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Discussion	
  Paper	
  for	
  :	
  	
  
Registra3on	
  of	
  	
  
detailed	
  assignment	
  
informa3on	
  	
  
in	
  whois	
  DB	
  or	
  other	
  sources	
  
* Ruri Hiromi (INTEC Inc.)
Tomohiro Fujisaki (NTT)
APNIC 40 Open Policy Meeting
Thursday, 25 Febrary 2016
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-115
Problem	
  statement	
  from	
  prop-­‐115	
  
•  there	
  are	
  some	
  cases	
  need	
  to	
  get	
  IP	
  address	
  assignment	
  
informa2on	
  in	
  more	
  detail	
  to	
  specify	
  the	
  IP	
  address.	
  
•  Without	
  detailed	
  informa2on,	
  operators	
  cannot	
  filter	
  out	
  specific	
  
address	
  range,	
  and	
  it	
  might	
  lead	
  to	
  ’OVER-­‐FILTER’	
  	
  (i.e.	
  filtering	
  	
  
whole	
  ISP's	
  address	
  range).	
  
2001:db8:1::0/56 is for IoT Network A	
2001:db8:1::/32 allocated for ISP-Y	
Case 1) address assignment size information in IPv6
Exact assignment size is not shown for IoT Network and
The IPv6 address assignment size may be different from ISP
Malicious
Device
(non-­‐)Problem	
  statement	
  
•  Registries	
  provide	
  their	
  alloca2on	
  and	
  assignment	
  informa2on	
  
for	
  the	
  sta2s2cs.	
  
•  Now	
  it	
  is	
  IoT	
  period,	
  lots	
  of	
  people	
  want	
  to	
  know	
  the	
  coverage	
  of	
  
Tradi2onal	
  internet	
  users	
  vs.	
  IoT	
  devices.	
  
•  In	
  this	
  case,	
  detailed	
  informa2on	
  must	
  be	
  usable.	
  
Registration Information will be needed for various purpose
Statistics, estimate expansion of the Internet, future service deployment, etc.
Question 1	
Do you agree with us to provide
detailed information?	
4
If YES, we want to go to the next topic,
How we provide detailed information?	
Here 5 possible solution for this.
1.  Whois DataBase
2.  DNS(Domain Name System)
3.  IRR(Internet Routing Registry) Server
4.  Other DataBase
5.  Routing Information
5
1.	
  Using	
  WHOIS	
  DB	
  
•  Policy	
  originally	
  said,	
  the	
  Alloca2on	
  and	
  Assignment	
  Informa2on	
  
should	
  be	
  registered	
  in	
  the	
  WHOIS	
  
•  To	
  provide	
  'assignment	
  prefix	
  size'	
  informa2on	
  	
  for	
  specific	
  IPv6	
  
Addresses	
  using	
  WHOIS	
  DB	
  is	
  the	
  best	
  solu2on	
  
inet6num: 2001:db8::/32
netname: DOCNET-BLK-JP
descr: Somewhere Inc.
country: JP
admin-c: 99999999JP
tech-c: 99999999JP
remarks: This information has been partially mirrored by APNIC from
remarks: JPNIC. To obtain more specific information, please use the
remarks: JPNIC WHOIS Gateway at
remarks: http://www.nic.ad.jp/en/db/whois/en-gateway.html or
remarks: whois.nic.ad.jp for WHOIS client.
remarks:    Assignment  Size  =  /56
Assignment-‐‑‒size:    /56
changed: apnic-ftp@nic.ad.jp 20130517
source: JPNIC	
Using “remarks” field
Or
Add NEW field
2.	
  Using	
  DNS	
  
•  Domain	
  Name	
  System	
  is	
  also	
  useful	
  if	
  we	
  decide	
  
; <<>> DiG 9.10.2-P3 <<>> TXT somewhere.com.
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 58716
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 5
;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;somewhere.com. IN TXT
;; ANSWER SECTION:
somewhere.com. 3600 IN TXT “2001:db8::/32
AssignmrntSize is /56"
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
somewhere.com. 73986 IN NS ns3.somewhere.com.
somewhere.com. 73986 IN NS ns2.somewhere.com.
Using “TXT”
Resource Record
Or
Add NEW RR
3.	
  Using	
  IRR	
  server	
  	
  
•  IRR	
  is	
  able	
  to	
  provide	
  assignment	
  size	
  informa2on,	
  too.	
  
route6: 2001:db8::/32
descr: SOMEWHERE IPV6 NETWORK
origin: AS566530
remarks:        assignment  size  =  /56
descr:  assignment  size  =  /56
Size:      /56
mnt-by: MAINT-SOMEW
changed: some@somewhere.com 20161231
source: RADB
Using “remarks” Object
Or
“descr” Object
Or
Add NEW Object
4,5.	
  other	
  solu3ons	
  
Here	
  are	
  possibili2es	
  for	
  these,	
  too.	
  
	
  
4.  Develop	
  other	
  DataBase	
  
5.  Rou2ng	
  Informa2on	
  System	
  
Must	
  develop	
  a	
  Brand-­‐New	
  informa2on	
  system/service	
  
but	
  it	
  will	
  create	
  from	
  a	
  clean	
  slate.	
  
Question 2	
Which is the best technique to provide
assignment size information?	
10
Summary	
  	
  
• Our	
  proposal	
  is	
  	
  
– Detailed	
  assignment	
  informa2on	
  can	
  be	
  seen	
  
in	
  whois	
  DB	
  for	
  operators	
  
– Operators	
  can	
  set	
  filter	
  with	
  this	
  detailed	
  
informa2on	
  and	
  not	
  goes	
  to	
  be	
  ‘over-­‐filter’	
  
with	
  whole	
  alloca2on	
  informa2on	
  
– Detailed	
  informa2on	
  about	
  Assignment	
  will	
  be	
  
useful	
  for	
  various	
  purpose.	
  
12
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  • 1. Discussion  Paper  for  :     Registra3on  of     detailed  assignment   informa3on     in  whois  DB  or  other  sources   * Ruri Hiromi (INTEC Inc.) Tomohiro Fujisaki (NTT) APNIC 40 Open Policy Meeting Thursday, 25 Febrary 2016 http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-115
  • 2. Problem  statement  from  prop-­‐115   •  there  are  some  cases  need  to  get  IP  address  assignment   informa2on  in  more  detail  to  specify  the  IP  address.   •  Without  detailed  informa2on,  operators  cannot  filter  out  specific   address  range,  and  it  might  lead  to  ’OVER-­‐FILTER’    (i.e.  filtering     whole  ISP's  address  range).   2001:db8:1::0/56 is for IoT Network A 2001:db8:1::/32 allocated for ISP-Y Case 1) address assignment size information in IPv6 Exact assignment size is not shown for IoT Network and The IPv6 address assignment size may be different from ISP Malicious Device
  • 3. (non-­‐)Problem  statement   •  Registries  provide  their  alloca2on  and  assignment  informa2on   for  the  sta2s2cs.   •  Now  it  is  IoT  period,  lots  of  people  want  to  know  the  coverage  of   Tradi2onal  internet  users  vs.  IoT  devices.   •  In  this  case,  detailed  informa2on  must  be  usable.   Registration Information will be needed for various purpose Statistics, estimate expansion of the Internet, future service deployment, etc.
  • 4. Question 1 Do you agree with us to provide detailed information? 4 If YES, we want to go to the next topic,
  • 5. How we provide detailed information? Here 5 possible solution for this. 1.  Whois DataBase 2.  DNS(Domain Name System) 3.  IRR(Internet Routing Registry) Server 4.  Other DataBase 5.  Routing Information 5
  • 6. 1.  Using  WHOIS  DB   •  Policy  originally  said,  the  Alloca2on  and  Assignment  Informa2on   should  be  registered  in  the  WHOIS   •  To  provide  'assignment  prefix  size'  informa2on    for  specific  IPv6   Addresses  using  WHOIS  DB  is  the  best  solu2on   inet6num: 2001:db8::/32 netname: DOCNET-BLK-JP descr: Somewhere Inc. country: JP admin-c: 99999999JP tech-c: 99999999JP remarks: This information has been partially mirrored by APNIC from remarks: JPNIC. To obtain more specific information, please use the remarks: JPNIC WHOIS Gateway at remarks: http://www.nic.ad.jp/en/db/whois/en-gateway.html or remarks: whois.nic.ad.jp for WHOIS client. remarks:    Assignment  Size  =  /56 Assignment-‐‑‒size:    /56 changed: apnic-ftp@nic.ad.jp 20130517 source: JPNIC Using “remarks” field Or Add NEW field
  • 7. 2.  Using  DNS   •  Domain  Name  System  is  also  useful  if  we  decide   ; <<>> DiG 9.10.2-P3 <<>> TXT somewhere.com. ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 58716 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 5 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;somewhere.com. IN TXT ;; ANSWER SECTION: somewhere.com. 3600 IN TXT “2001:db8::/32 AssignmrntSize is /56" ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: somewhere.com. 73986 IN NS ns3.somewhere.com. somewhere.com. 73986 IN NS ns2.somewhere.com. Using “TXT” Resource Record Or Add NEW RR
  • 8. 3.  Using  IRR  server     •  IRR  is  able  to  provide  assignment  size  informa2on,  too.   route6: 2001:db8::/32 descr: SOMEWHERE IPV6 NETWORK origin: AS566530 remarks:        assignment  size  =  /56 descr:  assignment  size  =  /56 Size:      /56 mnt-by: MAINT-SOMEW changed: some@somewhere.com 20161231 source: RADB Using “remarks” Object Or “descr” Object Or Add NEW Object
  • 9. 4,5.  other  solu3ons   Here  are  possibili2es  for  these,  too.     4.  Develop  other  DataBase   5.  Rou2ng  Informa2on  System   Must  develop  a  Brand-­‐New  informa2on  system/service   but  it  will  create  from  a  clean  slate.  
  • 10. Question 2 Which is the best technique to provide assignment size information? 10
  • 11. Summary     • Our  proposal  is     – Detailed  assignment  informa2on  can  be  seen   in  whois  DB  for  operators   – Operators  can  set  filter  with  this  detailed   informa2on  and  not  goes  to  be  ‘over-­‐filter’   with  whole  alloca2on  informa2on   – Detailed  informa2on  about  Assignment  will  be   useful  for  various  purpose.