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SEO	
  Is	
  Dead?	
  
Casey	
  Winters	
  
PM	
  Growth	
  @	
  Pinterest	
  
@onecaseman	
  
caseyaccidental.com	
  
Is	
  SEO	
  s>ll	
  an	
  important	
  growth	
  
channel?	
  
Casey	
  Winters	
  |	
  @onecaseman	
  |	
  caseyaccidental.com	
  
Why	
  could	
  it	
  maCer?	
  
•  One	
  of	
  a	
  few	
  channels	
  with	
  true	
  scale	
  
•  Only	
  cost	
  is	
  engineering	
  opportunity	
  cost	
  
Casey	
  Winters	
  |	
  @onecaseman	
  |	
  caseyaccidental.com	
  
How	
  do	
  you	
  priori>ze	
  SEO?	
  
Casey	
  Winters	
  |	
  @onecaseman	
  |	
  caseyaccidental.com	
  
How	
  do	
  you	
  know	
  what	
  box	
  you’re	
  in?	
  
•  Who?	
  	
  
•  What?	
  	
  
•  When?	
  	
  
•  Where?	
  	
  
•  How?	
  	
  
	
  
GrubHub,	
  every	
  restaurant	
  name	
  	
  
food,	
  delivery,	
  Chinese,	
  indian,	
  menus	
  
breakfast,	
  lunch,	
  dinner,	
  late	
  night	
  
Vancouver,	
  University	
  of	
  BC,	
  Kitsilano	
  
Online	
  ordering,	
  mobile	
  app	
  
	
  
Casey	
  Winters	
  |	
  @onecaseman	
  |	
  caseyaccidental.com	
  
Now	
  test	
  for	
  search	
  volume	
  and	
  
compe>>veness	
  
Casey	
  Winters	
  |	
  @onecaseman	
  |	
  caseyaccidental.com	
  
What	
  is	
  good	
  SEO?	
  
•  Short	
  answer:	
  really	
  good	
  landing	
  pages	
  
•  Long	
  answer:	
  relevant	
  and	
  authorita>ve	
  
	
  
Casey	
  Winters	
  |	
  @onecaseman	
  |	
  caseyaccidental.com	
  
Relevance:	
  On	
  Page	
  Factors	
  
•  Title	
  tags	
  
•  HTML	
  tags	
  
•  Text	
  
•  URL	
  
•  Uniqueness	
  
•  Freshness	
  
•  Where	
  keywords	
  are	
  located	
  
•  Diversity	
  of	
  content	
  types	
  
•  Number	
  of	
  links	
  on	
  the	
  page	
  
•  Ad	
  blocks	
  on	
  the	
  page	
  
	
  
Casey	
  Winters	
  |	
  @onecaseman	
  |	
  caseyaccidental.com	
  
Authority:	
  Off	
  Page	
  Factors	
  
•  Quan>ty	
  of	
  external	
  links	
  
•  Quality	
  of	
  external	
  links	
  
•  Anchor	
  text	
  of	
  links	
  
•  Metrics	
  from	
  search	
  engines	
  e.g.	
  bounce	
  rate	
  
and	
  CTR	
  
•  Content	
  area	
  of	
  external	
  links	
  
•  Diversity	
  of	
  link	
  types	
  
	
  
Casey	
  Winters	
  |	
  @onecaseman	
  |	
  caseyaccidental.com	
  
Prequisites:	
  Discoverability	
  and	
  
Readability	
  
•  Search	
  engines	
  use	
  spiders	
  or	
  crawlers	
  to	
  DISCOVER	
  pages	
  
across	
  the	
  web	
  
•  They	
  READ	
  any	
  content	
  they	
  find	
  on	
  those	
  pages	
  
–  Text	
  
–  Flash	
  
–  JavaScript	
  
–  AJAX	
  
–  Images	
  
–  Video	
  
•  So,	
  in	
  order	
  to	
  succeed	
  you	
  need	
  to	
  be	
  DISCOVERABLE	
  and	
  
READABLE	
  
Casey	
  Winters	
  |	
  @onecaseman	
  |	
  caseyaccidental.com	
  
You’re	
  bought	
  in:	
  What’s	
  next?	
  
•  SEO	
  is	
  engineering/product	
  driven	
  
•  Change	
  your	
  site	
  to	
  improve	
  
•  Do	
  experiments	
  
– Adding	
  content	
  /	
  pages	
  
– Improving	
  uniqueness	
  
– Helping	
  search	
  engines	
  find	
  your	
  content	
  
•  You	
  can’t	
  experiment	
  on	
  aCrac>ng	
  links	
  
	
  
Casey	
  Winters	
  |	
  @onecaseman	
  |	
  caseyaccidental.com	
  
I	
  only	
  have	
  a	
  mobile	
  app.	
  Should	
  I	
  
care?	
  
Casey	
  Winters	
  |	
  @onecaseman	
  |	
  caseyaccidental.com	
  
Obligatory	
  Connec>ng	
  Slide	
  
•  Connect	
  with	
  me	
  on	
  TwiCer:	
  @onecaseman	
  
•  Read	
  my	
  blog:	
  caseyaccidental.com	
  
•  Work	
  me	
  at	
  about.pinterest.com/careers	
  
•  Use	
  Pinterest	
  heavily	
  so	
  I	
  can	
  keep	
  my	
  job	
  
	
  
Casey	
  Winters	
  |	
  @onecaseman	
  |	
  caseyaccidental.com	
  

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SEO is Dead? - Casey Winters, Pinterest

  • 1. SEO  Is  Dead?   Casey  Winters   PM  Growth  @  Pinterest   @onecaseman   caseyaccidental.com  
  • 2. Is  SEO  s>ll  an  important  growth   channel?   Casey  Winters  |  @onecaseman  |  caseyaccidental.com  
  • 3. Why  could  it  maCer?   •  One  of  a  few  channels  with  true  scale   •  Only  cost  is  engineering  opportunity  cost   Casey  Winters  |  @onecaseman  |  caseyaccidental.com  
  • 4. How  do  you  priori>ze  SEO?   Casey  Winters  |  @onecaseman  |  caseyaccidental.com  
  • 5. How  do  you  know  what  box  you’re  in?   •  Who?     •  What?     •  When?     •  Where?     •  How?       GrubHub,  every  restaurant  name     food,  delivery,  Chinese,  indian,  menus   breakfast,  lunch,  dinner,  late  night   Vancouver,  University  of  BC,  Kitsilano   Online  ordering,  mobile  app     Casey  Winters  |  @onecaseman  |  caseyaccidental.com  
  • 6. Now  test  for  search  volume  and   compe>>veness   Casey  Winters  |  @onecaseman  |  caseyaccidental.com  
  • 7. What  is  good  SEO?   •  Short  answer:  really  good  landing  pages   •  Long  answer:  relevant  and  authorita>ve     Casey  Winters  |  @onecaseman  |  caseyaccidental.com  
  • 8. Relevance:  On  Page  Factors   •  Title  tags   •  HTML  tags   •  Text   •  URL   •  Uniqueness   •  Freshness   •  Where  keywords  are  located   •  Diversity  of  content  types   •  Number  of  links  on  the  page   •  Ad  blocks  on  the  page     Casey  Winters  |  @onecaseman  |  caseyaccidental.com  
  • 9. Authority:  Off  Page  Factors   •  Quan>ty  of  external  links   •  Quality  of  external  links   •  Anchor  text  of  links   •  Metrics  from  search  engines  e.g.  bounce  rate   and  CTR   •  Content  area  of  external  links   •  Diversity  of  link  types     Casey  Winters  |  @onecaseman  |  caseyaccidental.com  
  • 10. Prequisites:  Discoverability  and   Readability   •  Search  engines  use  spiders  or  crawlers  to  DISCOVER  pages   across  the  web   •  They  READ  any  content  they  find  on  those  pages   –  Text   –  Flash   –  JavaScript   –  AJAX   –  Images   –  Video   •  So,  in  order  to  succeed  you  need  to  be  DISCOVERABLE  and   READABLE   Casey  Winters  |  @onecaseman  |  caseyaccidental.com  
  • 11. You’re  bought  in:  What’s  next?   •  SEO  is  engineering/product  driven   •  Change  your  site  to  improve   •  Do  experiments   – Adding  content  /  pages   – Improving  uniqueness   – Helping  search  engines  find  your  content   •  You  can’t  experiment  on  aCrac>ng  links     Casey  Winters  |  @onecaseman  |  caseyaccidental.com  
  • 12. I  only  have  a  mobile  app.  Should  I   care?   Casey  Winters  |  @onecaseman  |  caseyaccidental.com  
  • 13. Obligatory  Connec>ng  Slide   •  Connect  with  me  on  TwiCer:  @onecaseman   •  Read  my  blog:  caseyaccidental.com   •  Work  me  at  about.pinterest.com/careers   •  Use  Pinterest  heavily  so  I  can  keep  my  job     Casey  Winters  |  @onecaseman  |  caseyaccidental.com