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Colette Murphy
School of Education
Queen’s University
Belfast
Research questions



Is assessment putting children off science?




What ‘works’ for children re science assessment?




 What can we learn from the children’s perspectives?
Children’s rights approach

•
Children’s rights approach


• The research drew from a children’s rights-based methodology
  employed in other projects (eg Lundy & McEvoy, 2008) which
  involved in particular:

        – Children’s participation in the research process
        – Children’s research advisory groups (CRAGs)
        – Children’s rights-based research instruments
        – Online surveys with children
Children’s rights-based
Initial Meetings with Children’s Research Advisory Groups
                                                                                        research methodology

Capacity building activities are undertaken to engage children in CRAGs with
the issues surrounding the research questions.

Children’s input is sought into the most effective way to engage their peers in
the research



                       Initial Survey Design
       Research team design online survey based on children’s
       responses during initial meeting(s)
                                                                                                          Run Survey

                        Review and Refine Survey                    survey design          Online survey is opened to all participating
                                                                                          children
                 Meeting is held with CRAGs to ascertain views      completed
                 on ‘draft’ online survey. This is amended as
                 appropriate.
                                                                                                         Collate Data
                                                                                            Research team collate and analyse data

                                Pilot Survey
                Survey is piloted with children who are neither
                                                                                                Meeting with CRAGs
                members of CRAGs nor will be participants in                      Children in CRAG are engaged in a range of activities
                the study                                                         to involve them in the analysis and interpretation of
                                                                                  data from the survey

                                                                                  Children’s input is sought in relation to dissemination
                                                                                  of findings to their peers
CAPACITY BUILDING
Audience
What we learned from children:
data interpretation
What we learned from children:
assessment
How useful do you think science assessments in
primary school are for children?




                                                          I think I would do a group assessment to assess the children with
         very useful,                                     different abilities and learning styles. I would do this because I think it
                              not useful
         useful or a little
                              at all                      is unfair to some children doing well because they are more of writing
         useful
                                                          answers and some children are more of talking and some are more
                                                          drawing. So I would do some assessments as classwork, orally
   Responses about impact of assessment                   asking questions…
        on home life & friendships

                                                          I would organise trips to science museums but make it fun and
                                                          enjoyable. I would also enter them in science competitions so that they
                                                          can get a reward out of it. Then after every three to five weeks I would
                                                          hand out some sheets asking them to write down how they feel, how
                                           Positive
                                                          this can be improved and if they have any questions I will also give out
                                           Not positive
                                                          something like an assessment where they can research and write
                                                          down info so they have a taste of secondary school
Some conclusions


• Most children are POSITIVELY inclined towards testing in
  science

• By including and respecting the children’s perspective, we
  can make much better decisions regarding all aspects of
  their education.

• Children often have a much more sophisticated
  understanding of the issues than they are given credit for
  - they raise issues which might otherwise be overlooked.

• Adults may have the responsibility for making decisions
  but it is the children who live with the consequences.

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SCC 2012 youth voice: getting a fresh perspective on your projects; Marks tell you how you’ve done; comments tell you why (Colette Murphy)

  • 1. “Marks tell you how you’ve done; comments tell you why” Colette Murphy School of Education Queen’s University Belfast
  • 2. Research questions Is assessment putting children off science? What ‘works’ for children re science assessment? What can we learn from the children’s perspectives?
  • 4. Children’s rights approach • The research drew from a children’s rights-based methodology employed in other projects (eg Lundy & McEvoy, 2008) which involved in particular: – Children’s participation in the research process – Children’s research advisory groups (CRAGs) – Children’s rights-based research instruments – Online surveys with children
  • 5. Children’s rights-based Initial Meetings with Children’s Research Advisory Groups research methodology Capacity building activities are undertaken to engage children in CRAGs with the issues surrounding the research questions. Children’s input is sought into the most effective way to engage their peers in the research Initial Survey Design Research team design online survey based on children’s responses during initial meeting(s) Run Survey Review and Refine Survey survey design Online survey is opened to all participating children Meeting is held with CRAGs to ascertain views completed on ‘draft’ online survey. This is amended as appropriate. Collate Data Research team collate and analyse data Pilot Survey Survey is piloted with children who are neither Meeting with CRAGs members of CRAGs nor will be participants in Children in CRAG are engaged in a range of activities the study to involve them in the analysis and interpretation of data from the survey Children’s input is sought in relation to dissemination of findings to their peers
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  • 11. What we learned from children: data interpretation
  • 12. What we learned from children: assessment How useful do you think science assessments in primary school are for children? I think I would do a group assessment to assess the children with very useful, different abilities and learning styles. I would do this because I think it not useful useful or a little at all is unfair to some children doing well because they are more of writing useful answers and some children are more of talking and some are more drawing. So I would do some assessments as classwork, orally Responses about impact of assessment asking questions… on home life & friendships I would organise trips to science museums but make it fun and enjoyable. I would also enter them in science competitions so that they can get a reward out of it. Then after every three to five weeks I would hand out some sheets asking them to write down how they feel, how Positive this can be improved and if they have any questions I will also give out Not positive something like an assessment where they can research and write down info so they have a taste of secondary school
  • 13. Some conclusions • Most children are POSITIVELY inclined towards testing in science • By including and respecting the children’s perspective, we can make much better decisions regarding all aspects of their education. • Children often have a much more sophisticated understanding of the issues than they are given credit for - they raise issues which might otherwise be overlooked. • Adults may have the responsibility for making decisions but it is the children who live with the consequences.

Editor's Notes

  1. More than 90% of children agreed that science assessment was useful.