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In South Korea, Both OWPML and ODF are a Document format standard as a public sector. But, In South Korea's academic field, the public & private sector, It is still using HWP as a document standard. They are still made and distributed in .hwp format. I'm a Full-time worker(Developer) & University student in Korea. This year, I transferred to Korea National Open University, major in Chinese Language & Literature. As a university student, I talk about the inconvenience of using ODF when making documents in Korea. Also, I introduce the activities of the LibreOffice community since 2020 in Korea.
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Slide for LibreOffice Conference 2018 Tirana, describing LibreOffice in Japan, LibreOffice Japanese Community and building a bridge over the "language valley" between Japanese LibreOffice community and the world.
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In South Korea, Both OWPML and ODF are a Document format standard as a public sector. The Republic of Korea government adopted OpenDocument as a part of Korean Industrial Standards KS X ISO/IEC 26300 in 2007.
However, In South Korea's academic field, the public & private sector, It is still using HWP(binary file format) as a document standard. They are still made and distributed in .hwp format. I'm a Full-time worker(Developer) & University student in Korea. This year, I transferred to Korea National Open University, major in Chinese Language & Literature & University student in Korea. As a university student, I talk about the inconvenience of using ODF when making documents in Korea. Also, I introduce the activities of the LibreOffice community since 2020 in Korea.
Last year(2020) and this year(2021) activities, such as participating in NIPA(The National IT Industry Promotion Agency - IT industry promotion organization operated by the Republic of Korea Government)'s open source activity hold programs, supporting Korea-Japan LibreOffice conference by NIPA, and LibreOffice Local Community's activities (such as Hacktoberfest activities).
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In South Korea, Both OWPML and ODF are a Document format standard as a public sector. But, In South Korea's academic field, the public & private sector, It is still using HWP as a document standard. They are still made and distributed in .hwp format. I'm a Full-time worker(Developer) & University student in Korea. This year, I transferred to Korea National Open University, major in Chinese Language & Literature. As a university student, I talk about the inconvenience of using ODF when making documents in Korea. Also, I introduce the activities of the LibreOffice community since 2020 in Korea.
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The talk is for LibreOffice Conference 2015 Aarhus.
Japanese language has two writing mode; horizontal writing (left to right: LTR) and vertical writing (top to bottom; TTB). Nowadays, we, Japanese use mainly horizontal writing mode in office documents, but we still need vertical writing in some situations, such as official letters, diplomas, magazines or novels. Thus, vertical writing mode is less usage but still important functionality for multilingual office suites such as LibreOffice, however, we have observed several defects about vertical writing in LibreOffice. I’ll tell you the typical use-cases of vertical writing with examples, and discuss some issues how they should be fix, or what should be “right”specifications for each cases.
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Status of CJK language support in LibreOffice 2023.pdf
1. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons
Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License.
Status of CJK language support
in LibreOffice 2023
Shinji Enoki
shinji.enoki@libreoffice.org
in COSCUP 2023
2023-07-29
2. 2
Shinji Enoki (榎真治)
● Live in Nishinomiya City, Japan
● Member of LibreOffice Japanese Team (2011-)
● Membership Committee substitute members
of The Document Foundation (2020-)
● Activity: organizing events, building communities,
sometimes Q&A, QA, translate
3. 3
Live in Nishinomiya(西宮), Japan
●
Nishinomiya is Osaka and Kobe in the middle
●
If you're a baseball fan, you might know Koshien
4.
5. This is my 5th COSCUP
●
I joined COSCUP 2018 and 2019, 2021(online), 2022(online)
●
Unfortunately, I am attending another event in Tokyo today
●
Next year I want to join in person if possible
6. 6
Agenda
● About CJK functions of LibreOffice
● Recent CJK issues and episodes (main topics)
● Efforts in the LibreOffice community (main topics)
8. 8
What are CJK issues /bugs
● CJK is an abbreviation for “Chinese-Japanese-Korean”
● Chinese, Japanese, and Korean are different languages, but
they have some common features
13. 13
Differences in rules among CJK
● There are many CJK features that have different
requirements and behavior depending on the language
● The position and shape of commas are different between
Chinese and Japanese.
14. 14
Reference: W3C Requirements documents
● Requirements for Japanese Text Layout
● https:/
/www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/
● “This document describes requirements for general Japanese layout realized with
technologies like CSS, SVG and XSL-FO. ”
●
Requirements for Chinese Text Layout 中文排版需求 (01 July 2023 updated)
● https:/
/www.w3.org/TR/clreq/
● “This document was developed by people working in different areas, using both
Simplified and Traditional Chinese. ”
● Requirements for Hangul Text Layout and Typography
● https:/
/www.w3.org/TR/klreq/
16. Recent CJK issues and episodes
●
Some bug patterns
– Easier to notice when faced with bugs
– Easier to find workarounds
17. 17
Meta issue for CJK
● Bug 83066 : [META] CJK (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and
Vietnamese) language issues
● Meta issue for each CJK language
● Bug 113193 : [META] Traditional Chinese (zh_TW, zh_HK)
● Bug 113194 : [META] Simplified Chinese (zh_CN)
● Bug 113195 : [META] Japanese CJK issues
● Bug 113196 : [META] Korean
Basically, Bug 83066 is used
18. ●
There is a list link in "Depends on"
for easy access
19. 19
Korean word default font size is 10pt. : Bug#155947
● Default font size was 10.5pt for all CJK
● Korean society only defaults to 10pt
● Changed the default font size to 10pt, only for Korean
● Fixed master by DaeHyun Sung
● Need to test if it affects other languages
20. 20
Style Heading level label was gone in
Chinese/Japanese/Korean interfaces :Bug# 153704
● Incorrect display of style heading name in sidebar
● Fixed in 7.5.2/7.6.0 by Khaled Hosny
21. 21
Crash in Writer when using Japanese Hiragana input method
and shortcut Ctrl+Alt+C to insert a new comment while there
is uncommitted text: Bug#152404
● Crash when pressing Ctrl+Alt+C while typing CJK language
● Fixed in 7.5.1/7.4.5 by Patrick Luby, Caolán McNamara
● Doesn't reproduce in my environment
● It seems that some condition was necessary
22. 22
Draw (PDF import) - Asian Text Font do not load correctly
: Bug#147246
● Importing PDF into Draw shows wrong CJK font
● Fixed in 7.4.4/7.5.0 by Kevin Suo
23. 23
Unicode Hentaigana does not rotate in vertical
layout: Bug#114002
● Old Japanese kana "Hentaigana"
does not rotate when written vertically
● Now fixed
● Recently closed but seems to have been
fixed in a patch around 2018
24. 24
Does not display some characters when inputting
Japanese: Bug#152293
● During Japanese input, the part exceeding the width of the
cell is not displayed
● Only windows
● Not fixed
● I don't know if
this is only
in Japanese
25. 25
Japanese, vertical CTL text: some pasted text
displayed incorrectly: Bug#155772
● In Writer, there are occasionally overlap
in the vertical writing.
Not fixed
26. 26
Asian phonetic guide for Japanese does not work
properly if I change the default "base text".: Bug#141466
● delete a part of Base text and press Apply, it becomes an
incorrect string
● Not fixed
delete
27. 27
Tangut character aligned incorrectly in vertical layout :
Bug#114432
● The vertical writing
of the old character
Tangut is misaligned
● I couldn't test it
because it would be
tofu in my environment
● Now, added commit, classify
Tangut and Khitan
Small Script as ScriptType::ASIAN
● Fixed? Or not?
28. 28
Vertical text direction results in rotation, not vertical text
direction: Bug#154756
● Display non-CJK languages vertically
● Currently LibreOffice does not have that feature
● This was reported by Eyal (from Israel)
30. 32
LibreOffice community culture
● Community-based democratic architecture
● Openness and transparency culture
● Friendly and welcoming to newcomers
● A wide range of people from ecosystem companies to
volunteers and users participate
31. 33
How TDF is structured
Board of Trustees (“Members”)
currently 221 individuals working on foundation’s goals - approved for one year, once per
quarter -
active in community for 3 months, 6 more planned, donations do not qualify
Board of Directors
foundation’s legal representative
7 members and 3 deputies, term of 2 years
from around the globe, currently: Germany,
Turkey, Hungary, Netherlands, Italy, Czechia
M’Commite
e
5+4 members
term of 2 years
max. 10% of members
election of board
organizes
elections
election of committee
approval/
revocation
Adv’Board
orgs & companies,
not formal body of
TDF
gives advice
32. 34
Challenges: few CJK developers
● Even with openness, CJK developers are not easily
increased
● Lack of full-time CJK developers
34. 36
CJK volunteers
● Gerrit:
● Kevin Suo(Mainland China), Taichi Haradaguchi(Japanese ),
Mark Hung(Taiwanese), Kohei Yoshida(Japanese),
Po-Yen Huang(aka. Jeff Huang, Taiwanese)
● Bugzilla:(report)
● Kevin Suo, nobu(Japanese), Franklin Weng(Taiwanese),
more...
● I checked it with my eyes, so some people may have missed it
35. 37
Two developers joined TDF this year
● Khaled Hosny
● Developer, prioritising complex text-layout tasks
● He is active in CJK as well as RTL
● He was also active as a volunteer developer, but it is
expected that he will become more active
● Michael Weghorn
● Developer, prioritising accessibility tasks
36. 38
QA analyst joined last year
● Stéphane Guillou
● He was active in Bugzilla as a volunteer, but now joined TDF
and does bug triage every day
38. 40
LibreOffice Conf Asia 2023
● After Tokyo in 2019, AsiaConf will be held in Indonesia this
year
● CFP deadline is 2023-07-31
● https:/
/cfp.louca.id/louca-2023/
39. 41
Communication at events
● DaeHyun Sung from South Korea gave a keynote at
LibreOffice Kaigi (Japan's annual event), 2 weeks ago
40. 42
Improve each other's language support
through communication
● We often have the same problem
● Problems may be easier to solve if there is more
collaboration
● Bugzilla, Telegram / Matrix chat, ML, Conference
41. 43
Conclusion
● LibreOffice has various CJK functions, mostly okay, but
sometimes broken
● Introduced some CJK bugs, bugs have some pattern
● No full-time CJK developer, but TDF now has a developer
who also supports CJK
● CJK volunteer contributors could better resolve CJK issues
with more collaboration