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Compliance, Cash andCompliance, Cash and
Reimbursement – Yes, YouReimbursement – Yes, You
Can Have All ThreeCan Have All Three
Miriam Lieber
and
Colette Weil
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
SeminarObjectivesSeminarObjectives
 Examine opportunities in operations and
marketing to build cash sales
 Discuss cash sales situation with
reimbursables
– Ex. wheelchair, oxygen and bed
 Review how to selectively use ABN
 Explore how to build cash sales mentality into
your operations and marketing efforts
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Current MarketplaceCurrent Marketplace
Operations
 Audit frenzy
 Compliance focus
 Competitive bidding
uncertainty
 Convoluted third party
payer contracting
– Smaller coverage
percentages
– More patient out of
pocket
Marketing
 Patient/consumer/
referral source
information paucity
 Clarity in
service/products offered
 Revenue diversification
 Media changes
 Data analysis for
revenue enhancement
 Strength of relationships
 Where to invest
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Patient (Consumer) ExpectationPatient (Consumer) Expectation
 Who defines patient expectation
– Third party payer
– Competitors
– Media
– You
 Patient vs. consumer view
– Patient managed, consumer responsible
 Other healthcare providers approach
– Cash up front
– Participating provider
– Service primarily
– Do not sell other items outside of service necessarily
(soft sell)
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Getting fromPatient toGetting fromPatient to
ConsumerConsumer
 What do other healthcare services do?
– Ask for the money upfront
– Contact info, email info, complete post card for
notification of service or event
 Approach as consumer and from
your consumer’s viewpoint
– Choice
– Referral driven or recommendation
– Services provided
– Education on what is paid for
– What other consumers purchase with primary item
• Why, how, when
– Selection, price, service mix
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Referral ExpectationReferral Expectation
 Satisfy patient
 No complaint calls to office
 Unaware of products/services to help patient
– Time/care/interest?
 Little time to spend on your issues
– Just wants patient taken care of
 Doesn’t want to be second guessed
 Doesn’t want to owe you anything!
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Educating Referral in ConsumerEducating Referral in Consumer
ChangesChanges
 Presentation is key!
– New products, new hope – cash expected
 Explain changing regulations
 Fewer dollars available from third party payers
 Increase in consumer’s financial responsibility
– Equates to increase in consumer’s desire for
knowledge
 Redirect consumer into understanding their
needs can be met if they are willing to pay
– Asking for the money up front is an absolute
necessity!
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Up Front Insurance Gathering =Up Front Insurance Gathering =
Educated IntakeEducated Intake
 Must verify insurance up front
 Solidify payment arrangements before
rendering service
– Even if patient has to wait
 Make educated decision about what to provide
patient
 Obtain medical necessity documentation at
intake
– Ensure payment
– Time to retrain staff and referral community
• After all, other health care providers simply expect
the cash!
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Asking forthe Money Is NotAsking forthe Money Is Not
TabooTaboo
 What’s good for the doctors is good for HME
 Expect cash
 Employ professional, matter-of-fact style
 Once you know how much to expect, you
know how much to collect up front
 If patient doesn’t pay, why render additional
supplies?
– Must check outstanding balance when patient
calls for supply refill
 If you don’t ask, you definitely won’t get!
– Human nature
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Legal Guidelines: Marketing to
Beneficiaries (“Benes”) – What You Can
Do
 May contact by telephone and email if
one of the following exists:
– Beneficiary has given written
permission
– Supplier previously provided covered
item to beneficiary and supplier is
contacting regarding covered item
– Supplier has furnished one covered
item in past 15 months
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Current Customers are Best
Source forMore Business
 Current referral sources change jobs and will
continue to refer
 Current customers refer – after 10 purchases, that
customer has referred 7 customers to you
 Regular customers are worth five to six times
more than anyone else
 Increasing a customer retention rate by only 5%
can boost the average customer net present value
by an astonishing 35% to 95% (Source: Bain & Company: Microsoft Business for Small
and Mid-Size Companies)
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
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CustomerService Easy Follow-CustomerService Easy Follow-
UpUp
 Gathering email at intake is critical
 Follow-up timing
 Personal letter, phone call, versus email
– Age dependent
 Complete post card for next notification
 Make sure you know where to find
customer/caregiver
– Next of kin – cell phone, email, text
 Reiterate promise/plan
– Follow-through is key!
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
How to Ask/Presentation is KeyHow to Ask/Presentation is Key
 CSR
– Start with one primary Medicare item
– Phone script
• See Tammy Zelenko’s Seminar (Increasing
Cash Flow through Cash Sales)
• Prepared follow-up method
–Letter/email/postcard
 Retail sales person
– Merchandise for easy demonstration
– Show items for need
• Testimonials
 Set incentive
– Monitor for one month - Track sales
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Cash Sales and ReimbursablesCash Sales and Reimbursables
 Hospital Beds
– Sheets
– Pillow
– Sheet lifter
– Egg Crate Cushion
– Bed tray/caddy
– Over the bed table
– Urinal
– Reacher
– Briefs
 Consumer approaches
– Checklist (BB&B)
– Testimonials and
examples
– Stories
– Visuals
– Staff picks
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Cash Sales and ReimbursablesCash Sales and Reimbursables
 Wheelchair
– Gel or Foam cushion
– Tray
– Underneath Pack
– Transfer board
– Ramp
– Bath items
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Cash Sales and ReimbursablesCash Sales and Reimbursables
 Oxygen
– Over the bed table
– Footrest
– Bed pillows
– Pedlar
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
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General Cash and reimbursableGeneral Cash and reimbursable
itemsitems
 Walker
– Pouch/utility
– Specialized tips
– Basket/pouch
– Tray
 Commode
 Shower chair
– Floor mat
– Hand held shower
– Grab bar
– Back scrubber
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Diabetic Supply Add-on SalesDiabetic Supply Add-on Sales
Item HCPCS Care Reimb. Cost Care Allow. MSRP
Home blood glucose monitor E0607 Y 70.16*
Test strips (50/box) A4253 Y 38.79* 33.43* KL
Lancets (100 ct) A4259 Y 12.66*
Heel/elbow protector N
Pedlar Exerciser N
Sugar free candy - assorted fruits N
Diabetic Lotion - 6 oz. N
Diabetic sock overcalf (size S,M,L) N
*Ceiling allowable
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Medicare Compliant Consumer
 It’s OK to have Medicare consumer buy non-
covered product
 If patient wants a Medicare covered item but
does not want Medicare billed, use ABN and
option 2
 Some are willing to pay after they are
informed of Medicare guidelines
– Transport chair example
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
How to Selectively Use ABNHow to Selectively Use ABN
 Patient choice
 Your protection
 Do not coerce
 Explain carefully
 No “blanket” or “generic” ABN but specific use
with legitimate payment doubt is acceptable
 Form is often completed incorrectly
– Use valid reason – script ok – preprinted
reason ok
– Audit for validity
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Existing Patient ValueExisting Patient Value
 Patient’s primary reimbursables
 New emphasis on total patient with consumer
needs over time/life
 Additional patient/family purchases
– Tracking cash purchases by customer #
– Sample of 10 patients, no CSR
• 10 patients with CSR contact
 Frequency of contact
 Average length of relationship
 Impact on cost analysis of grandfathering
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
Marketing forMaximumReturnMarketing forMaximumReturn
 Demographics and media matter
 Promotional incentive guidelines for
prospective and current Medicare patients,
$10 retail per item, $50 retail max per year
 Sales on cash items, bundling, free with
purchase
 Manufacturer donated items
 Valuable content to help in decision-making
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
What’s YourPlan?What’s YourPlan?
 Primary items/needs to tackle
 Assess target customers in database
 Determine what is the best method of contact for
your audience
 Lay out script
 Materials to be used
 Practice
 Incentive
 Test
 Measure
 Let it roll and count cash
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
SpeakerInformationSpeakerInformation
Miriam Lieber
President: Lieber Consulting
15030 Ventura Boulevard, #786
Sherman Oaks, California 91403
818-789-0670
818-990-9466 (fax)
Email: Miriam@Lieberconsulting.com
Website: Lieberconsulting.com
Facebook: miriamlieberconsulting
(c) Lieber/Weil2010
SpeakerInformationSpeakerInformation
Colette Weil
Managing Director: Summit Marketing
3 Marsh Drive, Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-388-5303
415-388-2675 (fax)
Email: cweil@summitmktg.com
Website: summitmktg.com

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Compliance, Cash and Reimbursement - Yes You Can Have ALL Three

  • 1. (c) Lieber/Weil2008 Compliance, Cash andCompliance, Cash and Reimbursement – Yes, YouReimbursement – Yes, You Can Have All ThreeCan Have All Three Miriam Lieber and Colette Weil
  • 2. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 SeminarObjectivesSeminarObjectives  Examine opportunities in operations and marketing to build cash sales  Discuss cash sales situation with reimbursables – Ex. wheelchair, oxygen and bed  Review how to selectively use ABN  Explore how to build cash sales mentality into your operations and marketing efforts
  • 3. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Current MarketplaceCurrent Marketplace Operations  Audit frenzy  Compliance focus  Competitive bidding uncertainty  Convoluted third party payer contracting – Smaller coverage percentages – More patient out of pocket Marketing  Patient/consumer/ referral source information paucity  Clarity in service/products offered  Revenue diversification  Media changes  Data analysis for revenue enhancement  Strength of relationships  Where to invest
  • 4. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Patient (Consumer) ExpectationPatient (Consumer) Expectation  Who defines patient expectation – Third party payer – Competitors – Media – You  Patient vs. consumer view – Patient managed, consumer responsible  Other healthcare providers approach – Cash up front – Participating provider – Service primarily – Do not sell other items outside of service necessarily (soft sell)
  • 5. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Getting fromPatient toGetting fromPatient to ConsumerConsumer  What do other healthcare services do? – Ask for the money upfront – Contact info, email info, complete post card for notification of service or event  Approach as consumer and from your consumer’s viewpoint – Choice – Referral driven or recommendation – Services provided – Education on what is paid for – What other consumers purchase with primary item • Why, how, when – Selection, price, service mix
  • 6. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Referral ExpectationReferral Expectation  Satisfy patient  No complaint calls to office  Unaware of products/services to help patient – Time/care/interest?  Little time to spend on your issues – Just wants patient taken care of  Doesn’t want to be second guessed  Doesn’t want to owe you anything!
  • 7. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Educating Referral in ConsumerEducating Referral in Consumer ChangesChanges  Presentation is key! – New products, new hope – cash expected  Explain changing regulations  Fewer dollars available from third party payers  Increase in consumer’s financial responsibility – Equates to increase in consumer’s desire for knowledge  Redirect consumer into understanding their needs can be met if they are willing to pay – Asking for the money up front is an absolute necessity!
  • 8. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Up Front Insurance Gathering =Up Front Insurance Gathering = Educated IntakeEducated Intake  Must verify insurance up front  Solidify payment arrangements before rendering service – Even if patient has to wait  Make educated decision about what to provide patient  Obtain medical necessity documentation at intake – Ensure payment – Time to retrain staff and referral community • After all, other health care providers simply expect the cash!
  • 9. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Asking forthe Money Is NotAsking forthe Money Is Not TabooTaboo  What’s good for the doctors is good for HME  Expect cash  Employ professional, matter-of-fact style  Once you know how much to expect, you know how much to collect up front  If patient doesn’t pay, why render additional supplies? – Must check outstanding balance when patient calls for supply refill  If you don’t ask, you definitely won’t get! – Human nature
  • 10. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Legal Guidelines: Marketing to Beneficiaries (“Benes”) – What You Can Do  May contact by telephone and email if one of the following exists: – Beneficiary has given written permission – Supplier previously provided covered item to beneficiary and supplier is contacting regarding covered item – Supplier has furnished one covered item in past 15 months
  • 11. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Current Customers are Best Source forMore Business  Current referral sources change jobs and will continue to refer  Current customers refer – after 10 purchases, that customer has referred 7 customers to you  Regular customers are worth five to six times more than anyone else  Increasing a customer retention rate by only 5% can boost the average customer net present value by an astonishing 35% to 95% (Source: Bain & Company: Microsoft Business for Small and Mid-Size Companies)
  • 13. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 CustomerService Easy Follow-CustomerService Easy Follow- UpUp  Gathering email at intake is critical  Follow-up timing  Personal letter, phone call, versus email – Age dependent  Complete post card for next notification  Make sure you know where to find customer/caregiver – Next of kin – cell phone, email, text  Reiterate promise/plan – Follow-through is key!
  • 14. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 How to Ask/Presentation is KeyHow to Ask/Presentation is Key  CSR – Start with one primary Medicare item – Phone script • See Tammy Zelenko’s Seminar (Increasing Cash Flow through Cash Sales) • Prepared follow-up method –Letter/email/postcard  Retail sales person – Merchandise for easy demonstration – Show items for need • Testimonials  Set incentive – Monitor for one month - Track sales
  • 15. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Cash Sales and ReimbursablesCash Sales and Reimbursables  Hospital Beds – Sheets – Pillow – Sheet lifter – Egg Crate Cushion – Bed tray/caddy – Over the bed table – Urinal – Reacher – Briefs  Consumer approaches – Checklist (BB&B) – Testimonials and examples – Stories – Visuals – Staff picks
  • 17. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Cash Sales and ReimbursablesCash Sales and Reimbursables  Wheelchair – Gel or Foam cushion – Tray – Underneath Pack – Transfer board – Ramp – Bath items
  • 18. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Cash Sales and ReimbursablesCash Sales and Reimbursables  Oxygen – Over the bed table – Footrest – Bed pillows – Pedlar
  • 21. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 General Cash and reimbursableGeneral Cash and reimbursable itemsitems  Walker – Pouch/utility – Specialized tips – Basket/pouch – Tray  Commode  Shower chair – Floor mat – Hand held shower – Grab bar – Back scrubber
  • 22. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Diabetic Supply Add-on SalesDiabetic Supply Add-on Sales Item HCPCS Care Reimb. Cost Care Allow. MSRP Home blood glucose monitor E0607 Y 70.16* Test strips (50/box) A4253 Y 38.79* 33.43* KL Lancets (100 ct) A4259 Y 12.66* Heel/elbow protector N Pedlar Exerciser N Sugar free candy - assorted fruits N Diabetic Lotion - 6 oz. N Diabetic sock overcalf (size S,M,L) N *Ceiling allowable
  • 23. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Medicare Compliant Consumer  It’s OK to have Medicare consumer buy non- covered product  If patient wants a Medicare covered item but does not want Medicare billed, use ABN and option 2  Some are willing to pay after they are informed of Medicare guidelines – Transport chair example
  • 24. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 How to Selectively Use ABNHow to Selectively Use ABN  Patient choice  Your protection  Do not coerce  Explain carefully  No “blanket” or “generic” ABN but specific use with legitimate payment doubt is acceptable  Form is often completed incorrectly – Use valid reason – script ok – preprinted reason ok – Audit for validity
  • 25. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Existing Patient ValueExisting Patient Value  Patient’s primary reimbursables  New emphasis on total patient with consumer needs over time/life  Additional patient/family purchases – Tracking cash purchases by customer # – Sample of 10 patients, no CSR • 10 patients with CSR contact  Frequency of contact  Average length of relationship  Impact on cost analysis of grandfathering
  • 26. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 Marketing forMaximumReturnMarketing forMaximumReturn  Demographics and media matter  Promotional incentive guidelines for prospective and current Medicare patients, $10 retail per item, $50 retail max per year  Sales on cash items, bundling, free with purchase  Manufacturer donated items  Valuable content to help in decision-making
  • 27. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 What’s YourPlan?What’s YourPlan?  Primary items/needs to tackle  Assess target customers in database  Determine what is the best method of contact for your audience  Lay out script  Materials to be used  Practice  Incentive  Test  Measure  Let it roll and count cash
  • 28. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 SpeakerInformationSpeakerInformation Miriam Lieber President: Lieber Consulting 15030 Ventura Boulevard, #786 Sherman Oaks, California 91403 818-789-0670 818-990-9466 (fax) Email: Miriam@Lieberconsulting.com Website: Lieberconsulting.com Facebook: miriamlieberconsulting
  • 29. (c) Lieber/Weil2010 SpeakerInformationSpeakerInformation Colette Weil Managing Director: Summit Marketing 3 Marsh Drive, Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-388-5303 415-388-2675 (fax) Email: cweil@summitmktg.com Website: summitmktg.com

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