All Wales Participation Workers Meeting

ALL-WALES PARTICIPATION WORKERS MEETING
Date: Wednesday 21st May 2014
Media Resource Centre (MRC), Oxford Road, Llandrindod Wells, LD1 6AH
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Agenda...................................................................................................................................... Page 2
Overview................................................................................................................................... Page 3
Group Discussion 1: TODAY – THE ROAD TO HERE............................................................. Page 5
Question 1 TODAY: ‘Our missed opportunities and our successes in the last 12 months
– what are they?’
Group Discussion 2: FUTURE................................................................................................ Page 13
Question 2 FUTURE: The All-Wales Participation Workers group working with the Welsh Government
to create the best possible place for children and young people - What does this look like?’
Group Discussion 3: WHAT NEXT? ...................................................................................... Page 19
Question 3 ‘WHAT NEXT?’ What needs to happen so we make the most of this opportunity
to move our work forwards? Support, tools, actions...
Photostory.............................................................................................................................. Page 20
Attendee list............................................................................................................................ Page 21
Appendix................................................................................................................................. Page 22
Contents

10.00am Refreshments for participants
10.30am Introductions, Health and Safety, Apologies
10.45am Eleri Thomas Elin Gwynedd context to day
10.45am - 11.00am Who’s in the room? Getting to know the group icebreakers
Ice-breaker 1 – How long have you…
11.00am - 11.30am Group Discussion 1: TODAY – THE ROAD TO HERE
Question 1 TODAY: ‘Our missed opportunities and our successes in the
last 12 months – what are they?’
11.30am - 12.00pm Group Discussion 2: FUTURE
Question 2 FUTURE: The All-Wales Participation Workers group working
with the Welsh Government to create the best possible place for children
and young people – What does this look like?’
12.00pm - 12.45pm Group Discussion 3: WHAT NEXT?
Question 3: ‘WHAT NEXT?’ What needs to happen so we make the most
of this opportunity to move our work forwards? Support, tools, actions...
12.45pm Morning session ends, lunch.
Agenda

ALL-WALES PARTICIPATION WORKERS MEETING: OVERVIEW
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Discussion 1: TODAY
– THE ROAD TO HERE
Our missed opportunities and
our successes in the last 12
months – what are they?

Larger images of these table-sheets from Discussion 1 are available in the Appendix section of this document, page x.
Question 1 TODAY: ‘Our missed opportunities and our successes in the last 12 months – what are they?’

SUCCESSES
• Rights measure and due regard acceptance of rights
• County Councillors who have come from Youth Forums
• Participation Workers who were in Youth Forums
• Disconnecting Rights from Responsibilities
• Participation Standards ‘Young Inspectors’ Programme
• Young Inspectors, Young Interviewers, Young Ambassadors
• European Local National Involvement
• Flintshire Theatre Forum
• Commitment to Rights (come a long way)
• Participation Under 10s CCFW AMB
• Children Rights unit in N.P.T.
• Young people Involved in Town Council
• Youth Forums
• Annual Youth Conference
• Travelling Ahead
• Respect Fest
• Not Lost Rights Agenda even in the Economic Climate
• Thinking outside the box
• DCC This is usually Denbighshire CC so leave as is pls – get up
listened to re: Welsh Gov. Agenda/Changes
• Pembrokeshire signing up to the UNCRC (United Nations
Convention on the Rights of the Child)
• Successful Youth Forums and Youth Assembly
• Merthyr Tydfil Sustainability Impact Assessment – UNCRC
(United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child) Impact
• Merthyr Tydfil – Participation Priority are within Single Integrated
Plan (SIP) (this is the name for a type of council plan so need
cap on Single)
• Working for 10+ yrs with varying Local Forums to provide a
national voice (Funky Dragon) (Gwen this is a brand name)
• Engage young people in events outside of school eg. Baton
Relay – DCC
• Newport – Mechanism based around children young people’s
structure
• Stat Guidance + UNCRC (United Nations Convention on the
Rights of the Child) Legislation
• Children’s Rights Measure!
• School Councils (initially) *back bone
• Youth Forums - Due to workers !
• Commitment from Staff!
• Funky Dragon
• Young people still want to be involved
• Building young people’s confidence to stand up and to be heard
• Councillor’s Children’s Rights Training
• Human resources creating young people’s interview panel
guidance
• ‘Young Inspector’ Program
• County Councillor Development Day
• Rights Respecting Schools (UNICEF)
• Youth Action Groups Linked to Town Council
• School Council Training
• Running projects on fresh air and favours
• People working well together locally and regionally
• UNCRC Training for Youth Workers Teachers
Discussion 1: TODAY – THE ROAD TO HERE

• Young Trustee Training
• Young Inspectors Team (now on hold) Engaging Young People
in Commissioning
• Participation Unit
• Junior Safeguarding Boards
• Newly trained Youth Inspectors around Social Media CLIC
• Our Rights Project Young people trained and delivering UNCRC
to other YP in schools Y Forums/adults now peer trainers (I think
it its peergroup trainers, ie people their age?)
• Accountability Structures within Powys
• Powys – Participation strategy Action Plans
• Youth Forum
• Pembs signing up to the UNCRC (United Nations Convention on
the Rights of the Child) Children Young People’s Right Office
• Sustainable Structure in Place – more school Councils linked
with Youth Assembly
• Formal Structure’s in place for Participation + the Youth Forum!
• Viewpoint – Consultation around ‘Extending entitlements ’9,000
Young People consulted into used for shaping services for
Young People
This is a 'word cloud' generated to show the words used most frequently in delegates' responses.

MISSED OPPORTUNITIES
• 7 Core Aims?
• Age Universal Policies – ChYPs (Children and Young Peoples)
Lost!
• Single Plan
• National Special interest groups
• N. S. F. (National Service Frameworks)
• Standards – Kitemark
• Education on UNCRC (United Nations Convention on the Rights
of the Child) for all!
• Changes in Funding
• National Network
• Engagement Shot
• Stat Guidance Consequences
• Primary and Secondary School Council Linkage (DCC)
• Extending Entitlement
• National Training Participation
• Blogging like Mumsnet “Does anyone have…”
• Robust Methodology. Skilled Workforce.
• Qualitative and Quantative – can learn from research community
• Separate:- 1) Consultation 2) Self generated issues
• Children’s Rights Scheme – translating to how this impacts
children and young people living in Wales
• Story gathering
• Children and Young People’s Programme trained
• New Participation Strategy
• Map training on UNCRC locally – compare / inform national
• Local – New structure allows for development of Youth Forums
in all comps – companies????– linking to School Council +
FD???????
• More national all Wales meetings update – workers on ground
• Communication within local authorities managers – staff
• Improve + Back the National Standards
• Local authorities merging – opp to embed participation within
new structure’s
• Universal – does this mean across the world or in general?
Children day Nov 21st (calendar of events)
• All LA’s to put what they have done on website CLIC to pick up
all. Activities etc on their website – sharing prac
• Young people can be trained Dual CLIC Standards Youth
Inspector Training
• Link to See / Dyma Fi
• Participation Awards for YIP Linked 2 Standards
• Sharing good practice
• Decision makers recognising how much time YP give
• More young people knowing about whats going on e.g. Myth
Busting
• Uncertainty for young people
• School Councils (selective) * Delivery
• Lost momentum 2011 Participation Strategy not published
• Inconsistency in funding grants
• Communication with teachers
• Local Authority and Welsh Gov. Valuing Participate
• The need for clear and efficient communication links eg. Funky
Dragon – Welsh Government - Forums – Councils

MISSED OPPORTUNITIES
• Advocacy in Health
• Sharing practice – face to face
• Nato Youth Summit in Cardiff
• Review of Rule of Commissioner
• Youth Inspector Kite Marking
• Engagement with NAFW
• CYC (Children and Young Persons Commissioner) @ heart of
Commissioning Process in Cardiff
• Youth Service and Beyond
• UNICEF UK work and N.P.T.
• “Due Regard” missed need for (United Nations Convention on
the Rights of the Child) Education Learning Disability Article 42
• Who’s the Minister for Children?!? Pupil voice in Welsh
Government!!!
• Responsibility Accountability
• ESTYN
• Participation Strategy!
• UNCRC Training (Interprofessional) in Hel’s (Higher Education
Legislation)
• Participation + Voice in PSE Personal and Social Education
(PSE) Curriculum in Wales.
• Changes to Welsh Government personnel?
• Radicalisation of Youth Work Lost
• Where’s the Conceptual Framework? Universal
• Youthwork Strategy – What changed?
• Making time to celebrate! – young people’s achievements -
media – Rights – Top down recognition
• Link engagement + Principles with Participation standards
• Focus on children and young people in Shared Purpose, Shared
Delivery
• Welsh Government E-Learning Module on UNCRC (United
Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child) shared with
Local Authorities
• Designated pots of money to get consistent approach and
quality
• Measuring Impact
• School Council Training
• Nothing happening for VII’s - ?? no idea it’s a number so leave in
and they can proofread
• Pupil voice lost in Welsh Government
• No Guidance
• No updated info

Discussion 2: FUTURE?
The All-Wales Participation
Workers group working with
the Welsh Government to
create the best possible place
for children and young people
- What does this look like?’

to create the best possible place for children and young people – What does this look like?’

• Accountability of Policies
• Two way flow commit picture local – national
• Training – measure. Top Down. Consistent
• W.G need to share their good Practice
• Time to commit to the role… Working with young people
‘Consistency in all authorities ie. Some Local authorities have
fulltime workers’
• Full Commitment from Welsh Government
• Improve Children’s Participation – Nationally. Under 11’s to
young people’s School Councils – Local Authorities – Youth
Forums – Funky Dragon / Children Commissioner – Welsh
Government
• Sustainable Structures
• International Work
• Not a repeat of school councils – there is policy but no checking
accountability
• Include guidance
• Listened to accountability
• Young people group Peer Training for New Group – ASDAN
ANARD – Comprehensive Schools
• Tiered clear Structured training consistency – UNCRC Rights
etc
• Joined up
• Different Graded programme
-- children
-- young people
-- workers – teachers / social workers
-- officers
-- Assembly Members
• Awareness / Mapping Training across Wales
• We have youth forum – but are they – postcode lottery – they
could only be 2 young people
• In a ideal world we wouldn’t need participation workers – it
would be embed in work with children and young people
• How do you want children + young people’s Participation in
Wales to look?
• Every Child
• Pupil Voice – Audit, Quantative Qualitative Evidence – Policy –
not just guidance
• Estyn – are they effective?
• Engaging Young People in Politics! – Lowering the age
• Welsh Gov, Local Gov, Health Board, Local Council, NGO’s/
voluntary sector
Discussion 2: FUTURE?

Discussion 3: WHAT NEXT?
What needs to happen so
we make the most of this
opportunity to move our work
forwards? Support, tools,
actions...

Question 3 ‘WHAT NEXT?’ What needs to happen so we make the most of this opportunity to move
our work forwards? Support, tools, actions...

• Rights Measure – Due Regard – Embedded into Local Authority
Constitution! Across whole Council
• Children rights impact assessment
• Education for all – around rights – all levels need to understand
• Leadership – strong – informed – at all levels
• C+YP need to be involved in the leadership process
• Need to look at the wellbeing of C+YP in order to move forward
• Continued Research (Evidence)
• This will help not hinder!
• Be the change – support
• Inspectorate criteria on the progress + implementation of ‘due
regard’ locally at all levels/services
• Opportunities to celebrate locally + nationally
• Making sure the UNCRC is not lost when commissioning
services – “Tesco running the Youth Service”
• Strengthen pupil voice/school council guidance legislation eg.
School councils linked to Forums + other local structures
• Structures for under 11s
• Participation standards + Kitemarks needs to be coordinated
nationally again + endorsed
• Support + Structures
• Minister for children + young people please
• CRC Support Unit. National + local versions – duty
• Research – what impact is the UNCRC having on C+YP
• WG to visit each LSB to explain their responsibilities under
Annex B
• Robust impact Assessment
• “Sell it” to middle/senior management
• Linking participation + pupil participation
• Build awareness of accredited participation opportunities
(standard package of training)
• Develop national ‘Rights Respecting Schools’ programme. Duty
to deliver. Pri + Sec schools in curriculum, teacher training + link
with youth work
• National Children’s Rights Participation Strategy
• Estyn – inspecting pupil voice + participation properly
• Clear Guidance on what L A have to provide re: participation
• FD was set up to keep WG accountable… is this happening?
Are YP keep WG to account?
• There need to be a structure in place to do this?
• Report on shared purpose shared delivery – never got reprint
Nov 2012 early 2013
• Due regard nationally + locally C+YP challenging ‘Due Regard’ +
(CRIA’s)
• LSB’s held to account
• Updated training
• Feedback - Opportunities, resources as to how YP have made a
difference by giving their opinions including FD.., CC.., WG..
• Quarterly South mtg’s
• Meetings all Wales (annually)
• Standards – inc feedback – workers/up – inc meetings
• Guidance on how to push measures – challenge – CRIA’s,
Accounts
• Cheap venues
• What do we need?
• Parental engagement
Discussion 3: WHAT NEXT?

• Documents that anyone everyone can read!
• Duty of due regard statutory in LA
• National training on children’s rights – professionals, children
young people
• Everyone to buy into it across wales
• Support Structures!
• Direction from WG
• Transparency when creating new policies services etc
• Young people need to be involved at the very start!
• 12 week consultation is fantastic
• Sharing information
• Clear funding commitment
• Participation not getting absorbed by “engagement agenda”
• Campaign change electrol law taught embedded in welsh
culture (start with children)
• Flexibility to change (social media)
• Up to date training resources
• Accountability who’s making sure “true” participation is
happening
• Firm up the citizenship curriculum to ensure that UNCRC is
taught to all young people
• Training for staff elected members. Raising awarness eg.
E-learning
• Decision makers (middle/higher managers) need to understand,
listen change their working practice

Photostory

NAME POST ASSOCIATION
Kath Mattingly Participation Officer CCfW
Eleri Thomas Chief Executive CCfW
Paul Lewis Policy Officer CCfW
Kelly Harris Funky Dragon
Siwan Funky Dragon
Carly Funky Dragon
Kirsten Funky Dragon
Road Safety Conwy County Council
Deborah Job Conwy County Council
Elin Gwynedd WG
Wendy Thomas WG
Carolyn Evans NPT
Mike Mainwaring NPT
Ve Van de Vorde VoG
Bethan Watkins VoG
Clare Jones Caerphilly
Sue Phillips RCT
Nadine Farmer Pembrokeshire
Tammy Pembrokeshire
Zoe Morgan Carms
NAME POST ASSOCIATION
Sarah Powell Carms
Rhian Cook Monmouth
Kerry Griffiths Momouth
Hannah Busicott NPT CRU
Lisanne Saladino Newport
Lee Patterson Cardiff
Katie Spendiff Swansea
Jane Whitmore Swansea
Chris Richards Merthyr
Emma Murphy Flintshire
Ali Thomas Flintshire
Awen Dodd LLais Ni
Katherine Harper Williams LLais Ni
Sherrie Paterson Denbighshire
Tricia Jones Wrexham
Kay Newman Wrexham
Rebecca Unsworth Powys
Janet Bidgood Powys
Stephen Parkinson Powys
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