Tom Winstanley, Vice President of NTT DATA UK, presented on the intersection of AI and experience design in financial services. He hypothesized that digital-only financial products providing outstanding customer experiences through fully automated AI back-office systems could be the "holy grail" for fintech companies. However, participants at an NTT DATA meetup argued against this, noting that financial services are complex and challengers must have laser-focused value propositions beyond just experience and AI in order to succeed. Winstanley concluded that while experience and AI are important, the future of fintech remains unwritten.