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ULA network experience 
@ JANOG34 
Shishio Tsuchiya 
shtsuchi@cisco.com
Agenda 
• What is ULA? How should work? 
• JANOG34 experience
What is ULA? 
• Unique Local IPv6 unicast Address 
• local address which is defined by RFC4193 
• fc00::/8 and fd00::/8 
1111 110 L 
global 
identifier 
subnet 
identifier 
interface identifier 
128 bit 
7bit 
fc00::/7 
40bit 16bit 64 bit 
L=0:fc00::/8 future defined 
L=1:fd00::/8 locally assigned global unique id by randam
Sample of global ID assigned 
http://cd34.com/rfc4193/
How it works? 
Multi Prefix with GUA 
IPv4 
Internet 
IPv6 
Internet 
Walled Garden 
10.10.10.1 
2001:db8:10:1::1 
fd9e:2480:851a::1 
• Communication in Walled Garden 
• To IPv4 only global site 
• To IPv4/IPv6 global site 
ULA 
IPv4 
GUA 
RFC6724
How it works? 
ULA Only IPv6 
IPv4 
internet 
IPv6 
internet 
Walled Garden 
10.10.10.1 
fd9e:2480:851a::1 
• Communication in Walled Garden 
• To IPv4 only global site 
• To IPv4/IPv6 global site 
ULA 
IPv4 
IPv4 
RFC6724
How it works? 
ULA Only 
IPv4 
internet 
IPv6 
internet 
Walled Garden 
fd9e:2480:851a::1 
• Communication in Walled Garden 
• To IPv4 only global site 
• To IPv4/IPv6 global site 
ULA 
NAT64 
NAT66?
Why we tested ULA @JANOG34? 
• RFC6724 Default Address Selection for 
Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) was 
requested by Matsumoto-san who worked at 
NTT R&D, it came from NTT IPv6 deployment 
experience. 
• draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations 
is now WG documents but operational 
experience is NOT enough.
Agenda 
• What is ULA? How should work? 
• JANOG34 experience tested by Ohara-san
About JANOG 
• Japan Network Operators Group (JANOG) 
• Meetings are held three times a year. 
• 7/17-18 Takamatsu, Kagawa-Pref, Japan. 
• 547 participants. Streaming 217(max). 
• Test by Mac laptop 
• Served by only one PC 
– Fujitsu RX200 S7 
– VMWare with several VMs. 
– Juniper FireFly, A10 vThunder Peak traffic is approx. (140+40) Mbps
JANOG34 Logical Network Topology 
.194 ::2 
STNet Router border-rt 
VLAN100 
183.176.211.192/30 
2001:318:5100:1::/64 VLAN101 
211.7.238.96/28 
2001:318:5101:101::/64 
staff-rt public-rt pmtud-test-rt1 
VLAN102 MTU1280 
192.168.1.0/24 
2001:318:5101:102::/64 
pmtud-test-rt2 
NPTv6:2001:318:5101:114::/64 NPTv6:2001:318:5101:115::/64 
ula-gua-rt 
VLAN113 
172.17.0.0/16 
2001:318:5101:113::/64 
SSID:janog34-pmtud-test 
For PMTUD Testing 
VLAN111 
192.168.0.0/24 
2001:318:5101:111::/64 
SSID:janog34-staff 
For JANOG staff 
VLAN112 
172.16.0.0/16 
2001:318:5101:112::/64 
SSID:janog34/janog34-g 
For participants 
64:ff9b::/96 
VLAN114 
fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::/64 
SSID:janog34-ula-only 
For ULA Only Testing 
VLAN115 172.18.0.0/16 
fdbf:84e7:b37d:115::/64 
2001:318:5101:116::/64 
SSID:janog34-ula-gua 
For ULA+GUA+IPv4 Testing 
.193 ::1 
.97 ::1 
.98 ::2 .99 ::3 .100 ::4 
::5 .102 ::6 
By A10 
Juniper 
NPTv6+NAT44 
VLAN103 
192.168.2.0/24 
For wireless APs 
.101 
ula-only-rt1 
NPTv6 
ula-only-rt2 
NAT64 
.105 
::1 ::3 (DNS64)
The ULA+GUA+IPv4 segment 
• janog34-ula-gua 
• ULA/GUA/Private-IPv4 addresses are distributed by SLAAC and DHCP. 
• DHCPv6 is used to inform the DNS server. 
• Even ULA addresses are translated to GUA by stateless prefix NAT. 
• Apps: 
– OK: Mail.app, iCal, ssh, Chrome (Yahoo, Google, Amazon, YouTube, Facebook, 
Rakuten, Wikipedia, Twitter, Goo, Nicovideo), Skype 
• Maximum number of SSID associated: 13 
• No communication happened using ULA (only appeared in the contents of 
ND and mDNS) 
NAT Sessions: peak 300 Traffic: peak (1 + 3) Mbps
The ULA+GUA+IPv4 segment 
en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 
ether 78:31:c1:c4:f6:4c 
inet6 fe80::7a31:c1ff:fec4:f64c%en0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 IPv6 Linklocal 
inet 172.18.1.16 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 172.18.255.255 IPv4 Private(RFC1918) 
inet6 2001:318:5101:116:7a31:c1ff:fec4:f64c prefixlen 64 autoconf SLAAC/GUA 
inet6 2001:318:5101:116:c916:1500:60fc:60d1 prefixlen 64 autoconf temporary SLAAC/GUA 
privacy 
inet6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:115:7a31:c1ff:fec4:f64c prefixlen 64 autoconf SLAAC/ULA 
inet6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:115:a8eb:7b88:af10:a490 prefixlen 64 autoconf temporary SLAAC/ULA 
privacy 
nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD> 
media: autoselect 
status: active
The ULA only segment 
• SSID janog34-ula-only 
• Only ULA addresses are distributed by both SLAAC and DHCPv6. 
• No IPv4 addresses. 
• Apps: 
– OK: Mail.app, iCal, ssh, Chrome (Yahoo, Google, Amazon, YouTube, Facebook, 
Rakuten, Wikipedia, Twitter, Goo, Nicovideo) 
– NG: Skype 
• Maximum number of SSID associated: 8. 
NAT Sessions: peak 150 Traffic: peak (2 + 2)Mbps
The ULA only segment 
en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 
1500 
ether 78:31:c1:c4:f6:4c 
inet6 fe80::7a31:c1ff:fec4:f64c%en0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 IPv6 
LinkLocal 
inet6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:7a31:c1ff:fec4:f64c prefixlen 64 autoconf 
SLAAC/ULA 
inet6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:b95f:55e:8939:dfbd prefixlen 64 autoconf 
temporary SLAAC/ULA privacy 
inet6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f prefixlen 64 DHCPv6/ULA 
inet 169.254.126.93 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 169.254.255.255 IPv4 
LinkLocal (RFC3927) 
nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD> 
media: autoselect 
status: active
JANOG34 Logical Network Topology 
.194 ::2 
STNet Router border-rt 
VLAN100 
183.176.211.192/30 
2001:318:5100:1::/64 VLAN101 
211.7.238.96/28 
2001:318:5101:101::/64 
staff-rt public-rt pmtud-test-rt1 
VLAN102 MTU1280 
192.168.1.0/24 
2001:318:5101:102::/64 
pmtud-test-rt2 
3) NAT64 (IPv6 / IPv4) 
2) DNS64 (AAAA / A) 
1) SLAAC/DHCPv6 
NPTv6:2001:318:5101:114::/64 NPTv6:2001:318:5101:115::/64 
ula-gua-rt 
VLAN113 
172.17.0.0/16 
2001:318:5101:113::/64 
SSID:janog34-pmtud-test 
For PMTUD Testing 
VLAN111 
192.168.0.0/24 
2001:318:5101:111::/64 
SSID:janog34-staff 
For JANOG staff 
VLAN112 
172.16.0.0/16 
2001:318:5101:112::/64 
SSID:janog34/janog34-g 
For participants 
64:ff9b::/96 
VLAN114 
fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::/64 
SSID:janog34-ula-only 
For ULA Only Testing 
VLAN115 172.18.0.0/16 
fdbf:84e7:b37d:115::/64 
2001:318:5101:116::/64 
SSID:janog34-ula-gua 
For ULA+GUA+IPv4 Testing 
.193 ::1 
.97 ::1 
.98 ::2 .99 ::3 .100 ::4 
::5 .102 ::6 
By A10 
Juniper 
NPTv6+NAT44 
VLAN103 
192.168.2.0/24 
For wireless APs 
.101 
ula-only-rt1 
NPTv6 
ula-only-rt2 
NAT64 
.105 
::1 ::3 (DNS64) 
From ULA-only to IPv4-only sites
DNS64@ULA-only 
% dig www.yahoo.co.jp AAAA 
;; ANSWER SECTION: 
www.yahoo.co.jp. 893 IN CNAME www.g.yahoo.co.jp. 
www.g.yahoo.co.jp. 60 IN AAAA 64:ff9b::7697:e7e7 
64:ff9b::/96 was used as DNS64/NAT64 prefix. 
The IPv4 address of IPv4-only site is encoded in the 64:ff9b::/96 space. 
The route to this prefix is redirected to NAT64 GW in the same segment.
Test Result Summary 
• Adding ULA to GUA+IPv4(RFC1918) seemed harmless 
• Coexistence of SLAAC/ULA, DHCPv6/ULA, Stateless prefix 
NAT66, and stateful DNS64/NAT64 in a segment is possible. 
• Androids did not bring the NICs up without an IPv4 address 
assigned. 
• IPv4 only Apps: Skype didn’t work in the ULA-only (without 
IPv4). Dropbox wouldn’t neither. 
• Not tested: 
– Mixture of nodes having different address types 
– Incoming connections (for servers) 
– SIP 
– And others.
Acknowledgement 
• Thanks to 
– Shinichi Okubo, Kazuki Shimizu and JANOG34 LA 
Team who made JANOG34 conference network. 
– Yasuhiro Ohara who tested JANOG34 ULA network 
and reported the result to IETF90. 
– 547 JANOG34 participants
Appendix 
• The DHCPv6/ULA was used as the source 
for (and only for) ND and DNS on ULA only 
network ? 
• Why doesn’t it use the SLAAC/ULA ?
The DHCPv6/ULA was used as the source 
for (and only for) ND and DNS ? 
Questionable. Why doesn’t it use the SLAAC/ULA ? 
20:31:15.879134 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:c9c4:6553:c915:f183 > ff02::1:ff00:3: ICMP6, neighbor 
solicitation, who has fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3, length 32 
20:31:16.745847 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:7a31:c1ff:fec4:f64c > ff02::1:ff00:3: ICMP6, neighbor 
solicitation, who has fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3, length 32 
20:31:17.757020 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f > ff02::1:ff00:3: ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, 
who has fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3, length 32 
20:31:19.163810 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f > ff02::1:ff00:3: ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, 
who has fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3, length 32 
20:31:19.779419 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f > ff02::1:ff00:3: ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, 
who has fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3, length 32 
: 
: 
20:31:35.875976 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f > ff02::1:ff00:3: ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, 
who has fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3, length 32 
(I think I failed to capture the ND advertisement here due to my tcpdump filtering config) 
20:31:36.650332 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.59169 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53: 46769+ 
AAAA? talk.google.com. (33) 
20:31:36.653917 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.59169: 46769 
2/0/0 CNAME talk.l.google.com., AAAA 2404:6800:4008:c01::7d (82) 
Time is wrong due to timezone issue
The DHCPv6/ULA was used as the source 
for (and only for) ND and DNS ? 
Questionable. Why doesn’t it use the SLAAC/ULA ? 
20:31:37.841252 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.23712 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53: 28011+ 
A? mtalk.google.com. (34) 
20:31:37.841322 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.4213 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53: 52684+ 
AAAA? mtalk.google.com. (34) 
20:31:37.841505 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:c9c4:6553:c915:f183.64838 > 2404:6800:4008:c01::7d.5222: 
Flags [F.], seq 1, ack 1, win 16384, length 0 
20:31:37.842024 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.46727 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53: 6954+ A? 
www.google.com. (32) 
20:31:37.842185 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.29999 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53: 61308+ 
AAAA? www.google.com. (32) 
20:31:37.842277 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:c9c4:6553:c915:f183.64839 > 2404:6800:4008:c01::7d.5222: 
Flags [F.], seq 909, ack 567, win 16384, length 0 
20:31:37.843552 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.23712: 28011 
2/0/0 CNAME mobile-gtalk.l.google.com., A 74.125.23.188 (79) 
20:31:37.843554 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.4213: 52684 
2/0/0 CNAME mobile-gtalk.l.google.com., AAAA 2404:6800:4008:c01::bc (91) 
20:31:37.843555 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.46727: 6954 
5/0/0 A 173.194.117.209, A 173.194.117.211, A 173.194.117.208, A 173.194.117.212, A 
173.194.117.210 (112) 
20:31:37.843555 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.29999: 61308 
1/0/0 AAAA 2404:6800:4004:80c::1010 (60) 
Time is wrong due to timezone issue

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  • 1. ULA network experience @ JANOG34 Shishio Tsuchiya shtsuchi@cisco.com
  • 2. Agenda • What is ULA? How should work? • JANOG34 experience
  • 3. What is ULA? • Unique Local IPv6 unicast Address • local address which is defined by RFC4193 • fc00::/8 and fd00::/8 1111 110 L global identifier subnet identifier interface identifier 128 bit 7bit fc00::/7 40bit 16bit 64 bit L=0:fc00::/8 future defined L=1:fd00::/8 locally assigned global unique id by randam
  • 4. Sample of global ID assigned http://cd34.com/rfc4193/
  • 5. How it works? Multi Prefix with GUA IPv4 Internet IPv6 Internet Walled Garden 10.10.10.1 2001:db8:10:1::1 fd9e:2480:851a::1 • Communication in Walled Garden • To IPv4 only global site • To IPv4/IPv6 global site ULA IPv4 GUA RFC6724
  • 6. How it works? ULA Only IPv6 IPv4 internet IPv6 internet Walled Garden 10.10.10.1 fd9e:2480:851a::1 • Communication in Walled Garden • To IPv4 only global site • To IPv4/IPv6 global site ULA IPv4 IPv4 RFC6724
  • 7. How it works? ULA Only IPv4 internet IPv6 internet Walled Garden fd9e:2480:851a::1 • Communication in Walled Garden • To IPv4 only global site • To IPv4/IPv6 global site ULA NAT64 NAT66?
  • 8. Why we tested ULA @JANOG34? • RFC6724 Default Address Selection for Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) was requested by Matsumoto-san who worked at NTT R&D, it came from NTT IPv6 deployment experience. • draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations is now WG documents but operational experience is NOT enough.
  • 9. Agenda • What is ULA? How should work? • JANOG34 experience tested by Ohara-san
  • 10. About JANOG • Japan Network Operators Group (JANOG) • Meetings are held three times a year. • 7/17-18 Takamatsu, Kagawa-Pref, Japan. • 547 participants. Streaming 217(max). • Test by Mac laptop • Served by only one PC – Fujitsu RX200 S7 – VMWare with several VMs. – Juniper FireFly, A10 vThunder Peak traffic is approx. (140+40) Mbps
  • 11. JANOG34 Logical Network Topology .194 ::2 STNet Router border-rt VLAN100 183.176.211.192/30 2001:318:5100:1::/64 VLAN101 211.7.238.96/28 2001:318:5101:101::/64 staff-rt public-rt pmtud-test-rt1 VLAN102 MTU1280 192.168.1.0/24 2001:318:5101:102::/64 pmtud-test-rt2 NPTv6:2001:318:5101:114::/64 NPTv6:2001:318:5101:115::/64 ula-gua-rt VLAN113 172.17.0.0/16 2001:318:5101:113::/64 SSID:janog34-pmtud-test For PMTUD Testing VLAN111 192.168.0.0/24 2001:318:5101:111::/64 SSID:janog34-staff For JANOG staff VLAN112 172.16.0.0/16 2001:318:5101:112::/64 SSID:janog34/janog34-g For participants 64:ff9b::/96 VLAN114 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::/64 SSID:janog34-ula-only For ULA Only Testing VLAN115 172.18.0.0/16 fdbf:84e7:b37d:115::/64 2001:318:5101:116::/64 SSID:janog34-ula-gua For ULA+GUA+IPv4 Testing .193 ::1 .97 ::1 .98 ::2 .99 ::3 .100 ::4 ::5 .102 ::6 By A10 Juniper NPTv6+NAT44 VLAN103 192.168.2.0/24 For wireless APs .101 ula-only-rt1 NPTv6 ula-only-rt2 NAT64 .105 ::1 ::3 (DNS64)
  • 12. The ULA+GUA+IPv4 segment • janog34-ula-gua • ULA/GUA/Private-IPv4 addresses are distributed by SLAAC and DHCP. • DHCPv6 is used to inform the DNS server. • Even ULA addresses are translated to GUA by stateless prefix NAT. • Apps: – OK: Mail.app, iCal, ssh, Chrome (Yahoo, Google, Amazon, YouTube, Facebook, Rakuten, Wikipedia, Twitter, Goo, Nicovideo), Skype • Maximum number of SSID associated: 13 • No communication happened using ULA (only appeared in the contents of ND and mDNS) NAT Sessions: peak 300 Traffic: peak (1 + 3) Mbps
  • 13. The ULA+GUA+IPv4 segment en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 ether 78:31:c1:c4:f6:4c inet6 fe80::7a31:c1ff:fec4:f64c%en0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 IPv6 Linklocal inet 172.18.1.16 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 172.18.255.255 IPv4 Private(RFC1918) inet6 2001:318:5101:116:7a31:c1ff:fec4:f64c prefixlen 64 autoconf SLAAC/GUA inet6 2001:318:5101:116:c916:1500:60fc:60d1 prefixlen 64 autoconf temporary SLAAC/GUA privacy inet6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:115:7a31:c1ff:fec4:f64c prefixlen 64 autoconf SLAAC/ULA inet6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:115:a8eb:7b88:af10:a490 prefixlen 64 autoconf temporary SLAAC/ULA privacy nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD> media: autoselect status: active
  • 14. The ULA only segment • SSID janog34-ula-only • Only ULA addresses are distributed by both SLAAC and DHCPv6. • No IPv4 addresses. • Apps: – OK: Mail.app, iCal, ssh, Chrome (Yahoo, Google, Amazon, YouTube, Facebook, Rakuten, Wikipedia, Twitter, Goo, Nicovideo) – NG: Skype • Maximum number of SSID associated: 8. NAT Sessions: peak 150 Traffic: peak (2 + 2)Mbps
  • 15. The ULA only segment en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 ether 78:31:c1:c4:f6:4c inet6 fe80::7a31:c1ff:fec4:f64c%en0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 IPv6 LinkLocal inet6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:7a31:c1ff:fec4:f64c prefixlen 64 autoconf SLAAC/ULA inet6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:b95f:55e:8939:dfbd prefixlen 64 autoconf temporary SLAAC/ULA privacy inet6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f prefixlen 64 DHCPv6/ULA inet 169.254.126.93 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 169.254.255.255 IPv4 LinkLocal (RFC3927) nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD> media: autoselect status: active
  • 16. JANOG34 Logical Network Topology .194 ::2 STNet Router border-rt VLAN100 183.176.211.192/30 2001:318:5100:1::/64 VLAN101 211.7.238.96/28 2001:318:5101:101::/64 staff-rt public-rt pmtud-test-rt1 VLAN102 MTU1280 192.168.1.0/24 2001:318:5101:102::/64 pmtud-test-rt2 3) NAT64 (IPv6 / IPv4) 2) DNS64 (AAAA / A) 1) SLAAC/DHCPv6 NPTv6:2001:318:5101:114::/64 NPTv6:2001:318:5101:115::/64 ula-gua-rt VLAN113 172.17.0.0/16 2001:318:5101:113::/64 SSID:janog34-pmtud-test For PMTUD Testing VLAN111 192.168.0.0/24 2001:318:5101:111::/64 SSID:janog34-staff For JANOG staff VLAN112 172.16.0.0/16 2001:318:5101:112::/64 SSID:janog34/janog34-g For participants 64:ff9b::/96 VLAN114 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::/64 SSID:janog34-ula-only For ULA Only Testing VLAN115 172.18.0.0/16 fdbf:84e7:b37d:115::/64 2001:318:5101:116::/64 SSID:janog34-ula-gua For ULA+GUA+IPv4 Testing .193 ::1 .97 ::1 .98 ::2 .99 ::3 .100 ::4 ::5 .102 ::6 By A10 Juniper NPTv6+NAT44 VLAN103 192.168.2.0/24 For wireless APs .101 ula-only-rt1 NPTv6 ula-only-rt2 NAT64 .105 ::1 ::3 (DNS64) From ULA-only to IPv4-only sites
  • 17. DNS64@ULA-only % dig www.yahoo.co.jp AAAA ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.yahoo.co.jp. 893 IN CNAME www.g.yahoo.co.jp. www.g.yahoo.co.jp. 60 IN AAAA 64:ff9b::7697:e7e7 64:ff9b::/96 was used as DNS64/NAT64 prefix. The IPv4 address of IPv4-only site is encoded in the 64:ff9b::/96 space. The route to this prefix is redirected to NAT64 GW in the same segment.
  • 18. Test Result Summary • Adding ULA to GUA+IPv4(RFC1918) seemed harmless • Coexistence of SLAAC/ULA, DHCPv6/ULA, Stateless prefix NAT66, and stateful DNS64/NAT64 in a segment is possible. • Androids did not bring the NICs up without an IPv4 address assigned. • IPv4 only Apps: Skype didn’t work in the ULA-only (without IPv4). Dropbox wouldn’t neither. • Not tested: – Mixture of nodes having different address types – Incoming connections (for servers) – SIP – And others.
  • 19. Acknowledgement • Thanks to – Shinichi Okubo, Kazuki Shimizu and JANOG34 LA Team who made JANOG34 conference network. – Yasuhiro Ohara who tested JANOG34 ULA network and reported the result to IETF90. – 547 JANOG34 participants
  • 20. Appendix • The DHCPv6/ULA was used as the source for (and only for) ND and DNS on ULA only network ? • Why doesn’t it use the SLAAC/ULA ?
  • 21. The DHCPv6/ULA was used as the source for (and only for) ND and DNS ? Questionable. Why doesn’t it use the SLAAC/ULA ? 20:31:15.879134 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:c9c4:6553:c915:f183 > ff02::1:ff00:3: ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, who has fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3, length 32 20:31:16.745847 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:7a31:c1ff:fec4:f64c > ff02::1:ff00:3: ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, who has fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3, length 32 20:31:17.757020 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f > ff02::1:ff00:3: ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, who has fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3, length 32 20:31:19.163810 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f > ff02::1:ff00:3: ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, who has fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3, length 32 20:31:19.779419 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f > ff02::1:ff00:3: ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, who has fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3, length 32 : : 20:31:35.875976 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f > ff02::1:ff00:3: ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, who has fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3, length 32 (I think I failed to capture the ND advertisement here due to my tcpdump filtering config) 20:31:36.650332 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.59169 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53: 46769+ AAAA? talk.google.com. (33) 20:31:36.653917 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.59169: 46769 2/0/0 CNAME talk.l.google.com., AAAA 2404:6800:4008:c01::7d (82) Time is wrong due to timezone issue
  • 22. The DHCPv6/ULA was used as the source for (and only for) ND and DNS ? Questionable. Why doesn’t it use the SLAAC/ULA ? 20:31:37.841252 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.23712 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53: 28011+ A? mtalk.google.com. (34) 20:31:37.841322 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.4213 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53: 52684+ AAAA? mtalk.google.com. (34) 20:31:37.841505 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:c9c4:6553:c915:f183.64838 > 2404:6800:4008:c01::7d.5222: Flags [F.], seq 1, ack 1, win 16384, length 0 20:31:37.842024 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.46727 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53: 6954+ A? www.google.com. (32) 20:31:37.842185 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.29999 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53: 61308+ AAAA? www.google.com. (32) 20:31:37.842277 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:c9c4:6553:c915:f183.64839 > 2404:6800:4008:c01::7d.5222: Flags [F.], seq 909, ack 567, win 16384, length 0 20:31:37.843552 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.23712: 28011 2/0/0 CNAME mobile-gtalk.l.google.com., A 74.125.23.188 (79) 20:31:37.843554 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.4213: 52684 2/0/0 CNAME mobile-gtalk.l.google.com., AAAA 2404:6800:4008:c01::bc (91) 20:31:37.843555 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.46727: 6954 5/0/0 A 173.194.117.209, A 173.194.117.211, A 173.194.117.208, A 173.194.117.212, A 173.194.117.210 (112) 20:31:37.843555 IP6 fdbf:84e7:b37d:114::3.53 > fdbf:84e7:b37d:114:a10:a10:a10:f15f.29999: 61308 1/0/0 AAAA 2404:6800:4004:80c::1010 (60) Time is wrong due to timezone issue