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Elmhurst College and the LGBT
    Application Question




Moderator: Stephanie Levenson, Director of Admission
    Presenters: Gary Rold, Dean of Admission
 Christine Grenier, Associate Director of Admission
Why Did We Ask?

• The History of Our Enrichment Scholarship
   • “Not limited to race or ethnicity”

• SAGE and EQUAL
   • Key Student Involvement

• Data collection

• Curiosity about our population
Where Did We Start?

• How did we ask?
   • 3 Variations of the same question



• Who did we ask?
   • The President of the College
   • The IACAC Admission Practices Committee
   • Our lawyers
   • Campus Pride-verifying if any one else is doing this…why
     recreate the wheel?



• Who did we not ask?
   • Alumni
   • Board of Trustees
Why not include the rest of the LGBT alphabet?

• Simply put, we felt that we had to start somewhere.

• We omitted “Queer”, as we learned that “queer” means different
  things to different people.

• We omitted Questioning because we are looking for affirmative
  answers to membership of the community.
Then….The Snowball Effect



• After asking Shane Windmeyer of
  Campus Pride to see if anyone else was
  allowing students to self identify, Shane
  asked if he could write a press release
  about it.

• Our response?
  ……Sure…um….ok…sounds good.
What Happened Next?



• The media descended during Orientation

• 11 Interviews in one day. To date? 21+

• TV, Newspaper, Internet, Blogs, Telephone Calls, Emails, Letters
Feedback from the Public


  “I just read the news about your decision to ask applicants to your
  institution about their sexual orientation. I just sat at my desk and
                     cried a little bit -- tears of joy.”


“My years at the University of Virginia could have been so much more
    fulfilling if I had been there during a different time. A social
  revolution is happening before our eyes. Thank you for bringing
                         down another barrier.”
“I will be extremely surprised if your „diverse‟ institution isn‟t 80-
90% liberal bias and agenda. … I believe it is far more important to
  have a diverse staff teaching diverse views to our young people
    then to push a pro-gay agenda under the color of diversity.”
“Education has nothing whatsoever to do with the sexual attractions
of an individual. Specific notice for people because of their sexual
 choices is absurd. Is a LGBT student somehow more qualified, or
  more interesting, or more meritorious than another hard working
 student? Quire frankly, it‟s demeaning to a person who is actually
 successful due to merit? Shame on you for pandering to the LGBT
                           fad of the day.”
Other Feedback
• Trustees

• Alumni

• Other Institutions
   • Duke
   • Lafayette
   • Utah
   • California State System
Wait… what are the students saying?
• A heads-up would have been appreciated
   • They‟re glad this wasn‟t a publicity stunt, but would have
      preferred to know before everyone else did

• Scholarship clarification

• Social support is here. When will academics catch up?

• Where is a staff member whose job it is to relate directly with the
  LGBT population?

• The student population is secretly divided about the presence of the
  question on our application.
More Importantly… What Have We Learned?

• Contrary to popular fears, students are not applying in droves just
  for scholarship monies.

• To no surprise, students identifying as LGBT are no different
  academically than other students.


• chart
Things to Consider



• As we have moved through the first cycle, we have also been
  presented with issues that have warranted important and timely
  discussions.

    • Coding and Particular Student Circumstances
    • Integrated Marketing & Visibility
    • Campus Support Systems
Conversations About Coding


• Which screen should host the information?
   • Demographics, Special Interest?


• Special security issues or concerns?
Particular Student Coding Issues


• To Code or Not to Code
   • a student who is out to
      everyone except their
      parents?

• How to Code
   • a student whose gender
     identity is male but who is
     biologically female, or a
     student who is pre-op
     transexual?
Other Case Based Student Issues




• Homelessness due to
  coming out

• Pre-op transexual students

• Contacting prospective
  students who bounce
  around because of lack of
  parental support
Future Considerations



• How do we serve the LGBT student?
   • Safety
   • Comfort
   • Housing during Campus Breaks
What Else Are We Doing?


• Integrated Marketing         •    Connecting students to
  Approach with regards to          EQUAL student group
  visibility in                     through phone and email.
  viewbooks, ads and letters
  to public.
                               •    SAFE training for all
• Diversity programming in          RAs, RLCs, OSLs
  the residence halls.
                               •    SAFE meetings to continue
• LGBT Programming                  the discussion
   • Big Gay Gathering
   • William R. Johnson
     Lecture
   • Pride Week
   • Pride Parade
   • Guest Lecture: Dan
     Savage
• Testimonial videos
     • Students
     • Faculty
     • Staff
     • Alumni
• It Gets Better video
• On campus resources
• External resources
Conclusion



   There is none! We are continuing to learn as we go. We are not
experts, but we are trying to serve our students in the best way we can.

  We will continue to be open to changing and altering policies and
                   programming as we go along.
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E40 Asking Students About LGBT Identity: What We Have Learned

  • 1. Elmhurst College and the LGBT Application Question Moderator: Stephanie Levenson, Director of Admission Presenters: Gary Rold, Dean of Admission Christine Grenier, Associate Director of Admission
  • 2. Why Did We Ask? • The History of Our Enrichment Scholarship • “Not limited to race or ethnicity” • SAGE and EQUAL • Key Student Involvement • Data collection • Curiosity about our population
  • 3. Where Did We Start? • How did we ask? • 3 Variations of the same question • Who did we ask? • The President of the College • The IACAC Admission Practices Committee • Our lawyers • Campus Pride-verifying if any one else is doing this…why recreate the wheel? • Who did we not ask? • Alumni • Board of Trustees
  • 4. Why not include the rest of the LGBT alphabet? • Simply put, we felt that we had to start somewhere. • We omitted “Queer”, as we learned that “queer” means different things to different people. • We omitted Questioning because we are looking for affirmative answers to membership of the community.
  • 5. Then….The Snowball Effect • After asking Shane Windmeyer of Campus Pride to see if anyone else was allowing students to self identify, Shane asked if he could write a press release about it. • Our response? ……Sure…um….ok…sounds good.
  • 6. What Happened Next? • The media descended during Orientation • 11 Interviews in one day. To date? 21+ • TV, Newspaper, Internet, Blogs, Telephone Calls, Emails, Letters
  • 7. Feedback from the Public “I just read the news about your decision to ask applicants to your institution about their sexual orientation. I just sat at my desk and cried a little bit -- tears of joy.” “My years at the University of Virginia could have been so much more fulfilling if I had been there during a different time. A social revolution is happening before our eyes. Thank you for bringing down another barrier.”
  • 8. “I will be extremely surprised if your „diverse‟ institution isn‟t 80- 90% liberal bias and agenda. … I believe it is far more important to have a diverse staff teaching diverse views to our young people then to push a pro-gay agenda under the color of diversity.”
  • 9. “Education has nothing whatsoever to do with the sexual attractions of an individual. Specific notice for people because of their sexual choices is absurd. Is a LGBT student somehow more qualified, or more interesting, or more meritorious than another hard working student? Quire frankly, it‟s demeaning to a person who is actually successful due to merit? Shame on you for pandering to the LGBT fad of the day.”
  • 10. Other Feedback • Trustees • Alumni • Other Institutions • Duke • Lafayette • Utah • California State System
  • 11. Wait… what are the students saying? • A heads-up would have been appreciated • They‟re glad this wasn‟t a publicity stunt, but would have preferred to know before everyone else did • Scholarship clarification • Social support is here. When will academics catch up? • Where is a staff member whose job it is to relate directly with the LGBT population? • The student population is secretly divided about the presence of the question on our application.
  • 12. More Importantly… What Have We Learned? • Contrary to popular fears, students are not applying in droves just for scholarship monies. • To no surprise, students identifying as LGBT are no different academically than other students. • chart
  • 13. Things to Consider • As we have moved through the first cycle, we have also been presented with issues that have warranted important and timely discussions. • Coding and Particular Student Circumstances • Integrated Marketing & Visibility • Campus Support Systems
  • 14. Conversations About Coding • Which screen should host the information? • Demographics, Special Interest? • Special security issues or concerns?
  • 15. Particular Student Coding Issues • To Code or Not to Code • a student who is out to everyone except their parents? • How to Code • a student whose gender identity is male but who is biologically female, or a student who is pre-op transexual?
  • 16. Other Case Based Student Issues • Homelessness due to coming out • Pre-op transexual students • Contacting prospective students who bounce around because of lack of parental support
  • 17. Future Considerations • How do we serve the LGBT student? • Safety • Comfort • Housing during Campus Breaks
  • 18. What Else Are We Doing? • Integrated Marketing • Connecting students to Approach with regards to EQUAL student group visibility in through phone and email. viewbooks, ads and letters to public. • SAFE training for all • Diversity programming in RAs, RLCs, OSLs the residence halls. • SAFE meetings to continue • LGBT Programming the discussion • Big Gay Gathering • William R. Johnson Lecture • Pride Week • Pride Parade • Guest Lecture: Dan Savage
  • 19. • Testimonial videos • Students • Faculty • Staff • Alumni • It Gets Better video • On campus resources • External resources
  • 20. Conclusion There is none! We are continuing to learn as we go. We are not experts, but we are trying to serve our students in the best way we can. We will continue to be open to changing and altering policies and programming as we go along.