking Bad News (BBN) 
of IVF Failure 
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IVF Failure 
is no joke !! 
IVF team faces 
Every day this big blow 
& do not know 
How to handle this ?
Doctor, Why Did My IVF 
Cycle Fail ? 
• IVF failure causes a 
lot of distress 
Both for patient and 
doctors 
• Lots of questions 
• No clear answers
Most Female Patients Blame 
Themselves ! 
• Did the IVF cycle fail 
because I did 
something wrong ? 
• Exercise ? 
• Diet ? 
• Stress ? 
• There is drastically wrong with my body 
rejecting the embryo all the time ? ?
Please Talk to Your Patient 
• Please do not abandon 
your patient ! 
They need you the most 
at this time ! As 1st IVF 
cycles is invariably a 
“TEST CYCLE” 
& 
You only have the solution
Please Talk to Your Patient 
•IVF Failure is biggest Bomb shell 
• Repeated IVF failure requires very careful 
handling 
• After an IVF failure, patients 
are very EMOTIONALLY 
UNSTABLE. 
• Can be ANGRY with the doctor 
• BLAME you for the failure
Please Talk to Your Patient 
• The biggest problem is 
that Doctors do not 
want to talk to 
patients when the 
cycle fails, 
• They are 
uncomfortable in BBN 
as they are not trained 
in 4 walls of medical 
college
INFORMED CONSENT 
Is to be taken seriously 
o It is vital for gynaecologists to fully understand 
the importance of first counseling & 
o Explain success rate of clinic as Compared to 
International figures 
Video Recording 
(if smelling problems !!)
INFORMED CONSENT 
• It is important to give extra 10 minutes 
time 
• Counseling must be done by sr. Doctor 
beside the regular counselor, as it goes 
long way to accept failure … 
• 80%, failure is anticipated 
• In 20% it s totally unexpected & it drains 
your energy.
Role of IVF Team 
After an IVF failure 
•Be empathetic 
•Be honest 
• Tell the Truth 
with compassion 
Don’t hide any thing 
Speak less in 1st session
THE ROLE OF THE PRIMARY 
CARE GYNECOLOGISTS 
• If You are the patient’s primary care doctor 
you can counsel them too. 
• You Have a very important role to play ! 
• Review the IVF medical records available 
with the patient 
• Check embryo photos ! 
But all this is possible if you yourself know A-Z 
of IVF cycles protocols & infer the Results
Critical Analysis of 
Previous Cycle by IVF team 
•What went right ? 
•What went wrong ? 
•What have we learnt ? 
• Do we need to change the protocol next 
time ? 
•What do we exactly ? 
Keys of Success after IVF failure
Troubleshooting : IVF clinic 
• Clinic staff behavior … if objectionable 
• Superovulation protocol 
• Ovarian response 
• Endometrial thickness and texture 
• Embryo transfer – 
* Technical difficulty ? 
* Day of Transfer
Troubleshooting : LAB issue 
• Lab Rating & Quality control 
measures 
• Fertilisation rate 
• Embryo quality in given cycle 
• How did other patients on the 
same day do ? – IVF count come !!
The only good embryo 
which becomes a baby ! 
•We can grade 
embryos, but we 
still cannot 
predict which 
embryo will 
become a baby ! 
Good Quality Embryos ?
Please give photos of the embryos to the 
patient as one picture is better than 
thousand words. 
• Every patient should insist on 
these photos 
• It is Documentary evidence of 
the quality of embryos 
transferred 
• Whether you transferred Good 
quality embryos for ET ?
Additional techniques do help 
to improve success rate in IVF. 
• Blastocyst 
• laser hatching 
• Coculture 
• Newer tools - Embryo – “omics” 
• Better genetic technology 
* PGD / PGS – Array CGH – 
Good Quality Embryos ?
Many Tests Available 
• Expensive 
• Clinical utility not well defined 
• Not validated 
• Often lead to more confusion 
Good Quality Embryos ?
Pressure on the doctor to test 
– and treat 
• Endometrial function testing ( integrins) - ? 
• Endometrial receptivity assay ( ERA) - Yes 
• TB PCR - Must 
• Immune testing (TNF a , NK cells and immune 
therapy) 
• Sperm DNA fragmentation 
• Metroplasty ( to “improve” uterine capacity) ???
Best to Tell The Truth ! 
• Human reproduction is very complex 
• Often, the truthful correct answer is not 
available – team does not know why the 
cycle failed. 
• Over treatment - To be avoided at all 
cost
Realistic expectations are 
needed - patients 
• Please set realistic expectations for 
your patients before the cycle starts 
• Prepare them for failure !
Realistic Expectation 
are needed by IVF Team too !! 
• Often, just need to be patient to achieve 
success 
• Success in new IVF Centre is a slow 
process 
• Hard work , wisdom to stay on , Teamwork 
is the key
Guaranteed Pregnancy Programs 
• Help to reduce patient anxiety in IVF – ICSI 
cycles . The patient knows that the doctor’s 
interests and the patient’s interests are 
aligned 
• Reduces financial risk 
• Helps the doctor Team to learn from 
each cycle ! 
Pay for 2 & 3rd is free (USA)
What can we change ? 
•Eggs 
•Sperm 
•Uterus 
•Clinic
Eggs - too few eggs 
( poor ovarian response) 
–Superovulation protocol 
• Long, Short, Antagonist 
• Conventional IVF 
• Mild ( mini-stimulation) 
–Supplements 
• DHEA, antioxidants etc. 
–Donor eggs/ Donor embryos
Eggs – too many eggs ( PCOD) 
• Gentler superovulation 
• Metformin 
• Myoinositol
Sperm 
• ICSI ( in cases of total 
fertilisation failure , when IVF 
was done in previous cycles)
Sperm 
• Abnormal sperm do not cause abnormal 
embryos ! 
• Sperm FISH and sperm DNA 
fragmentation tests are of Questionable 
use , due to lack of therapy 
• Teratozoospermia is only very very 
rarely a cause of fertilisation failure after 
ICSI ( globozoospermia)
SPERM 
• Frozen testicular sperm for ICSI 
has a lower success rate 
because many of these sperm 
are immotile. 
• It’s best to use fresh testicular 
sperm
Difficult Embryo Transfer ? 
• Under general anesthesia ? 
• On Conscious anesthetist 
• Under ultrasound guidance ? 
• Change the catheter set ? 
Ultrasound guided 
ET is routine with us
Uterus 
• Vaginal ultrasound scan to 
evaluate uterine lining 
• Routine Hysteroscopy is ??? 
Most probably hysteroscopy will 
be normal if ultrasound scan is 
normal & saline infusion 
Sonography (SIS) is ok
Thin uterine lining 
• Vitrify all embryos and then do a frozen 
thaw cycle 
• Add Estrogen, Sildenifil citrate, pentoxifine 
• Endometrial injury to induce improve blood 
flow 
• Intrauterine perfusion of GCSF 
( granulocyte colony stimulating factor) 
given on Day of Trigger 
• Surrogacy
Clinic 
• Refer the patient to another clinic 
• Can be helpful – second opinion, 
other team with a different 
perspective ! 
Lifecare IVF & Surrogacy centre Brig. R. K sharma
Information & more information 
Therapy : is Vital to IVF Patients 
• Patients need to have realistic expectations 
! This will help both you and the patient 
cope better with failure, when this occurs 
• Prepare for Plan B ! 
• IVF can be a roller coaster ride & need to 
relax upto 3 months of pregnancy 
psychological counselors – can do the 
great job.
Be kind ! 
• Your patients are very emotionally 
unstable at this time 
• IVF is often their last hope 
• When IVF fails, it’s a big blow to couple 
• Please talk & Console woman 
• Help them to cope with this rough patch 
of their life. 
Integrity of team, Faith in the team 
& Peace of mind is all that needed
Support Patients Groups 
• Experienced patients with initial 
failure can help others ! 
• This can be therapeutic 
• Encourage patients to talk to 
each other 
• Peer support can be very helpful 
(our Experience)
Doctors too need 
Supporting IVF groups !! 
Brig R.K. Sharma 
Dr. Sushma Ved 
Pear Support can be 
very helpful to mature as IVF experts
“Ending Treatment” 
When to advice patients that 
“Enough is Enough” 
“is an ART” 
Specially in – Repeated Failures, 
Rec. Abortions 
Bad Endometriosis , 
multiple Fibroids destroying Uterus
Useful PRAYER – for both 
Patients and Doctors ! 
“God grant me the serenity to accept 
the things I cannot change; 
The courage to change the things I 
can; 
And the wisdom to know the 
difference”.
ADDRESS 
11 Gagan Vihar , Near Karkari Morh 
Flyover Delhi -51 
CONTACT US 
9650511339 
011-22414049, 
WEBSITE : 
www.lifecarecentre.in 
www.drshardajain.com 
www.lifecareivf.com 
E-MAIL ID 
Sharda.lifecare@gmail.com 
Lifecarecentre21@gmail.com 
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Breaking Bad News (BBN) of IVF Failure simple formulae used by us Lifecare IVF Dr. Sharda jain / Dr. Jyoti Agarwal , Dr. jyoti Bhaskar

  • 1. Breaking Bad News (BBN) of IVF Failure simple formulae used by us Dr. Sharda Jain Dr. Jyoti Agarwal Dr. Jyoti Bhaskar
  • 2. Breaking Bad News (BBN) of IVF Failure simple formulae used by us Review this Lecture at: Slideshare.net :
  • 3. IVF Failure is no joke !! IVF team faces Every day this big blow & do not know How to handle this ?
  • 4. Doctor, Why Did My IVF Cycle Fail ? • IVF failure causes a lot of distress Both for patient and doctors • Lots of questions • No clear answers
  • 5. Most Female Patients Blame Themselves ! • Did the IVF cycle fail because I did something wrong ? • Exercise ? • Diet ? • Stress ? • There is drastically wrong with my body rejecting the embryo all the time ? ?
  • 6. Please Talk to Your Patient • Please do not abandon your patient ! They need you the most at this time ! As 1st IVF cycles is invariably a “TEST CYCLE” & You only have the solution
  • 7. Please Talk to Your Patient •IVF Failure is biggest Bomb shell • Repeated IVF failure requires very careful handling • After an IVF failure, patients are very EMOTIONALLY UNSTABLE. • Can be ANGRY with the doctor • BLAME you for the failure
  • 8. Please Talk to Your Patient • The biggest problem is that Doctors do not want to talk to patients when the cycle fails, • They are uncomfortable in BBN as they are not trained in 4 walls of medical college
  • 9. INFORMED CONSENT Is to be taken seriously o It is vital for gynaecologists to fully understand the importance of first counseling & o Explain success rate of clinic as Compared to International figures Video Recording (if smelling problems !!)
  • 10. INFORMED CONSENT • It is important to give extra 10 minutes time • Counseling must be done by sr. Doctor beside the regular counselor, as it goes long way to accept failure … • 80%, failure is anticipated • In 20% it s totally unexpected & it drains your energy.
  • 11. Role of IVF Team After an IVF failure •Be empathetic •Be honest • Tell the Truth with compassion Don’t hide any thing Speak less in 1st session
  • 12. THE ROLE OF THE PRIMARY CARE GYNECOLOGISTS • If You are the patient’s primary care doctor you can counsel them too. • You Have a very important role to play ! • Review the IVF medical records available with the patient • Check embryo photos ! But all this is possible if you yourself know A-Z of IVF cycles protocols & infer the Results
  • 13. Critical Analysis of Previous Cycle by IVF team •What went right ? •What went wrong ? •What have we learnt ? • Do we need to change the protocol next time ? •What do we exactly ? Keys of Success after IVF failure
  • 14. Troubleshooting : IVF clinic • Clinic staff behavior … if objectionable • Superovulation protocol • Ovarian response • Endometrial thickness and texture • Embryo transfer – * Technical difficulty ? * Day of Transfer
  • 15. Troubleshooting : LAB issue • Lab Rating & Quality control measures • Fertilisation rate • Embryo quality in given cycle • How did other patients on the same day do ? – IVF count come !!
  • 16. The only good embryo which becomes a baby ! •We can grade embryos, but we still cannot predict which embryo will become a baby ! Good Quality Embryos ?
  • 17. Please give photos of the embryos to the patient as one picture is better than thousand words. • Every patient should insist on these photos • It is Documentary evidence of the quality of embryos transferred • Whether you transferred Good quality embryos for ET ?
  • 18. Additional techniques do help to improve success rate in IVF. • Blastocyst • laser hatching • Coculture • Newer tools - Embryo – “omics” • Better genetic technology * PGD / PGS – Array CGH – Good Quality Embryos ?
  • 19. Many Tests Available • Expensive • Clinical utility not well defined • Not validated • Often lead to more confusion Good Quality Embryos ?
  • 20. Pressure on the doctor to test – and treat • Endometrial function testing ( integrins) - ? • Endometrial receptivity assay ( ERA) - Yes • TB PCR - Must • Immune testing (TNF a , NK cells and immune therapy) • Sperm DNA fragmentation • Metroplasty ( to “improve” uterine capacity) ???
  • 21. Best to Tell The Truth ! • Human reproduction is very complex • Often, the truthful correct answer is not available – team does not know why the cycle failed. • Over treatment - To be avoided at all cost
  • 22. Realistic expectations are needed - patients • Please set realistic expectations for your patients before the cycle starts • Prepare them for failure !
  • 23. Realistic Expectation are needed by IVF Team too !! • Often, just need to be patient to achieve success • Success in new IVF Centre is a slow process • Hard work , wisdom to stay on , Teamwork is the key
  • 24. Guaranteed Pregnancy Programs • Help to reduce patient anxiety in IVF – ICSI cycles . The patient knows that the doctor’s interests and the patient’s interests are aligned • Reduces financial risk • Helps the doctor Team to learn from each cycle ! Pay for 2 & 3rd is free (USA)
  • 25. What can we change ? •Eggs •Sperm •Uterus •Clinic
  • 26. Eggs - too few eggs ( poor ovarian response) –Superovulation protocol • Long, Short, Antagonist • Conventional IVF • Mild ( mini-stimulation) –Supplements • DHEA, antioxidants etc. –Donor eggs/ Donor embryos
  • 27. Eggs – too many eggs ( PCOD) • Gentler superovulation • Metformin • Myoinositol
  • 28. Sperm • ICSI ( in cases of total fertilisation failure , when IVF was done in previous cycles)
  • 29. Sperm • Abnormal sperm do not cause abnormal embryos ! • Sperm FISH and sperm DNA fragmentation tests are of Questionable use , due to lack of therapy • Teratozoospermia is only very very rarely a cause of fertilisation failure after ICSI ( globozoospermia)
  • 30. SPERM • Frozen testicular sperm for ICSI has a lower success rate because many of these sperm are immotile. • It’s best to use fresh testicular sperm
  • 31. Difficult Embryo Transfer ? • Under general anesthesia ? • On Conscious anesthetist • Under ultrasound guidance ? • Change the catheter set ? Ultrasound guided ET is routine with us
  • 32. Uterus • Vaginal ultrasound scan to evaluate uterine lining • Routine Hysteroscopy is ??? Most probably hysteroscopy will be normal if ultrasound scan is normal & saline infusion Sonography (SIS) is ok
  • 33. Thin uterine lining • Vitrify all embryos and then do a frozen thaw cycle • Add Estrogen, Sildenifil citrate, pentoxifine • Endometrial injury to induce improve blood flow • Intrauterine perfusion of GCSF ( granulocyte colony stimulating factor) given on Day of Trigger • Surrogacy
  • 34. Clinic • Refer the patient to another clinic • Can be helpful – second opinion, other team with a different perspective ! Lifecare IVF & Surrogacy centre Brig. R. K sharma
  • 35. Information & more information Therapy : is Vital to IVF Patients • Patients need to have realistic expectations ! This will help both you and the patient cope better with failure, when this occurs • Prepare for Plan B ! • IVF can be a roller coaster ride & need to relax upto 3 months of pregnancy psychological counselors – can do the great job.
  • 36. Be kind ! • Your patients are very emotionally unstable at this time • IVF is often their last hope • When IVF fails, it’s a big blow to couple • Please talk & Console woman • Help them to cope with this rough patch of their life. Integrity of team, Faith in the team & Peace of mind is all that needed
  • 37. Support Patients Groups • Experienced patients with initial failure can help others ! • This can be therapeutic • Encourage patients to talk to each other • Peer support can be very helpful (our Experience)
  • 38. Doctors too need Supporting IVF groups !! Brig R.K. Sharma Dr. Sushma Ved Pear Support can be very helpful to mature as IVF experts
  • 39. “Ending Treatment” When to advice patients that “Enough is Enough” “is an ART” Specially in – Repeated Failures, Rec. Abortions Bad Endometriosis , multiple Fibroids destroying Uterus
  • 40. Useful PRAYER – for both Patients and Doctors ! “God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; The courage to change the things I can; And the wisdom to know the difference”.
  • 41. ADDRESS 11 Gagan Vihar , Near Karkari Morh Flyover Delhi -51 CONTACT US 9650511339 011-22414049, WEBSITE : www.lifecarecentre.in www.drshardajain.com www.lifecareivf.com E-MAIL ID Sharda.lifecare@gmail.com Lifecarecentre21@gmail.com info@lifecareivf.com