A Geometrical Heuristic Image Processing Approach For The Automatic Detection...CSCJournals
The type-IV crater is a chondral lesion found in 5-10 percent of injured knees undergoing
arthroscopy. The lesion is identified as a serious injury, being found predominantly in young
adults, around 30 years of age, having the potential to quickly progress to osteoarthritis due to
high load sporting activities typically pursued by this age group. In addition, pain and swelling
often accompany larger lesions of this type, and it is recommended that treatment occurs as soon
as possible while the lesion is well demarcated.
The main limitation, in the quantification of type-IV crater volumes in ‘real’ human knees is that it
is not possible to obtain the true volumes of the craters through a physical experimental measure
and manual delineation is known to suffer from user error.
We resolve this issue by performing extensive simulations of synthetic craters, of known radii and
volume, within the femoral cartilage of 21 healthy knee joints to validate how a novel geometrical
heuristic image processing approach can be used to detect type-IV crater lesions and quantify
their volumes accurately in real-time from pre-segmented MR images which we compare to the
standard manual delineation approach. We show that the mean %error in accuracy of our
approach compared to the manual delineation approach for detecting and quantifying synthetic
craters of 2-4 mm radii was significantly less (P<0.05)><0.001). In addition, it was found that our
developed approach could identify anatomical location of the real type-IV craters to be the same
as a blinded operator’s identification of the position of craters (Kappa=1). Furthermore, since our
developed approach performed better than the standard manual delineation approach from the synthetic crater results, we applied it as the benchmark for the quantification of real type-IV crater
volumes, and demonstrate how the manual delineation approach underestimated the real type IV
crater volumes with a mean %error of 1.7% which was found to be consistent with the synthetic
simulations.
In conclusion, we demonstrate how a novel geometrical heuristic image processing approach can
provide accurate real-time, automatic detection and quantification of type-IV crater lesions in presegmented
MR images of the femoral cartilage for radii 2-5 mm. To the authors knowledge this is
the first time type-IV crater lesions in the MR image of a human femoral cartilage have been
detected and quantified automatically.
Convergence: Patient, Surgeon and RoboticistLarry Smarr
Panel Presentation
by Larry Smarr & Sonia Ramamoorthy, UCSD and Catherine Mohr, Intuitive Surgical
Empowered Patients, Collaborations, Disparities
Exponential Medicine 2017
San Diego, CA
November 6, 2017
Data Science and the Clinical Quantified SelfLarry Smarr
Contribution
Precision Medicine in Gastroenterology and Hepatology
13th Annual Research Symposium of the UCSD Division of Gastroenterology
University of California San Diego
June 7, 2019
A Geometrical Heuristic Image Processing Approach For The Automatic Detection...CSCJournals
The type-IV crater is a chondral lesion found in 5-10 percent of injured knees undergoing
arthroscopy. The lesion is identified as a serious injury, being found predominantly in young
adults, around 30 years of age, having the potential to quickly progress to osteoarthritis due to
high load sporting activities typically pursued by this age group. In addition, pain and swelling
often accompany larger lesions of this type, and it is recommended that treatment occurs as soon
as possible while the lesion is well demarcated.
The main limitation, in the quantification of type-IV crater volumes in ‘real’ human knees is that it
is not possible to obtain the true volumes of the craters through a physical experimental measure
and manual delineation is known to suffer from user error.
We resolve this issue by performing extensive simulations of synthetic craters, of known radii and
volume, within the femoral cartilage of 21 healthy knee joints to validate how a novel geometrical
heuristic image processing approach can be used to detect type-IV crater lesions and quantify
their volumes accurately in real-time from pre-segmented MR images which we compare to the
standard manual delineation approach. We show that the mean %error in accuracy of our
approach compared to the manual delineation approach for detecting and quantifying synthetic
craters of 2-4 mm radii was significantly less (P<0.05)><0.001). In addition, it was found that our
developed approach could identify anatomical location of the real type-IV craters to be the same
as a blinded operator’s identification of the position of craters (Kappa=1). Furthermore, since our
developed approach performed better than the standard manual delineation approach from the synthetic crater results, we applied it as the benchmark for the quantification of real type-IV crater
volumes, and demonstrate how the manual delineation approach underestimated the real type IV
crater volumes with a mean %error of 1.7% which was found to be consistent with the synthetic
simulations.
In conclusion, we demonstrate how a novel geometrical heuristic image processing approach can
provide accurate real-time, automatic detection and quantification of type-IV crater lesions in presegmented
MR images of the femoral cartilage for radii 2-5 mm. To the authors knowledge this is
the first time type-IV crater lesions in the MR image of a human femoral cartilage have been
detected and quantified automatically.
Convergence: Patient, Surgeon and RoboticistLarry Smarr
Panel Presentation
by Larry Smarr & Sonia Ramamoorthy, UCSD and Catherine Mohr, Intuitive Surgical
Empowered Patients, Collaborations, Disparities
Exponential Medicine 2017
San Diego, CA
November 6, 2017
Data Science and the Clinical Quantified SelfLarry Smarr
Contribution
Precision Medicine in Gastroenterology and Hepatology
13th Annual Research Symposium of the UCSD Division of Gastroenterology
University of California San Diego
June 7, 2019
Using Advanced Technology to Better Diagnose Somatic DysfunctionLarry Smarr
Joint Presentation
The American Academy of Osteopathy 2017 Convocation
The Balance Point: Bringing the Science and Art of Osteopathic Medicine Together
Colorado Springs, CO
March 24, 2017
This is the first of a 4-part series introducing Scintica’s newly formed relationship with IVIM Technology and their IntraVital Microscopy platform (IVM).
In this session, we introduced the fundamentals of fluorescence microscopy, review some example images, and focus on this technique's intravital imaging applications. This webinar focused on formulating a basic understanding of the imaging modality to further understand the IVM system's capabilities throughout the rest of the webinar series.
First, the fundamental principles of fluorescence imaging were explained, along with their advantages and challenges with applied in an in vivo setting. Next, we highlighted intravital microscopy's advantages and its role in oncology research and other scientific areas. We also provided an overview of the most commonly used animal models for intravital imaging. Finally, we focused on the importance of acquiring quantitative imaging data and navigate around some pitfalls. Key examples from the research field were collected in this webinar.
After attending this webinar, attendees will have:
a basic understanding of the fundamentals of fluorescence microscopy,
an overview of intravital imaging advantages and applications,
an overview of the most commonly used intravital imaging animal models,
an understanding of what to pay attention to in order to acquire quantitative imaging data.
N-of-1 Experience in Personalized Lifestyle MedicineLarry Smarr
Invited Talk
2018 Thought Leaders Consortium
The Science of Precision:
What’s Next for Personalized Lifestyle Health Care
Tucson, Arizona
October 13, 2018
Chemotherapy for liver metastases from colorectal cancer now makes it possible to reduce their size. Sometimes these metastases can even disappear. This does not mean that the metastases are cured and surgical removal is always advisable. The main problem is how to identify these "vanishing" metastases during liver resection and how to perform truly effective interventions from an oncological point of view.
Using Advanced Technology to Better Diagnose Somatic DysfunctionLarry Smarr
Joint Presentation
The American Academy of Osteopathy 2017 Convocation
The Balance Point: Bringing the Science and Art of Osteopathic Medicine Together
Colorado Springs, CO
March 24, 2017
This is the first of a 4-part series introducing Scintica’s newly formed relationship with IVIM Technology and their IntraVital Microscopy platform (IVM).
In this session, we introduced the fundamentals of fluorescence microscopy, review some example images, and focus on this technique's intravital imaging applications. This webinar focused on formulating a basic understanding of the imaging modality to further understand the IVM system's capabilities throughout the rest of the webinar series.
First, the fundamental principles of fluorescence imaging were explained, along with their advantages and challenges with applied in an in vivo setting. Next, we highlighted intravital microscopy's advantages and its role in oncology research and other scientific areas. We also provided an overview of the most commonly used animal models for intravital imaging. Finally, we focused on the importance of acquiring quantitative imaging data and navigate around some pitfalls. Key examples from the research field were collected in this webinar.
After attending this webinar, attendees will have:
a basic understanding of the fundamentals of fluorescence microscopy,
an overview of intravital imaging advantages and applications,
an overview of the most commonly used intravital imaging animal models,
an understanding of what to pay attention to in order to acquire quantitative imaging data.
N-of-1 Experience in Personalized Lifestyle MedicineLarry Smarr
Invited Talk
2018 Thought Leaders Consortium
The Science of Precision:
What’s Next for Personalized Lifestyle Health Care
Tucson, Arizona
October 13, 2018
Chemotherapy for liver metastases from colorectal cancer now makes it possible to reduce their size. Sometimes these metastases can even disappear. This does not mean that the metastases are cured and surgical removal is always advisable. The main problem is how to identify these "vanishing" metastases during liver resection and how to perform truly effective interventions from an oncological point of view.
Earliest Galaxies in the JADES Origins Field: Luminosity Function and Cosmic ...Sérgio Sacani
We characterize the earliest galaxy population in the JADES Origins Field (JOF), the deepest
imaging field observed with JWST. We make use of the ancillary Hubble optical images (5 filters
spanning 0.4−0.9µm) and novel JWST images with 14 filters spanning 0.8−5µm, including 7 mediumband filters, and reaching total exposure times of up to 46 hours per filter. We combine all our data
at > 2.3µm to construct an ultradeep image, reaching as deep as ≈ 31.4 AB mag in the stack and
30.3-31.0 AB mag (5σ, r = 0.1” circular aperture) in individual filters. We measure photometric
redshifts and use robust selection criteria to identify a sample of eight galaxy candidates at redshifts
z = 11.5 − 15. These objects show compact half-light radii of R1/2 ∼ 50 − 200pc, stellar masses of
M⋆ ∼ 107−108M⊙, and star-formation rates of SFR ∼ 0.1−1 M⊙ yr−1
. Our search finds no candidates
at 15 < z < 20, placing upper limits at these redshifts. We develop a forward modeling approach to
infer the properties of the evolving luminosity function without binning in redshift or luminosity that
marginalizes over the photometric redshift uncertainty of our candidate galaxies and incorporates the
impact of non-detections. We find a z = 12 luminosity function in good agreement with prior results,
and that the luminosity function normalization and UV luminosity density decline by a factor of ∼ 2.5
from z = 12 to z = 14. We discuss the possible implications of our results in the context of theoretical
models for evolution of the dark matter halo mass function.
Travis Hills' Endeavors in Minnesota: Fostering Environmental and Economic Pr...Travis Hills MN
Travis Hills of Minnesota developed a method to convert waste into high-value dry fertilizer, significantly enriching soil quality. By providing farmers with a valuable resource derived from waste, Travis Hills helps enhance farm profitability while promoting environmental stewardship. Travis Hills' sustainable practices lead to cost savings and increased revenue for farmers by improving resource efficiency and reducing waste.
Remote Sensing and Computational, Evolutionary, Supercomputing, and Intellige...University of Maribor
Slides from talk:
Aleš Zamuda: Remote Sensing and Computational, Evolutionary, Supercomputing, and Intelligent Systems.
11th International Conference on Electrical, Electronics and Computer Engineering (IcETRAN), Niš, 3-6 June 2024
Inter-Society Networking Panel GRSS/MTT-S/CIS Panel Session: Promoting Connection and Cooperation
https://www.etran.rs/2024/en/home-english/
Richard's aventures in two entangled wonderlandsRichard Gill
Since the loophole-free Bell experiments of 2020 and the Nobel prizes in physics of 2022, critics of Bell's work have retreated to the fortress of super-determinism. Now, super-determinism is a derogatory word - it just means "determinism". Palmer, Hance and Hossenfelder argue that quantum mechanics and determinism are not incompatible, using a sophisticated mathematical construction based on a subtle thinning of allowed states and measurements in quantum mechanics, such that what is left appears to make Bell's argument fail, without altering the empirical predictions of quantum mechanics. I think however that it is a smoke screen, and the slogan "lost in math" comes to my mind. I will discuss some other recent disproofs of Bell's theorem using the language of causality based on causal graphs. Causal thinking is also central to law and justice. I will mention surprising connections to my work on serial killer nurse cases, in particular the Dutch case of Lucia de Berk and the current UK case of Lucy Letby.
The ability to recreate computational results with minimal effort and actionable metrics provides a solid foundation for scientific research and software development. When people can replicate an analysis at the touch of a button using open-source software, open data, and methods to assess and compare proposals, it significantly eases verification of results, engagement with a diverse range of contributors, and progress. However, we have yet to fully achieve this; there are still many sociotechnical frictions.
Inspired by David Donoho's vision, this talk aims to revisit the three crucial pillars of frictionless reproducibility (data sharing, code sharing, and competitive challenges) with the perspective of deep software variability.
Our observation is that multiple layers — hardware, operating systems, third-party libraries, software versions, input data, compile-time options, and parameters — are subject to variability that exacerbates frictions but is also essential for achieving robust, generalizable results and fostering innovation. I will first review the literature, providing evidence of how the complex variability interactions across these layers affect qualitative and quantitative software properties, thereby complicating the reproduction and replication of scientific studies in various fields.
I will then present some software engineering and AI techniques that can support the strategic exploration of variability spaces. These include the use of abstractions and models (e.g., feature models), sampling strategies (e.g., uniform, random), cost-effective measurements (e.g., incremental build of software configurations), and dimensionality reduction methods (e.g., transfer learning, feature selection, software debloating).
I will finally argue that deep variability is both the problem and solution of frictionless reproducibility, calling the software science community to develop new methods and tools to manage variability and foster reproducibility in software systems.
Exposé invité Journées Nationales du GDR GPL 2024
Salas, V. (2024) "John of St. Thomas (Poinsot) on the Science of Sacred Theol...Studia Poinsotiana
I Introduction
II Subalternation and Theology
III Theology and Dogmatic Declarations
IV The Mixed Principles of Theology
V Virtual Revelation: The Unity of Theology
VI Theology as a Natural Science
VII Theology’s Certitude
VIII Conclusion
Notes
Bibliography
All the contents are fully attributable to the author, Doctor Victor Salas. Should you wish to get this text republished, get in touch with the author or the editorial committee of the Studia Poinsotiana. Insofar as possible, we will be happy to broker your contact.
ESR spectroscopy in liquid food and beverages.pptxPRIYANKA PATEL
With increasing population, people need to rely on packaged food stuffs. Packaging of food materials requires the preservation of food. There are various methods for the treatment of food to preserve them and irradiation treatment of food is one of them. It is the most common and the most harmless method for the food preservation as it does not alter the necessary micronutrients of food materials. Although irradiated food doesn’t cause any harm to the human health but still the quality assessment of food is required to provide consumers with necessary information about the food. ESR spectroscopy is the most sophisticated way to investigate the quality of the food and the free radicals induced during the processing of the food. ESR spin trapping technique is useful for the detection of highly unstable radicals in the food. The antioxidant capability of liquid food and beverages in mainly performed by spin trapping technique.
ISI 2024: Application Form (Extended), Exam Date (Out), EligibilitySciAstra
The Indian Statistical Institute (ISI) has extended its application deadline for 2024 admissions to April 2. Known for its excellence in statistics and related fields, ISI offers a range of programs from Bachelor's to Junior Research Fellowships. The admission test is scheduled for May 12, 2024. Eligibility varies by program, generally requiring a background in Mathematics and English for undergraduate courses and specific degrees for postgraduate and research positions. Application fees are ₹1500 for male general category applicants and ₹1000 for females. Applications are open to Indian and OCI candidates.
What is greenhouse gasses and how many gasses are there to affect the Earth.moosaasad1975
What are greenhouse gasses how they affect the earth and its environment what is the future of the environment and earth how the weather and the climate effects.
Observation of Io’s Resurfacing via Plume Deposition Using Ground-based Adapt...Sérgio Sacani
Since volcanic activity was first discovered on Io from Voyager images in 1979, changes
on Io’s surface have been monitored from both spacecraft and ground-based telescopes.
Here, we present the highest spatial resolution images of Io ever obtained from a groundbased telescope. These images, acquired by the SHARK-VIS instrument on the Large
Binocular Telescope, show evidence of a major resurfacing event on Io’s trailing hemisphere. When compared to the most recent spacecraft images, the SHARK-VIS images
show that a plume deposit from a powerful eruption at Pillan Patera has covered part
of the long-lived Pele plume deposit. Although this type of resurfacing event may be common on Io, few have been detected due to the rarity of spacecraft visits and the previously low spatial resolution available from Earth-based telescopes. The SHARK-VIS instrument ushers in a new era of high resolution imaging of Io’s surface using adaptive
optics at visible wavelengths.
Mudde & Rovira Kaltwasser. - Populism - a very short introduction [2017].pdf
“Quantified Surgery: Personalizing your Surgery”
1. “Quantified Surgery:
Personalizing your Surgery”
Minimally Invasive Surgery Week
Society of Laparoendoscopic Surgeons Annual Meeting 2017
Future Technology Session
San Francisco, CA
September 9, 2017
Dr. Larry Smarr
Director, California Institute for Telecommunications and Information Technology
Harry E. Gruber Professor,
Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering
Jacobs School of Engineering, UCSD
http://lsmarr.calit2.net
1
2. Abstract
With high resolution MRI/CAT scans of patients prior to surgery now fairly routine, it should be able to provide the
surgeon with a detailed 3D “transparent patient” to guide pre-surgical planning and perhaps even be used in the OR to
provide “situational awareness” to the surgery team. To test this hypothesis, we carried out this process for a sigmoid
colon resection surgery in the UC San Diego Jacobs Medical Center on November 29, 2016. Both volumetric
visualization and 3D organ segmentation of the patient’s abdomen were created and viewed by the surgeon prior to the
surgery. The da Vinci XI surgical robot enabled the surgical team to view both the 3D and the internal camera on large
screens in the OR. Finally, time series of biomarkers for both blood, stool, and microbiome were obtained before and
after the surgery, providing a view into the body’s reaction to the surgery.
4. I Have Been Tracking My Internal Biomarkers For A Decade
To Understand My Body’s Dynamics
My Quarterly
Blood Draw
Calit2 64 Megapixel VROOM
Calit2 64 Megapixel VROOM
5. Only One of My Blood Measurements
Was Far Out of Range--Indicating Chronic Inflammation
Normal Range <1 mg/L
27x Upper Limit
Complex Reactive Protein (CRP) is a Blood Biomarker
for Detecting Presence of Inflammation
Episodic Peaks in Inflammation
Followed by Spontaneous Drops
6. Adding Stool Tests Revealed
Oscillatory Behavior in an Immune Variable Which is Antibacterial
Normal Range
<7.3 µg/mL
124x Upper Limit for Healthy
Lactoferrin is a Protein Shed from Neutrophils -
An Antibacterial that Sequesters Iron
Typical
Lactoferrin Value for
Active Inflammatory
Bowel Disease
(IBD)
7. Descending Colon
Sigmoid Colon
Threading Iliac Arteries
Major Kink
Confirming the IBD (Colonic Crohn’s) Hypothesis:
Finding the “Smoking Gun” with MRI Imaging
I Obtained the MRI DICOM Slices
From UCSD Medical Services
and Converted to Interactive 3D
Working With Calit2 Staff
Transverse Colon
Liver
Small Intestine
Diseased Sigmoid Colon
Cross Section
MRI Jan 2012
Severe Colon
Wall Swelling
8. MRI 2d DICOM Slices Converted to 3d Volumetric Imaging
and Sigmoid Colon 3d Printed
Descending Colon
Possible Fistula
3d software: Jurgen Schulze, Calit2, UCSD
3d printing: Philip Weber, Calit2, UCSD
9. 3D Volumetric Visualization From MRI
In Calit2 Virtual Reality StarCAVE
3D Volumetric
Visualization
Created by
Calit2’s Jurgen
Schulze
from January
2012 MRI
10. Full Body CAT Scan at mm Resolution, Including Virtual Colonoscopy
June 2016 Convinced Me Time Had Come for Surgery
No Air
Source: June 2016
Dr. Harvey Eisenberg,
Body Scan Intl., Irvine, CA
11. Slice Through Sigmoid Colon
Reveals Thick Walls and Very Narrow Lumen
4.2mm
13.3mm
16.4mm
Source: Smarr MRI Oct. 25, 2016
Reading by Cynthia Santillan,
MD Radiologist, UCSD
Normal opening (bright yellow) is 40mm,
so mine is 1/10 the diameter it should be.
Normal wall thickness (dark yellow)
is 3mm, so wall thickness is 4-5 times
as thick as it should be.
13. From Quantified Self to Quantified Surgery:
Converting MRI Slices to 3D Organ Segmentation for Surgical Pre-Planning
MRI Slice from Dr. Cynthia Santillan 3D Organ Segmentation Made by Dr. Jurgen Schulze
from Dr. Santillan’s 150-Slice MRI
Images of Dr. Smarr’s Abdomen
To Support Sigmoid Colon Resection Surgery
14. Pre-Surgical Planning in QI Virtual Reality:
Using Virtual Reality As Input for Positioning The Two Resection Cuts
Colon visualization by Jurgen Schulze, Calit2;
Photo credit Tom DeFanti, Calit2
Surgeon Sonia Ramamoorthy, MD
in Calit2 Virtual Reality CAVE
Friday November 25, 2016
15. Diseased Sigmoid Colon
is Sitting on Top of Bladder
Bladder
Sigmoid colon
Region to Investigate
Possible Fistula
Between
Sigmoid colon
and Bladder
Volumetric Visualization by Jurgen Schulze, Calit2
16. Key Outcomes
of 3D Presurgical Planning
• Three Specific Problem Areas Discovered:
– Sigmoid Has Kinks at Both Ends
– Sigmoid Colon is Sitting on Bladder
– Splenic Flexure Colon Has Folds and is Attached to Spleen
• Led to Decisions About Surgical Procedures:
– Location of Ports Were Changed on Body
– Sigmoid Colon Resection End Points Were Determined
– Extra Time Will Be Needed Near Spleen
19. The Vision for Integrating Individualized
Radiological Imaging and Robotic Surgery is 30 Years Old
1988 Slide from
Rick Satava, MD
20. QI Collaboration with Radiology, GI, and Surgery
to Support Sigmoid Colon Resection
UC San Diego Health Communications Planning Press Release Early March
21. Using QI Organ Segmentation in Jacobs OR
on Tuesday November 29, 2016
Patient Smarr
With da Vinci Robot
Arms Inside Him
OR Team Using Large Screens
To Watch Dr. Schulze’s da Vinci Images
Dr. Ramamoorthy Operating
Da Vinci Xi Robot During Surgery
Dr. Schulze Rotating 3D Organs To Match Up
With da Vinci Arms and Internal Camera
22. Dr. Ramamoorthy Using Interactive 3D Anatomy in UCSD Jacobs OR
For Resection of Sigmoid Colon, Which is Resting on Top of Bladder
23. Dr. Ramamoorthy’s Use of 3D Interactive Anatomy
To Guide Surgical Team on Site For Bowel Division
24. Dr. William Sandborn Using Colonoscope in OR
To Examine Stapled Anastomosis
Dr. William Sandborn Performing Colonoscopy
While da Vinci Observes from Inside Abdomen
Dr. Santi Horgan, Director of Minimal Invasive Surgery,
Pointing to Stapled Anastomosis
25. Dr. Kurisu Using Oculus Rift Virtual Reality
to Observe 360 Degree Time Lapse of Dr. Smarr’s Surgery
Jurgen Schulze Showing Dr. Mike Kurisu
How to Use
an Oculus Rift Virtual Reality Headset
Jurgen Schulze Used 360 Degree Camera
To Record Time Lapse Movie of Surgery
28. hs-CRP Provided a Biomarker
of Reduced Inflammation Following Surgery
Surgery
Normal Range <1 mg/L
29. EGG Array in UCSD Professor Todd Coleman’s Lab
Experiment with PhD Student Armen Gharibans
2 Days After Surgery 2 Weeks After Surgery1 Week Before Surgery
30. GI Activity 24 to 72 Hours After Surgery
GI Hyper-Activity Passed Gas
1st Bowel Movement
2nd Night of Sleep 3rd Night of Sleep
31. Quantified Recovery (Steps Walked Per Day) -
Recovered to Pre-Surgery Level in Two Weeks
10,000
Steps
Surgery
LeftJMC
5 Miles
Per Day
Dec 14
Nov 29
32. Sonia Ramamoorthy, MD Explains
How These Technology Injections Changed Her Surgical Practice
http://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/feature/visualizing_the_future_of_surgery
Video Created by UC San Diego Health Marketing and Communications
Editor's Notes
Mike: Mention ERAS
I really like this slide as it truly illustrates that Larry gets the big picture.
I asked him to maximize all his healing potential before surgery.
He wanted to optimize the mind/body/spirit aspect.
LARRY TALKING
Mike did not miss out though. Jurgen thought ahead of time and recorded in 3D with 360 camera in operating room.
Mike reliving what it was like in surgery room