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This is my first slide.
This is my second slide.
Just wanted to make sure the clicker was working.
Let’s talk about marketing.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
I’m Tom Tate.
● Product Marketing Manager at
AWeber, an email service provider.
● Launched my first podcast in 2012.
● Big head, small body. ---->
● From Philadelphia, PA
● I have 2.9 children.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
These are my shows.
I’m a full-stack digital marketer.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Me, last year, giving the most “marketing” talk ever.
“But I’m not a marketer…
I’m a podcaster.”
Marketers are the worst.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
We <3 our tools and software.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
We <3 our tools and software.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Source: http://b2bdigital.net/
Marketing… TMI.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
How can I help you go from getting started...
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
...to finding success.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Where podcasting success comes from...
● Dumb luck.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Where podcasting success comes from...
● Dumb luck.
● Outrageous talent.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Where podcasting success comes from...
● Dumb luck.
● Outrageous talent.
● Existing audience.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Where podcasting success comes from...
● Dumb luck.
● Outrageous talent.
● Existing audience.
● HARD WORK and REALLY GOOD MARKETING. :)
Congratulations, you’re a marketer now.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
After this talk you’ll walk away with...
● The BEST definition of ‘marketing.’
● At least, THREE tactics to grow your show.
● At least, THREE concepts to explore.
● Free (or cheap) tools to do it.
What is marketing?
Marketing is hard.
“Marketing is getting someone who has
a need to know, like, and trust you.”
- John Jantsch, Duct Tape Marketing
Getting someone who has a need
to know, like, and trust you.
Develop your listener persona/avatar.
TACTIC - Try this.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
“Your ideal listener is
not just someone who
would like your
show... it's someone
who NEEDS your
show.” - Me
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
“Your ideal listener is
not just someone who
would like your
show... it's someone
who NEEDS your
show.” - Me
This is what us marketers call a TWEETABLE. ;) #MAPCon #Podcaster #HowYouLikeMeNow
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Great Beer Adventure - Amanda Doughty
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Great Beer Adventure - Amanda Doughty
Is this your persona?
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Great Beer Adventure - Amanda Doughty
Or is this your persona?
Free Resource:
Digital
Marketer’s
Worksheet
http://www.digitalmarketer.co
m/customer-avatar-worksheet
/
TACTIC - Try this.
Identify the “job” your podcast does.
CONCEPT - Explore this.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Source: http://design.org/
CONCEPT:
Jobs To Be
Done
https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=VmbSpTJXozk
Getting someone to know you.
Finding your ideal listener.
Do free things that don’t scale.
CONCEPT - Explore this.
Fifteen minutes of work to find one new fan.
Participate in relevant online
communities.
TACTIC - Try this.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
The Unofficial Funko Fan Podcast by Teresa Nicole
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
https://reddit.com/r/funkopop
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
https://reddit.com/r/funkopop
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
https://reddit.com/r/funkopop
Social search - 15 minutes a day.
TACTIC - Try this.
Twitter is where my audience is. Where’s yours?
Be on other relevant/irrelevant shows.
TACTIC - Try this.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Other totally marketing-ish stuff
- Optimize for organic/search traffic. (Website and podcast SEO)
- Be in more places. (Syndicate your content. Medium, YouTube, blog, etc.)
- Use hashtags.
- Create better social media content, like video snippets of your podcast.
- Pay for awareness. (Use ads, only when you’re ready.)
Find me later if you want to ‘talk shop’ about some more advanced topics.
Getting someone to like you.
Or at least try to.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Life hack! How to get people to like you...
- Be authentic.
- Be helpful.
- Be human.
- Be present.
Participate in relevant online
communities.
TACTIC - Try this.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Good example.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Good example.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Bad example.
Bad example.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
People like open doors.
Ask questions!
TACTIC - Try this.
No more
donotreply@yourcompany.com
Read your bad reviews out loud.
TACTIC - Try this.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
“Good marketing is
talking WITH your
audience–
not AT your
audience.” -
@_RebeccaLex
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
“Good marketing is
talking WITH your
audience–
not AT your
audience.” -
@_RebeccaLex
Yo, it’s another TWEETABLE. ;) #MAPCon #Podcaster #WhatWhat
BOOK:
Hug Your
Haters
By Jay Baer
Don’t be the hero, be the guide.
CONCEPT - Explore this.
CONCEPT:
The Hero’s
Journey
Joseph Campbell
Source:
https://designingsomething.com
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Source: Pinterest
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Mark Asquith… the Yoda of entrepreneurs.
Getting someone to trust you.
Take your time.
Create an email-gated resource.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Stefan Roots - Dirty Water Dude
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Use Google Docs to create a summary of these episodes.
Provide value while building authority.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
We do this with email automation.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Make automated messages feel human.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
● Social proof.
● Publishing regularly. Was your last episode in 2015?
● Developing consistent branding.
● Having your own domain name / website.
Other things that create trust...
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Why this is important...
you@yourdomain.com
www.yourdomain.com
yourshow@gmail.com
yourshow.podbean.com
Finally, make it sound good.
@tnrt | tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
Focus on quality content / audio.
BOOK:
Influence
By Robert Cialdini
At this point I’m either over time or
running out of time.
Here’s what we learned...
“Marketing is getting someone who has
a need to know, like, and trust you.”
- John Jantsch, Duct Tape Marketing
Congratulations, you’re a marketer now.
tomtatejr.com/mapconslides
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