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(01 of 17) Dialogue about Ellen White's
Statements Regarding โ€œAmalgamationโ€
Background info:
In July 2020, A Seventh-day Adventist Christian sent me (Jon Dorsett) a
WhatsApp message of a post that was made in a Facebook Group.
The post accused Ellen White of making racist remarks about blacks.
I replied to the post so that Seventh-day Adventists and non-
Adventists who are unfamiliar with the true meaning of White's
Statements would not be misled. I have chosen to leave the
individual responsible for the FB post anonymous.
I have made minor edits to my response such as removing the words
โ€œIn conclusionโ€ from the opening sentence of slide #11 and other
formatting changes (bold, underline etc). Please pray before reading.
(02 of 17) โ€œAnonymousโ€ posted:
This was what the pioneer or say the prophetess of the SDA church wrote. No
disrespect to SDAs. Just pointing out what she wrote. Your thoughts.
(03 of 17) My Reply:
Good day โ€œAnonymousโ€. Correction.
What you have posted is not simply what the Christian author, Ellen White wrote, but what
you have, in fact posted is a screenshot from the following website:
http://www.1timothy4-13.com/index.html.
That screenshot contains the website author's "interpretation" of what she wrote.
The website author puts his/her understanding and commentary on her writings. The
question to now ask is, does the author (of the website) give a correct interpretation?
The word amalgamation means mixture. Ellen White did not say amalgamation of man
"with" beast, which superficial and biased readers will imply, but what she did in fact say
was amalgamation of man "and" beast which means "there was amalgamation of man and
there was amalgamation of beast".
(04 of 17) My Reply:
Now let's be like the Bereans and go to the scriptures to see if we can find
any truth in Ellen White's claim of amalgamation of man.
1) Genesis 3:14-15 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou
hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the
field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy
life: (15) And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy
seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
All prayerful and diligent Bible students will agree that God intended for there
to be a separation/enmity between the righteous (seed of the woman) and
the unrighteous (seed of the 'serpent' or those who follow Satan's rebellion
against God).
(05 of 17) My Reply:
2) Gen 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name
Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
All prayerful and diligent Bible students will agree that from a reading of the entire
chapters of Genesis chapters 4 and 5, we can discern a period in Earth's history
where there emerged two opposing genealogies. The first were the generation of
the rebellious Cain. The second were the generations of Adam's third son, Seth.
Genesis 4:26 outlines that it was after Seth's son Enos was born that men began to
call upon the name of the Lord. In the Young's Literal Translation, it reads "And to
Seth, to him also a son hath been born, and he calleth his name Enos; then a
beginning was made of preaching in the name of Jehovah."
Those who preached in the Name of Jehovah were known as the sons of God.
This takes us to Genesis chapter 6.
(06 of 17) My Reply:
3) Genesis 6:1-2 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply
on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, (2)
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair;
and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Now to debunk the false teaching that fallen angels procreated with
women, which some Christians actually teach. This error is cleared
up when we rightly understand that the sons of God being referred
to in Genesis 6 was speaking of the godly line of Seth. They were
intended to remain separate from the descendants of Cain, but they
did not. The daughters of men refers to the ungodly women who
came from the line of Cain.
(07 of 17) My Reply:
Here is the amalgamation of man that White speaks about. The
mixture of these two groups of people - the righteous with the
unrighteous. God intended there to always remain a distinction
between the two but when the sons of Seth intermarried with the
daughters of Cain, the result was a turning away from the ways of
God and a great increase in evil and wickedness, which led to the
flood.
White points out that during this period of wickedness, men were
also cross breeding species of animals to create hybrids which God
never created.
(08 of 17) My Reply:
To conclude, I direct you, Anonymous, not to a biased
individual's website about Ellen White, but instead, I direct
you to a document that Ellen White did in fact produce
herself in relation to black people.
Please find three excerpts relevant to the nature of this
conversation copied and pasted below, followed by the link
to the complete work for anyone who desires to be a true
Berean and search with honesty and diligence.
(09 of 17) My Reply:
Excerpt #1: โ€œThe Lord Jesus came to our world to save men and women of
all nationalities. He died just as much for the colored people as for the white
race.โ€
Excerpt #2: The ignorant and the wise,the rich and the poor, the heathen
and the slave, white or black--Jesus paid the purchase money for their souls.
If they believe on Him, His cleansing blood is applied to them. The black
man's name is written in the book of life beside the white man's. All are one
in Christ. Birth,station, nationality, or color cannot elevate or degrade men.
The character makes the man. If a red man, a Chinaman,or an African gives
his heart to God, in obedience and faith, Jesus loves him none the less for
his color. He calls him his well-beloved brother.
(10 of 17) My Reply:
Excerpt #3: Believers, whether white or black, are branches of the True Vine.
There is to be no special heaven for the white man and another heaven for the
black man. We are all to be saved through the same grace, all to enter the same
heaven at last. Then why not act like rational beings, and overcome our unlikeness
to Christ? The same God that blesses us as His sons and daughters blesses the
colored race. Those who have the faith that works by love and purifies the soul will
look with compassion and love upon the colored people. Many of those who have
had every advantage, who have regarded themselves as superior to the colored
people because their skin was white, will find that many of the colored race will go
into heaven before them.
Link (or source from which the previous 3 excerpts were taken):
https://documents.adventistarchives.org/Books/SW1898.pdf
(11 of 17) My Reply:
When looking for an accurate interpretation of what an author meant, it is always best to go to the writings of
that author.
Elsewhere, Ellen White speaking about "the race of Cain" outlines:
For some time the two classes remained separate. The race of Cain, spreading from the place of their first
settlement, dispersed over the plains and valleys where the children of Seth had dwelt; and the latter, in
order to escape from their contaminating influence, withdrew to the mountains, and there made their home.
So long as this separation continued, they maintained the worship of God in its purity. But in the lapse of
time they ventured, little by little, to mingle with the inhabitants of the valleys. This association was
productive of the worst results. "The sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair." The
children of Seth, attracted by the beauty of the daughters of Cain's descendants, displeased the Lord by
intermarrying with them. Many of the worshipers of God were beguiled into sin by the allurements that
were now constantly before them, and they lost their peculiar, holy character. Mingling with the depraved,
they became like them in spirit and in deeds; the restrictions of the seventh commandment were
disregarded, "and they took them wives of all which they chose." The children of Seth went "in the way of
Cain" (Jud_1:11); they fixed their minds upon worldly prosperity and enjoyment and neglected the
commandments of the Lord. Men "did not like to retain God in their knowledge;" they "became vain in their
imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened." Rom_1:21. Therefore "God gave them over to a mind
void of judgment." Rom_1:28, margin. Sin spread abroad in the earth like a deadly leprosy. {PP 81.2}
(12 of 17) My Reply:
She also wrote elsewhere: โ€œThose who profess to be
followers of Christ . . . [and have] union with the
world, the character of Godโ€™s people becomes tarnished,
and through amalgamation with the corrupt, the fine
gold becomes dimโ€ (Review and Herald, Aug. 23, 1892).
By reading these posts that I've shared previously, one can
tell that the original screenshot which was shared is
therefore, incorrect.
(13 of 17) โ€œAnonymousโ€ posted:
โ€œJon Dorsett...your explanation
disregards the known facts as to
what she actually wrote. I say that
with respect to you.โ€
(14 of 17) My Reply:
โ€œAnonymousโ€, I do believe that if you carefully review what I wrote, you will find
that I did not disregard what White wrote, however, I will still gladly apologize for
not expressing my ideas as clearly as I could have. I will attempt to do so now.
These words that you have shared via your picture,
"The Negro race is not human" were not written by Ellen G. White. They are the
words of the author of the website that your post was "screen-shotted" from.
Someone has underlined in red the words "certain races of men" (in your first
photo). The website author goes on to say in the (third) photo that White has
not, in her Writings informed us as to what she meant by the words "certain
races of men".
(15 of 17) My Reply:
If the website author actually took the time to research her writings
in a responsible way, he would discover that she does in fact
explain what is intended by the words "certain races of men" since
elsewhere she wrote:
"For some time the two classes remained separate. The race of
Cain, spreading from the place of their first settlement, dispersed
over the plains and valleys where the children of Seth had dwelt;
and the latter, in order to escape from their contaminating influence,
withdrew to the mountains, and there made their home."
(Source: Patriarchs and Prophets page 82)
(16 of 17) My Reply:
The context shows that in her time, it was not uncommon to use the word โ€œraceโ€
synonymously to the word genealogy. She is speaking to the mixture of godly persons
with ungodly persons.
You hinge your argument on the website author's following words: "She told it to her
husband, he made it known to Elder Ingraham and he divulged the secret that Sister
White had seen that God never made the Darkey".
Now let's be honest, how credible is that? It is a prime example of he-say, she-say. How
convenient is it that the website author provides absolutely no source. He has no book for
you and I to turn to to read where we can find sister White writing the statement. Just a
rumour that she told it to someone, who told it to someone else, who made it public.
What I have presented to you are multiple sources or her own writings where she
demonstrates no racism but declares that God made all people whether their skin be black
or white.
(17 of 17) My Reply:
A Berean does not rely on rumor or sensationalism to arrive at a conclusion but
facts. I have presented you with such. Please read the sources for yourself and
furthermore, please remember the famous saying about hearing things "from the
horse's mouth". This is the safest way to arrive at truth instead of going on wild
goose chases when you cannot find a direct quote from the person who is being
accused.
Satisfied that I have done my best I will rest my case here and let the Holy Spirit
work upon honest, diligent and humble minds who are willing to investigate with
open minds and who are mature enough not to be swayed by the thoughts of
others, not even myself.
Check the sources. Thank you for the post. It has been edifying to research and
comment on the topic.

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Dialogue on Ellen White's Statements on Amalgamation

  • 1. (01 of 17) Dialogue about Ellen White's Statements Regarding โ€œAmalgamationโ€ Background info: In July 2020, A Seventh-day Adventist Christian sent me (Jon Dorsett) a WhatsApp message of a post that was made in a Facebook Group. The post accused Ellen White of making racist remarks about blacks. I replied to the post so that Seventh-day Adventists and non- Adventists who are unfamiliar with the true meaning of White's Statements would not be misled. I have chosen to leave the individual responsible for the FB post anonymous. I have made minor edits to my response such as removing the words โ€œIn conclusionโ€ from the opening sentence of slide #11 and other formatting changes (bold, underline etc). Please pray before reading.
  • 2. (02 of 17) โ€œAnonymousโ€ posted: This was what the pioneer or say the prophetess of the SDA church wrote. No disrespect to SDAs. Just pointing out what she wrote. Your thoughts.
  • 3. (03 of 17) My Reply: Good day โ€œAnonymousโ€. Correction. What you have posted is not simply what the Christian author, Ellen White wrote, but what you have, in fact posted is a screenshot from the following website: http://www.1timothy4-13.com/index.html. That screenshot contains the website author's "interpretation" of what she wrote. The website author puts his/her understanding and commentary on her writings. The question to now ask is, does the author (of the website) give a correct interpretation? The word amalgamation means mixture. Ellen White did not say amalgamation of man "with" beast, which superficial and biased readers will imply, but what she did in fact say was amalgamation of man "and" beast which means "there was amalgamation of man and there was amalgamation of beast".
  • 4. (04 of 17) My Reply: Now let's be like the Bereans and go to the scriptures to see if we can find any truth in Ellen White's claim of amalgamation of man. 1) Genesis 3:14-15 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: (15) And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. All prayerful and diligent Bible students will agree that God intended for there to be a separation/enmity between the righteous (seed of the woman) and the unrighteous (seed of the 'serpent' or those who follow Satan's rebellion against God).
  • 5. (05 of 17) My Reply: 2) Gen 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD. All prayerful and diligent Bible students will agree that from a reading of the entire chapters of Genesis chapters 4 and 5, we can discern a period in Earth's history where there emerged two opposing genealogies. The first were the generation of the rebellious Cain. The second were the generations of Adam's third son, Seth. Genesis 4:26 outlines that it was after Seth's son Enos was born that men began to call upon the name of the Lord. In the Young's Literal Translation, it reads "And to Seth, to him also a son hath been born, and he calleth his name Enos; then a beginning was made of preaching in the name of Jehovah." Those who preached in the Name of Jehovah were known as the sons of God. This takes us to Genesis chapter 6.
  • 6. (06 of 17) My Reply: 3) Genesis 6:1-2 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, (2) That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. Now to debunk the false teaching that fallen angels procreated with women, which some Christians actually teach. This error is cleared up when we rightly understand that the sons of God being referred to in Genesis 6 was speaking of the godly line of Seth. They were intended to remain separate from the descendants of Cain, but they did not. The daughters of men refers to the ungodly women who came from the line of Cain.
  • 7. (07 of 17) My Reply: Here is the amalgamation of man that White speaks about. The mixture of these two groups of people - the righteous with the unrighteous. God intended there to always remain a distinction between the two but when the sons of Seth intermarried with the daughters of Cain, the result was a turning away from the ways of God and a great increase in evil and wickedness, which led to the flood. White points out that during this period of wickedness, men were also cross breeding species of animals to create hybrids which God never created.
  • 8. (08 of 17) My Reply: To conclude, I direct you, Anonymous, not to a biased individual's website about Ellen White, but instead, I direct you to a document that Ellen White did in fact produce herself in relation to black people. Please find three excerpts relevant to the nature of this conversation copied and pasted below, followed by the link to the complete work for anyone who desires to be a true Berean and search with honesty and diligence.
  • 9. (09 of 17) My Reply: Excerpt #1: โ€œThe Lord Jesus came to our world to save men and women of all nationalities. He died just as much for the colored people as for the white race.โ€ Excerpt #2: The ignorant and the wise,the rich and the poor, the heathen and the slave, white or black--Jesus paid the purchase money for their souls. If they believe on Him, His cleansing blood is applied to them. The black man's name is written in the book of life beside the white man's. All are one in Christ. Birth,station, nationality, or color cannot elevate or degrade men. The character makes the man. If a red man, a Chinaman,or an African gives his heart to God, in obedience and faith, Jesus loves him none the less for his color. He calls him his well-beloved brother.
  • 10. (10 of 17) My Reply: Excerpt #3: Believers, whether white or black, are branches of the True Vine. There is to be no special heaven for the white man and another heaven for the black man. We are all to be saved through the same grace, all to enter the same heaven at last. Then why not act like rational beings, and overcome our unlikeness to Christ? The same God that blesses us as His sons and daughters blesses the colored race. Those who have the faith that works by love and purifies the soul will look with compassion and love upon the colored people. Many of those who have had every advantage, who have regarded themselves as superior to the colored people because their skin was white, will find that many of the colored race will go into heaven before them. Link (or source from which the previous 3 excerpts were taken): https://documents.adventistarchives.org/Books/SW1898.pdf
  • 11. (11 of 17) My Reply: When looking for an accurate interpretation of what an author meant, it is always best to go to the writings of that author. Elsewhere, Ellen White speaking about "the race of Cain" outlines: For some time the two classes remained separate. The race of Cain, spreading from the place of their first settlement, dispersed over the plains and valleys where the children of Seth had dwelt; and the latter, in order to escape from their contaminating influence, withdrew to the mountains, and there made their home. So long as this separation continued, they maintained the worship of God in its purity. But in the lapse of time they ventured, little by little, to mingle with the inhabitants of the valleys. This association was productive of the worst results. "The sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair." The children of Seth, attracted by the beauty of the daughters of Cain's descendants, displeased the Lord by intermarrying with them. Many of the worshipers of God were beguiled into sin by the allurements that were now constantly before them, and they lost their peculiar, holy character. Mingling with the depraved, they became like them in spirit and in deeds; the restrictions of the seventh commandment were disregarded, "and they took them wives of all which they chose." The children of Seth went "in the way of Cain" (Jud_1:11); they fixed their minds upon worldly prosperity and enjoyment and neglected the commandments of the Lord. Men "did not like to retain God in their knowledge;" they "became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened." Rom_1:21. Therefore "God gave them over to a mind void of judgment." Rom_1:28, margin. Sin spread abroad in the earth like a deadly leprosy. {PP 81.2}
  • 12. (12 of 17) My Reply: She also wrote elsewhere: โ€œThose who profess to be followers of Christ . . . [and have] union with the world, the character of Godโ€™s people becomes tarnished, and through amalgamation with the corrupt, the fine gold becomes dimโ€ (Review and Herald, Aug. 23, 1892). By reading these posts that I've shared previously, one can tell that the original screenshot which was shared is therefore, incorrect.
  • 13. (13 of 17) โ€œAnonymousโ€ posted: โ€œJon Dorsett...your explanation disregards the known facts as to what she actually wrote. I say that with respect to you.โ€
  • 14. (14 of 17) My Reply: โ€œAnonymousโ€, I do believe that if you carefully review what I wrote, you will find that I did not disregard what White wrote, however, I will still gladly apologize for not expressing my ideas as clearly as I could have. I will attempt to do so now. These words that you have shared via your picture, "The Negro race is not human" were not written by Ellen G. White. They are the words of the author of the website that your post was "screen-shotted" from. Someone has underlined in red the words "certain races of men" (in your first photo). The website author goes on to say in the (third) photo that White has not, in her Writings informed us as to what she meant by the words "certain races of men".
  • 15. (15 of 17) My Reply: If the website author actually took the time to research her writings in a responsible way, he would discover that she does in fact explain what is intended by the words "certain races of men" since elsewhere she wrote: "For some time the two classes remained separate. The race of Cain, spreading from the place of their first settlement, dispersed over the plains and valleys where the children of Seth had dwelt; and the latter, in order to escape from their contaminating influence, withdrew to the mountains, and there made their home." (Source: Patriarchs and Prophets page 82)
  • 16. (16 of 17) My Reply: The context shows that in her time, it was not uncommon to use the word โ€œraceโ€ synonymously to the word genealogy. She is speaking to the mixture of godly persons with ungodly persons. You hinge your argument on the website author's following words: "She told it to her husband, he made it known to Elder Ingraham and he divulged the secret that Sister White had seen that God never made the Darkey". Now let's be honest, how credible is that? It is a prime example of he-say, she-say. How convenient is it that the website author provides absolutely no source. He has no book for you and I to turn to to read where we can find sister White writing the statement. Just a rumour that she told it to someone, who told it to someone else, who made it public. What I have presented to you are multiple sources or her own writings where she demonstrates no racism but declares that God made all people whether their skin be black or white.
  • 17. (17 of 17) My Reply: A Berean does not rely on rumor or sensationalism to arrive at a conclusion but facts. I have presented you with such. Please read the sources for yourself and furthermore, please remember the famous saying about hearing things "from the horse's mouth". This is the safest way to arrive at truth instead of going on wild goose chases when you cannot find a direct quote from the person who is being accused. Satisfied that I have done my best I will rest my case here and let the Holy Spirit work upon honest, diligent and humble minds who are willing to investigate with open minds and who are mature enough not to be swayed by the thoughts of others, not even myself. Check the sources. Thank you for the post. It has been edifying to research and comment on the topic.