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Debating Scottish 
Independence 
Aberdeen University - 4th September 2014 
By Tony Koutsoumbos
Contents 
 Public speaking v Debating 
 How to judge a debate 
 What makes a great debater 
2
Public speaking v Debating 
What is the difference between public 
speaking and debating? 
3
Public speaking v Debating 
Monologue v Dialogue Impact v Scrutiny 
Delivery v Content Like v Agree 
4
Public speaking v Debating 
Does this mean that arguments mean 
more than personality in a debate? 
If the format allows for cross-examination 
of the arguments, then 
yes… 
A bad argument like counterfeit 
currency only reveals itself under close 
examination. 
5
Public speaking v Debating 
Is this true of the televised debates 
between Alastair Darling and Alex 
Salmond? 
Debate #1 Debate #2 
Arguments Personality Total Arguments Personality Total 
Salmond 40 47 37 56 54 65 
Darling 51 32 44 36 32 26 
Unknown 9 14 15 8 14 9 
6 
Source: snap public opinion polls of Scottish voters taken after both debates
How to judge a debate 
The post debate polls tell us whose 
arguments the public preferred, but how 
can we analyse the quality of the 
arguments themselves? 
7
How to judge a debate 
Golden rule: 
• Burden of proof lies with the person 
proposing a change from the status quo 
In other words: 
• Alex Salmond has to prove that leaving 
the UK would be best for Scotland 
• Alastair Darling only needs to prove it 
wouldn’t – he doesn’t need to prove 
staying in would be best for Scotland (but 
it does help) 
8
How to judge a debate 
What to look for: 
 Definitions 
◦ Do both sides agree what they are debating? 
 Priorities 
◦ How are they measuring the impact of 
independence? 
 Analysis 
◦ Are they making arguments or assertions? 
 Engagement 
◦ Are they listening and responding to each other? 
9
Analysis of Debate #1 
Watch the highlights and draw your own 
conclusions: 
 Both agree social justice and economic prosperity 
are top priorities 
 They clash on democracy, currency union, and 
Scotland’s ability to succeed alone 
 Both present their own arguments well enough, but 
respond to each other with derision and personal 
attacks 
10
Analysis of Debate #2 
Now watch the highlights of the second 
debate 
 Priority now is protecting public spending on 
welfare and NHS 
 They clash on whether UK government policy or 
uncertainty over currency is biggest threat 
 Salmond provides analysis to explain why Scotland 
will keep the pound– Darling responds with 
increased aggression 
11
Verdict after both debates 
 Salmond learnt his lesson after the poor showing at 
the first debate and made a much greater to analyse 
and respond to Darling’s arguments 
 Darling became complacent after victory of first 
debate and re-iterated exactly the same arguments, 
while becoming increasingly hostile 
 A debate judge would most likely reach the same 
conclusion as Scottish public in both debates 
12
What makes a great debater 
13 
What steps can we take to ensure we 
repeat everything Alex Salmond and Alistair 
Darling did right and avoid what they did 
wrong?
What makes a great debater 
 Introduce – say what you’re going to say 
 Define – your idea and your priorities 
 Explain – how you will apply your idea 
 Analyse – what makes it a good idea 
 Summarise – say what you’ve said 
14
Answering difficult questions 
Problem Solution Outcome 
Question Premise Response 
E.g. what is your plan 
B? 
Plan A (keeping the 
pound) is not an 
option since the UK 
government ruled it 
out and this is bad for 
the Scottish economy 
because… 
Why it is unlikely that 
the UK government 
will deny Scotland use 
of the pound. 
Why the Scottish 
economy will not 
suffer even if it does. 
15 
The key to answering a difficult question is to understand what is really being asked – this 
means addressing the assumptions behind the question (the premise) as well as the 
question itself. 
Note: if you can’t answer the question and you can’t prove it’s irrelevant to the debate, 
then you know it’s time to re-examine your argument.
Debating Do’s and Don’ts 
DO DON’T 
• Say what key points you are 
going to make before launching 
into them – makes it easier for 
audience to follow you 
• Take your time to clearly and 
slowly prove the few points 
most central to your argument 
• Analyse your opponent’s 
arguments for any weaknesses 
or inconsistencies 
• Address your questioner 
(opponent or audience) directly, 
politely, and by name 
• Fill your speech with ambiguous 
buzzwords and high rhetoric – 
you will only get away with it if 
your opponent is as bad as you 
• Try and cram the entire 
contents of Wikipedia into a five 
minute speech 
• Resort to personal attacks– only 
people who already agree with 
you will have any time for it 
• Point angrily at your questioner 
and definitely don’t dismiss their 
question as ‘stupid’ or 
‘nonsense’ 
16
Further Reading 
 An in-depth analysis of the first debate 
 The Future of Scotland and the UK 
 Aggregated opinion polls on 
referendum 
 Fact-checking the referendum debate 
You can find out more about my 
background and experience at 
www.debate-training.co.uk 
17

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Debating Scottish Independence

  • 1. Debating Scottish Independence Aberdeen University - 4th September 2014 By Tony Koutsoumbos
  • 2. Contents  Public speaking v Debating  How to judge a debate  What makes a great debater 2
  • 3. Public speaking v Debating What is the difference between public speaking and debating? 3
  • 4. Public speaking v Debating Monologue v Dialogue Impact v Scrutiny Delivery v Content Like v Agree 4
  • 5. Public speaking v Debating Does this mean that arguments mean more than personality in a debate? If the format allows for cross-examination of the arguments, then yes… A bad argument like counterfeit currency only reveals itself under close examination. 5
  • 6. Public speaking v Debating Is this true of the televised debates between Alastair Darling and Alex Salmond? Debate #1 Debate #2 Arguments Personality Total Arguments Personality Total Salmond 40 47 37 56 54 65 Darling 51 32 44 36 32 26 Unknown 9 14 15 8 14 9 6 Source: snap public opinion polls of Scottish voters taken after both debates
  • 7. How to judge a debate The post debate polls tell us whose arguments the public preferred, but how can we analyse the quality of the arguments themselves? 7
  • 8. How to judge a debate Golden rule: • Burden of proof lies with the person proposing a change from the status quo In other words: • Alex Salmond has to prove that leaving the UK would be best for Scotland • Alastair Darling only needs to prove it wouldn’t – he doesn’t need to prove staying in would be best for Scotland (but it does help) 8
  • 9. How to judge a debate What to look for:  Definitions ◦ Do both sides agree what they are debating?  Priorities ◦ How are they measuring the impact of independence?  Analysis ◦ Are they making arguments or assertions?  Engagement ◦ Are they listening and responding to each other? 9
  • 10. Analysis of Debate #1 Watch the highlights and draw your own conclusions:  Both agree social justice and economic prosperity are top priorities  They clash on democracy, currency union, and Scotland’s ability to succeed alone  Both present their own arguments well enough, but respond to each other with derision and personal attacks 10
  • 11. Analysis of Debate #2 Now watch the highlights of the second debate  Priority now is protecting public spending on welfare and NHS  They clash on whether UK government policy or uncertainty over currency is biggest threat  Salmond provides analysis to explain why Scotland will keep the pound– Darling responds with increased aggression 11
  • 12. Verdict after both debates  Salmond learnt his lesson after the poor showing at the first debate and made a much greater to analyse and respond to Darling’s arguments  Darling became complacent after victory of first debate and re-iterated exactly the same arguments, while becoming increasingly hostile  A debate judge would most likely reach the same conclusion as Scottish public in both debates 12
  • 13. What makes a great debater 13 What steps can we take to ensure we repeat everything Alex Salmond and Alistair Darling did right and avoid what they did wrong?
  • 14. What makes a great debater  Introduce – say what you’re going to say  Define – your idea and your priorities  Explain – how you will apply your idea  Analyse – what makes it a good idea  Summarise – say what you’ve said 14
  • 15. Answering difficult questions Problem Solution Outcome Question Premise Response E.g. what is your plan B? Plan A (keeping the pound) is not an option since the UK government ruled it out and this is bad for the Scottish economy because… Why it is unlikely that the UK government will deny Scotland use of the pound. Why the Scottish economy will not suffer even if it does. 15 The key to answering a difficult question is to understand what is really being asked – this means addressing the assumptions behind the question (the premise) as well as the question itself. Note: if you can’t answer the question and you can’t prove it’s irrelevant to the debate, then you know it’s time to re-examine your argument.
  • 16. Debating Do’s and Don’ts DO DON’T • Say what key points you are going to make before launching into them – makes it easier for audience to follow you • Take your time to clearly and slowly prove the few points most central to your argument • Analyse your opponent’s arguments for any weaknesses or inconsistencies • Address your questioner (opponent or audience) directly, politely, and by name • Fill your speech with ambiguous buzzwords and high rhetoric – you will only get away with it if your opponent is as bad as you • Try and cram the entire contents of Wikipedia into a five minute speech • Resort to personal attacks– only people who already agree with you will have any time for it • Point angrily at your questioner and definitely don’t dismiss their question as ‘stupid’ or ‘nonsense’ 16
  • 17. Further Reading  An in-depth analysis of the first debate  The Future of Scotland and the UK  Aggregated opinion polls on referendum  Fact-checking the referendum debate You can find out more about my background and experience at www.debate-training.co.uk 17

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