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prop-­‐115:	
  	
  
Registra0on	
  of	
  detailed	
  assignment	
  
informa0on	
  in	
  whois	
  DB	
  
Ruri	
  Hiromi	
  (INTEC	
  Inc.)	
  	
  
	
  	
  *Tomohiro	
  Fujisaki	
  (NTT)	
  
	
  
APNIC	
  40	
  Open	
  Policy	
  Mee0ng	
  
Jakarta,	
  Indonesia	
  
Thursday,	
  10	
  September	
  2015	
  
	
  
hMp://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-­‐115
Problem	
  statement	
  
To	
  specify	
  individual	
  user	
  or	
  organiza0on,	
  
addi0onal	
  informa0on	
  to	
  current	
  registered	
  
informa0on	
  is	
  needed.	
  
– Without	
  this	
  informa0on,	
  operators	
  cannot	
  
filter	
  out	
  specific	
  address	
  range	
  properly	
  
•  it	
  might	
  lead	
  to	
  'over-­‐filter'	
  (i.e.	
  filtering	
  	
  whole	
  
ISP's	
  address	
  range).	
  
Problem	
  statement	
  (con0nued)	
  
192.0.2.24/32	
  1-­‐256	
  is	
  for	
  Home	
  A	
257-­‐511	
  	
  
is	
  for	
  HomeB	
192.0.2.0/24	
  1-­‐65536	
  is	
  shared	
  address	
  of	
  ISP-­‐X	
512-­‐767	
  	
  
is	
  for	
  HomeB	
768-­‐1023	
  	
  
is	
  for	
  HomeB	
Case1)	
  	
  network	
  using	
  IPv4	
  address	
  sharing	
  technology	
  
	
  
How	
  to	
  filtered	
  out	
  Home	
  A	
  ?
Problem	
  statement(con0nued)	
  
2001:db8:1::0/56	
  is	
  for	
  HomeA	
2001:db8:1::/32	
  allocated	
  for	
  ISP-­‐Y	
Case2)	
  	
  address	
  assignment	
  size	
  informa0on	
  in	
  IPv6	
  
	
  
The	
  IPv6	
  address	
  assignment	
  size	
  to	
  users	
  may	
  be	
  different	
  among	
  
ISPs.	
  Currently,	
  few	
  assignment	
  size	
  informa0on	
  are	
  available.	
  
Objec0ve	
  of	
  policy	
  change	
  
•  To	
  provide	
  more	
  detailed	
  assignment	
  
informa0on	
  to	
  network	
  operators	
  to	
  iden0fy	
  
individual	
  organiza0on	
  or	
  user.	
  
– Lots	
  of	
  operators	
  check	
  whois	
  DB	
  record	
  when	
  
harmful	
  traffic	
  is	
  coming	
  to	
  their	
  network,	
  to	
  
decide	
  if	
  they	
  can	
  filter	
  out	
  that	
  traffic	
  or	
  not.	
  
– Our	
  goal	
  is	
  providing	
  more	
  specific	
  informa0on	
  to	
  
support	
  these	
  ac0ons.	
  
no	
  inten0on	
  to	
  expose	
  each	
  user’s	
  private	
  informa0on	
  
Situa0on	
  in	
  other	
  regions	
  
•  No	
  same	
  regula0on/discussion	
  can	
  be	
  seen	
  in	
  
other	
  regions.	
  
– AFRINIC	
  
– ARIN	
  
– LACNIC	
  
– RIPE	
  NCC	
  
Proposed	
  solu0on	
  
•  Add	
  following	
  informa0on	
  to	
  whois	
  DB.	
  
– For	
  IPv4,	
  'port	
  range'	
  informa0on	
  to	
  assigned	
  IP	
  
address	
  	
  entry.	
  
– For	
  IPv6,	
  ‘assigned	
  prefix	
  size’	
  informa0on	
  to	
  
assignment	
  informa0on.	
  
Proposed	
  solu0on	
  –IPv6-­‐	
  	
  
inet6num:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  2001:db8:0100::/40	
  
netname:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  EXAMPLE-­‐0100	
  
descr:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  INFRASTRUCTURE-­‐CUSTOMER-­‐ASSIGNMENT-­‐BLOCK	
  
country:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  JP	
  
admin-­‐c:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  JP00001017	
  
tech-­‐c:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  JP00000593	
  
Assignment-­‐size:	
  	
  /56	
  
remarks:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  This	
  informa0on	
  has	
  been	
  par0ally	
  mirrored	
  by	
  APNIC	
  from	
  
remarks:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  JPNIC.	
  To	
  obtain	
  more	
  specific	
  informa0on,	
  please	
  use	
  the	
  
remarks:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  JPNIC	
  WHOIS	
  Gateway	
  at	
  
remarks:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  hMp://www.nic.ad.jp/en/db/whois/en-­‐gateway.html	
  or	
  
remarks:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  whois.nic.ad.jp	
  for	
  WHOIS	
  client.	
  (The	
  WHOIS	
  client	
  
remarks:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  defaults	
  to	
  Japanese	
  output,	
  use	
  the	
  /e	
  switch	
  for	
  English	
  
remarks:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  output)	
  
changed:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  apnic-­‐lp@nic.ad.jp	
  20050809	
  
source:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  JPNIC	
Possible	
  to	
  
use	
  “remarks”	
  
object	
  for	
  	
  
register.
Proposed	
  solu0on	
  –IPv4-­‐	
  	
  
inetnum:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  192.0.2.0-­‐	
  192.0.2.128	
  
netname:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  RENTALSV-­‐NET	
  
descr:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  Address	
  Sharing	
  by	
  MAP-­‐E	
  
ports-­‐per-­‐user:	
  	
  	
  64	
  
country:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  JP	
  
admin-­‐c:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  JP00010938	
  
tech-­‐c:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  JP00010938	
  
remarks:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  This	
  informa0on	
  has	
  been	
  par0ally	
  mirrored	
  by	
  APNIC	
  from	
  
remarks:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  JPNIC.	
  To	
  obtain	
  more	
  specific	
  informa0on,	
  please	
  use	
  the	
  
remarks:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  JPNIC	
  WHOIS	
  Gateway	
  at	
  
remarks:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  hMp://www.nic.ad.jp/en/db/whois/en-­‐gateway.html	
  or	
  
remarks:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  whois.nic.ad.jp	
  for	
  WHOIS	
  client.	
  (The	
  WHOIS	
  client	
  
remarks:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  defaults	
  to	
  Japanese	
  output,	
  use	
  the	
  /e	
  switch	
  for	
  English	
  
remarks:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  output)	
  
changed:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  apnic-­‐lp@nic.ad.jp	
  20071204	
  
source:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  JPNIC	
Possible	
  to	
  
use	
  “remarks”	
  
object	
  for	
  	
  
register.
Advantages	
  /	
  Disadvantages	
  
•  Advantages	
  	
  
–  operators	
  can	
  configure	
  ACL	
  by	
  using	
  correct	
  
assignment	
  informa0on	
  
–  users	
  who	
  share	
  same/neighbor	
  address	
  space	
  can	
  
avoid	
  damage	
  of	
  over-­‐filtering	
  
•  Disadvantages	
  	
  
–  need	
  to	
  check	
  registered	
  database	
  records	
  frequently	
  
–  addi0onal	
  record	
  or	
  op0on	
  should	
  be	
  considered	
  
–  addi0onal	
  registra0on	
  work	
  load	
  for	
  address	
  holders	
  
Impact	
  on	
  APNIC/APNIC	
  members	
  
APNIC	
  
•  Need	
  to	
  consider	
  whois	
  DB	
  format	
  and	
  system	
  
change.	
  
	
  
APNIC	
  members	
  
•  Members	
  need	
  to	
  update	
  their	
  records	
  
Discussion	
  on	
  sig-­‐policy	
  ML	
  
One	
  suppor0ve	
  message:	
  
•  First,	
  it	
  helps	
  law	
  enforcement	
  as	
  well	
  as	
  those	
  
who	
  wish	
  to	
  report	
  network	
  abuse,	
  by	
  iden0fying	
  
customers	
  who	
  share	
  an	
  ip	
  address.	
  
•  Second,	
  it	
  allows	
  for	
  more	
  targeted	
  spam	
  
filtering.	
  
•  Third,	
  it	
  returns	
  to	
  the	
  original	
  Internet	
  tenet	
  of	
  a	
  
central	
  database	
  capable	
  of	
  being	
  queried	
  for	
  
contact	
  informa0on	
  of	
  any	
  ip	
  address.	
  
•  Not	
  to	
  mandate	
  to	
  register.	
  
	
  
12	
  
Summary	
  	
  
•  Our	
  proposal	
  is	
  	
  
– Detailed	
  assignment	
  informa0on	
  can	
  be	
  seen	
  in	
  
whois	
  DB	
  
•  Operators	
  can	
  set	
  filter	
  with	
  this	
  detailed	
  informa0on	
  
and	
  avoid	
  ‘over-­‐filtering’	
  which	
  filter	
  out	
  all	
  allocated	
  
space.	
  
Ques0ons?	
  

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  • 1. prop-­‐115:     Registra0on  of  detailed  assignment   informa0on  in  whois  DB   Ruri  Hiromi  (INTEC  Inc.)        *Tomohiro  Fujisaki  (NTT)     APNIC  40  Open  Policy  Mee0ng   Jakarta,  Indonesia   Thursday,  10  September  2015     hMp://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-­‐115
  • 2. Problem  statement   To  specify  individual  user  or  organiza0on,   addi0onal  informa0on  to  current  registered   informa0on  is  needed.   – Without  this  informa0on,  operators  cannot   filter  out  specific  address  range  properly   •  it  might  lead  to  'over-­‐filter'  (i.e.  filtering    whole   ISP's  address  range).  
  • 3. Problem  statement  (con0nued)   192.0.2.24/32  1-­‐256  is  for  Home  A 257-­‐511     is  for  HomeB 192.0.2.0/24  1-­‐65536  is  shared  address  of  ISP-­‐X 512-­‐767     is  for  HomeB 768-­‐1023     is  for  HomeB Case1)    network  using  IPv4  address  sharing  technology     How  to  filtered  out  Home  A  ?
  • 4. Problem  statement(con0nued)   2001:db8:1::0/56  is  for  HomeA 2001:db8:1::/32  allocated  for  ISP-­‐Y Case2)    address  assignment  size  informa0on  in  IPv6     The  IPv6  address  assignment  size  to  users  may  be  different  among   ISPs.  Currently,  few  assignment  size  informa0on  are  available.  
  • 5. Objec0ve  of  policy  change   •  To  provide  more  detailed  assignment   informa0on  to  network  operators  to  iden0fy   individual  organiza0on  or  user.   – Lots  of  operators  check  whois  DB  record  when   harmful  traffic  is  coming  to  their  network,  to   decide  if  they  can  filter  out  that  traffic  or  not.   – Our  goal  is  providing  more  specific  informa0on  to   support  these  ac0ons.   no  inten0on  to  expose  each  user’s  private  informa0on  
  • 6. Situa0on  in  other  regions   •  No  same  regula0on/discussion  can  be  seen  in   other  regions.   – AFRINIC   – ARIN   – LACNIC   – RIPE  NCC  
  • 7. Proposed  solu0on   •  Add  following  informa0on  to  whois  DB.   – For  IPv4,  'port  range'  informa0on  to  assigned  IP   address    entry.   – For  IPv6,  ‘assigned  prefix  size’  informa0on  to   assignment  informa0on.  
  • 8. Proposed  solu0on  –IPv6-­‐     inet6num:              2001:db8:0100::/40   netname:            EXAMPLE-­‐0100   descr:                    INFRASTRUCTURE-­‐CUSTOMER-­‐ASSIGNMENT-­‐BLOCK   country:                JP   admin-­‐c:                JP00001017   tech-­‐c:                  JP00000593   Assignment-­‐size:    /56   remarks:                This  informa0on  has  been  par0ally  mirrored  by  APNIC  from   remarks:                JPNIC.  To  obtain  more  specific  informa0on,  please  use  the   remarks:                JPNIC  WHOIS  Gateway  at   remarks:                hMp://www.nic.ad.jp/en/db/whois/en-­‐gateway.html  or   remarks:                whois.nic.ad.jp  for  WHOIS  client.  (The  WHOIS  client   remarks:                defaults  to  Japanese  output,  use  the  /e  switch  for  English   remarks:                output)   changed:                apnic-­‐lp@nic.ad.jp  20050809   source:                  JPNIC Possible  to   use  “remarks”   object  for     register.
  • 9. Proposed  solu0on  –IPv4-­‐     inetnum:                192.0.2.0-­‐  192.0.2.128   netname:                RENTALSV-­‐NET   descr:                    Address  Sharing  by  MAP-­‐E   ports-­‐per-­‐user:      64   country:                JP   admin-­‐c:                JP00010938   tech-­‐c:                  JP00010938   remarks:                This  informa0on  has  been  par0ally  mirrored  by  APNIC  from   remarks:                JPNIC.  To  obtain  more  specific  informa0on,  please  use  the   remarks:                JPNIC  WHOIS  Gateway  at   remarks:                hMp://www.nic.ad.jp/en/db/whois/en-­‐gateway.html  or   remarks:                whois.nic.ad.jp  for  WHOIS  client.  (The  WHOIS  client   remarks:                defaults  to  Japanese  output,  use  the  /e  switch  for  English   remarks:                output)   changed:                apnic-­‐lp@nic.ad.jp  20071204   source:                  JPNIC Possible  to   use  “remarks”   object  for     register.
  • 10. Advantages  /  Disadvantages   •  Advantages     –  operators  can  configure  ACL  by  using  correct   assignment  informa0on   –  users  who  share  same/neighbor  address  space  can   avoid  damage  of  over-­‐filtering   •  Disadvantages     –  need  to  check  registered  database  records  frequently   –  addi0onal  record  or  op0on  should  be  considered   –  addi0onal  registra0on  work  load  for  address  holders  
  • 11. Impact  on  APNIC/APNIC  members   APNIC   •  Need  to  consider  whois  DB  format  and  system   change.     APNIC  members   •  Members  need  to  update  their  records  
  • 12. Discussion  on  sig-­‐policy  ML   One  suppor0ve  message:   •  First,  it  helps  law  enforcement  as  well  as  those   who  wish  to  report  network  abuse,  by  iden0fying   customers  who  share  an  ip  address.   •  Second,  it  allows  for  more  targeted  spam   filtering.   •  Third,  it  returns  to  the  original  Internet  tenet  of  a   central  database  capable  of  being  queried  for   contact  informa0on  of  any  ip  address.   •  Not  to  mandate  to  register.     12  
  • 13. Summary     •  Our  proposal  is     – Detailed  assignment  informa0on  can  be  seen  in   whois  DB   •  Operators  can  set  filter  with  this  detailed  informa0on   and  avoid  ‘over-­‐filtering’  which  filter  out  all  allocated   space.