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Steve Burton
@BurtonSays
WARNING:
ZERO
MARKETING
QUALIFICATIONS
Who am I?
Things That Drive me Insane
• ”Can we check with corporate to get that approved”
• “I created 5,000 leads last month”
• “I need you to stay on brand”
• “Sales people just don’t understand”
• “The product sells itself”
Things That Made Me Laugh
• “I don’t really believe in Social Media” – Head of PR
• “Can we A/B test the shit out of that” – CRO
• “I’ve seen this movie before, at my last company 10 years ago” –
President
• “Can’t we do some digital banner ads and retargeting” – CRO
• ”Talking about the competition elevates them” - CMO
Bottom Line: Marketing Makes Me Feel
Marketing Leaders Don’t Last Long
• AppDynamics – 8 Leaders in 9 years
• Moogsoft – 4 in 6 years
• Glassdoor – 6 in 10 years
• OpTier – 5 in 7 years
Biggest Marketing Mistakes in First 90 Days
• Not Aligning with sales, first meetings, relationships, objections, needs
• Not Understanding the real problem/market/buyer
• Product Features vs. Business Value
• Not Aligning Expectations/Goals/Budget with CEO
• Not Spending time with team
• Branding, Branding, Branding
Don’t Be This Marketing Executive
SMarketing (Sales Marketing)
“Marketing thru the eyes of a Sales Rep”
If you don’t sell,
everything else is kind of irrelevant.
Winning the Respect of Sales
• Quality over Quantity
• Collaboration over Dictatorship
• Feedback over Bitching
• Transparency over Agenda
Quality
• Opens
• Views / Impressions
• Clicks
• Signups / Leads / Scans
• Qualified Meetings (Need)
• Qualified Opportunities (Pipeline)
• Customers (Revenue)
Sales Care
About This
Can Find Budget
Business or
Technology Fit
Right
Buyer
Problem
or Pain
Collaboration
• Email, Slack
• Phone/Beers/Lunch/Coffee
• Bi-Weekly Syncs
• Get used to last-minute sales requests
• Help them sell (demos, meetings, roi, events, …)
Example: Glassdoor
• Our ASP was $7.5k
• Our value was 20X more than LinkedIn (customers told us)
• Increased prices 300-500%
• Sales Execs bought into it, but roll out was a disaster
• ASP increased to $16.5k within a year (ENT $12k to $45k)
Feedback
• Identify ALL Sales Objections
• Why Do You Win? Why Do You Lose?
• Expect Feedback & Enablement sessions
• Learn to Give/Receive Feedback (EQ vs. IQ)
Transparency
• Don’t BS your numbers or metrics (you’ll lose)
• Be Clear On What Help You Need
• Communicate Your Projects (market what you do)
• Communicate Your Success/Failure
• Be Honest but Firm
Things That Make A Difference
• Listening. It’s about Sales, Not Marketing
• Your Message/Story is a collaboration
• Learn how to sell (like actually sell)
• Support New Sales Hires & Leaders
• Be Curious, Don’t Assume, Benefit of Doubt
Example: AppDynamics
• Many Sales Leadership Changes
• New US & EMEA Sales Leaders
• Recruiting, Selling, Demo’ing, Tooling, Enabling, Hustling
• Proven/Experienced Sales Leaders Know What Works
• Smart enough to Know What Doesn’t Work
Tips for Product/Market Fit
• Market & Analysts
• Buyer (who really cares)
• Segment (SMB, Mid, Enterprise)
• Competition (yep, no competition is a bad thing)
• Uniqueness & Differentiation
• Quantifiable Business Value
• Customer Proof Points
• Pricing
Marketing Compensation
• Align Marketing Comp with Sales Comp
• In General (Demand & PMM)
• 50% tied to creating qualified opportunities (pipeline)
• 50% tied to company revenue (sales)
• Sales Enablement
• 50% tied to Time-To-First-Deal (Velocity)
• 50% tied to Time-To-Achieving-Quota (Revenue)
Harness First Nine Months
• ~1,000 First Meetings & Demos
• 23 Messaging Versions
• 10 Referenceable Customers (30 Customers total)
• 67 Blogs
• 50% of New Logos from Marketing
HARD WORK
Tools We Use
• Wordpress (website & blog)
• MindTickle (Enablement)
• TweetDeck (Social)
• Chorus.AI (Record & Analyze
meetings)
• Allbound (Partner Enablement)
• Marketo (automation)
• Salesforce (CRM)
• Camtasia (video)
• Wistia (video)
• Adobe Creative Suite (graphics)
• LeanData (lead routing)
• Drift (chat)
• Outreach (bdr)
• Prospect (bdr)
• LinkedIn (bdr)
SMarketing
• Put Sales Before Marketing
• Quality, Collaboration, Feedback, Transparency
• Marketing through a Lens of a Sales Leader/Rep
• Remember….
If you don’t sell,
everything else is kind of irrelevant.
Questions?
@BurtonSays

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  • 4. Things That Drive me Insane • ”Can we check with corporate to get that approved” • “I created 5,000 leads last month” • “I need you to stay on brand” • “Sales people just don’t understand” • “The product sells itself”
  • 5. Things That Made Me Laugh • “I don’t really believe in Social Media” – Head of PR • “Can we A/B test the shit out of that” – CRO • “I’ve seen this movie before, at my last company 10 years ago” – President • “Can’t we do some digital banner ads and retargeting” – CRO • ”Talking about the competition elevates them” - CMO
  • 6. Bottom Line: Marketing Makes Me Feel
  • 7. Marketing Leaders Don’t Last Long • AppDynamics – 8 Leaders in 9 years • Moogsoft – 4 in 6 years • Glassdoor – 6 in 10 years • OpTier – 5 in 7 years
  • 8. Biggest Marketing Mistakes in First 90 Days • Not Aligning with sales, first meetings, relationships, objections, needs • Not Understanding the real problem/market/buyer • Product Features vs. Business Value • Not Aligning Expectations/Goals/Budget with CEO • Not Spending time with team • Branding, Branding, Branding
  • 9. Don’t Be This Marketing Executive
  • 10. SMarketing (Sales Marketing) “Marketing thru the eyes of a Sales Rep”
  • 11. If you don’t sell, everything else is kind of irrelevant.
  • 12. Winning the Respect of Sales • Quality over Quantity • Collaboration over Dictatorship • Feedback over Bitching • Transparency over Agenda
  • 13. Quality • Opens • Views / Impressions • Clicks • Signups / Leads / Scans • Qualified Meetings (Need) • Qualified Opportunities (Pipeline) • Customers (Revenue) Sales Care About This
  • 14. Can Find Budget Business or Technology Fit Right Buyer Problem or Pain
  • 15. Collaboration • Email, Slack • Phone/Beers/Lunch/Coffee • Bi-Weekly Syncs • Get used to last-minute sales requests • Help them sell (demos, meetings, roi, events, …)
  • 16. Example: Glassdoor • Our ASP was $7.5k • Our value was 20X more than LinkedIn (customers told us) • Increased prices 300-500% • Sales Execs bought into it, but roll out was a disaster • ASP increased to $16.5k within a year (ENT $12k to $45k)
  • 17. Feedback • Identify ALL Sales Objections • Why Do You Win? Why Do You Lose? • Expect Feedback & Enablement sessions • Learn to Give/Receive Feedback (EQ vs. IQ)
  • 18. Transparency • Don’t BS your numbers or metrics (you’ll lose) • Be Clear On What Help You Need • Communicate Your Projects (market what you do) • Communicate Your Success/Failure • Be Honest but Firm
  • 19. Things That Make A Difference • Listening. It’s about Sales, Not Marketing • Your Message/Story is a collaboration • Learn how to sell (like actually sell) • Support New Sales Hires & Leaders • Be Curious, Don’t Assume, Benefit of Doubt
  • 20. Example: AppDynamics • Many Sales Leadership Changes • New US & EMEA Sales Leaders • Recruiting, Selling, Demo’ing, Tooling, Enabling, Hustling • Proven/Experienced Sales Leaders Know What Works • Smart enough to Know What Doesn’t Work
  • 21. Tips for Product/Market Fit • Market & Analysts • Buyer (who really cares) • Segment (SMB, Mid, Enterprise) • Competition (yep, no competition is a bad thing) • Uniqueness & Differentiation • Quantifiable Business Value • Customer Proof Points • Pricing
  • 22. Marketing Compensation • Align Marketing Comp with Sales Comp • In General (Demand & PMM) • 50% tied to creating qualified opportunities (pipeline) • 50% tied to company revenue (sales) • Sales Enablement • 50% tied to Time-To-First-Deal (Velocity) • 50% tied to Time-To-Achieving-Quota (Revenue)
  • 23. Harness First Nine Months • ~1,000 First Meetings & Demos • 23 Messaging Versions • 10 Referenceable Customers (30 Customers total) • 67 Blogs • 50% of New Logos from Marketing HARD WORK
  • 24. Tools We Use • Wordpress (website & blog) • MindTickle (Enablement) • TweetDeck (Social) • Chorus.AI (Record & Analyze meetings) • Allbound (Partner Enablement) • Marketo (automation) • Salesforce (CRM) • Camtasia (video) • Wistia (video) • Adobe Creative Suite (graphics) • LeanData (lead routing) • Drift (chat) • Outreach (bdr) • Prospect (bdr) • LinkedIn (bdr)
  • 25. SMarketing • Put Sales Before Marketing • Quality, Collaboration, Feedback, Transparency • Marketing through a Lens of a Sales Leader/Rep • Remember….
  • 26. If you don’t sell, everything else is kind of irrelevant.