Slides to accompany Bill Drewett's talk at Bristol Vineyard on 29th September 2013. Philippians - Part 5.

1. Servants of the Servant
Paul’s letter to the Philippians

2. Now I appeal to Euodia and Syntyche.
Please, because you belong to the Lord,
settle your disagreement. And I ask you,
my true partner, to help these two women,
for they worked hard with me in telling
others the Good News. They worked along
with Clement and the rest of my co-
workers, whose names are written in the
Book of Life.
Philippians 4: 2 – 3

3. “…The needs were very varied - from
alcoholism and protection from
enemies to cars that needed repair.
Folks seemed to be drinking in the
presence of God while we prayed…”

4. Let a woman learn in silence with full
submission. I permit no woman to
teach or to have authority over a man;
she is to keep silent.
1 Timothy 2: 11 – 12 NRSV

5. Let a woman learn in silence with full
submission. I permit no woman to
teach or to have authority over a man;
she is to keep silent.
1 Timothy 2: 11 – 12 NRSV

6. συξίἡ ᾳ
hēsychia

7. First of all, then, I urge that supplications,
prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings
be made for everyone, for kings and all
who are in high positions, so that we may
lead a quiet and peaceable life in all
godliness and dignity.
9 verses earlier…
1 Timothy 2: 1 - 2 NRSV

8. Let a woman learn quietly and
peaceably with full submission. I
permit no woman to teach or to have
authority over a man; she is to be
quiet and peaceable.

9. I permit a woman neither to teach
nor to have authority over a man
1 Timothy 2: 12

10. α θεντε νὐ ῖ
authentein

11. Those who lived long ago in your holy land
you hated for their detestable practices,
their works of sorcery and unholy rites,
….these parents who murder helpless lives.
Wisdom of Solomon 12: 6

12. Those who lived long ago in your holy land
you hated for their detestable practices,
their works of sorcery and unholy rites,
….these parents who murder helpless lives.
Wisdom of Solomon 12: 6

13. “Therefore, if Saturn alone takes
planetary control of the soul and
dominates (authentesas) Mercury and
the moon…”
Ptolemy
Tetrabiblos 3.13

14. “I permit not a woman to teach,
neither to domineer over a man
[neque dominari in virum].”
Vulgate (C.4th
– 5th
)

15. “I suffer not a woman to teach, nor
usurp authority over a man.”
King James Version (1611)

16. “I don’t let women take over and tell
the men what to do.”
The Message (1993)

17. The NIV Committee on Bible
Translation (1965-1983)
• Larry Walker
• Robert Preus
• Ralph Earle
• Burton L. Goddard
• R. Laird Harris
• Earl S. Kalland
• Richard Longenecker
• Robert Mounce
• Stephen W. Paine,
• Kenneth L. Barker
• Ronald Youngblood
• William J. Martin.
• John H. Stek,
• John C. Wenger
• Marten H. Woudstra

18. Let a woman learn quietly and
peaceably with full submission. I
permit no woman to teach or to
dominate a man; she is to be quiet and
peaceable.

19. to teach or to dominate

20. to teach in order to
dominate

21. …and where thieves do not
break in and steal.
Matthew 6: 20

22. Let a woman learn quietly and
peaceably with full submission. I
permit no woman to teach in order to
dominate a man; she is to be quiet and
peaceable.

26. ‘The biggest problem with interpreting 1
Timothy 2: 11-15 as excluding women
from teaching roles in the church is that
Paul clearly commended women for such
roles, even though these roles made
them far more prominent and equal to
men than they would have been in
Judaism in this period.’
Craig S. Keener
Paul, Women & Wives

27. •v.1 Phoebe ‘Deacon’
•v.3 Priscilla ‘Minister’
•v.7 Junia ‘Apostle’
Romans 16

28. But Saul began to destroy the
church. Going from house to
house, he dragged off both men
and women and put them in
prison.
Acts 8: 3

29. ‘I would have given the church my
head, my hand, and my heart. But
the church would not have them.’
Florence Nightingale

30. ‘If there is any one generalization that
can be made about single women
missionaries and their ministries, it is
perhaps their bent for difficult
pioneer work. The more difficult and
dangerous the work, the higher the
ratio of women to men.’
J. Herbert Kane