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A proposal for
prop-115: Registration of
detailed assignment
information in whois DB
* Ruri Hiromi (INTEC Inc.)
Tomohiro Fujisaki (NTT)
APNIC 39 Open Policy Meeting
Fukuoka, Japan
Thursday, 5 March 2015
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-115
Problem statement
• there are some cases need to get IP address assignment
information in more detail to specify user IP address.
• With out this information, operators cannot filter out specific
address range, and it might lead to 'over-filter' (i.e. filtering
whole ISP's address range).
192.0.2.24/32 1-256 is for HomeA
257-511
is for HomeB
192.0.2.0/24 1-65536 is shared address of ISP-X
512-767
is for HomeB
768-1023
is for HomeB
Case1) Shared Address
Just filtered out HomeA
Problem statement(continued)
2001:db8:1::0/56 is for HomeA
2001:db8:1::/35 allocated for ISP-Y
Case2) address assignment size information in IPv6
Exact assignment size is not shown for Home Network
The IPv6 address assignment size may be different from ISP
Objective of policy change
• Lots of operators look a record when harmful behavior coming
to their network to identify its IP address confirming it can be
filtered or not.
• The goal is providing more specific information to support these
actions.
Situation in other regions
• No same regulation/discussion can be seen in other regions.
– AFRINIC
– ARIN
– LACNIC
– RIPE NCC
Proposed policy solution
• Provide accurate filtering information generated from whois DB.
• For IPv4, propose to add 'port range' information to IP address
entry.
inetnum: 219.118.96.0 - 219.118.111.255
netname: INetCore-CIDR-BLK-JP
descr: INTEC Inc.
remarks: Email address for spam or abuse complaints :
abuse@inetcore.com
country: JP
admin-c: IN011JP
tech-c: KN10198JP
remarks: This information has been partially mirrored by APNIC from
remarks: JPNIC. To obtain more specific information, please use the
remarks: JPNIC WHOIS Gateway at
remarks: http://www.nic.ad.jp/en/db/whois/en-gateway.html or
remarks: whois.nic.ad.jp for WHOIS client. (The WHOIS client
remarks: defaults to Japanese output, use the /e switch for English
remarks: output)
changed: apnic-ftp@nic.ad.jp 20021008
changed: apnic-ftp@nic.ad.jp 20110519
source: JPNIC
No
modification
on the DB
record, no
additional
object
Using
“remarks”
object for
detailed info.
Proposed policy solution(continued)
• Provide accurate filtering information generated from whois DB.
• For IPv6, propose to provide 'assignment prefix size' information
for specific IPv6 address.
inet6num: 2403:2000::/32
netname: INetCore-CIDR-BLK-JP
descr: INTEC Inc.
remarks: Email address for spam or abuse complaints :
abuse@inetcore.com
country: JP
admin-c: IN011JP
tech-c: KN10198JP
remarks: This information has been partially mirrored by APNIC from
remarks: JPNIC. To obtain more specific information, please use the
remarks: JPNIC WHOIS Gateway at
remarks: http://www.nic.ad.jp/en/db/whois/en-gateway.html or
remarks: whois.nic.ad.jp for WHOIS client. (The WHOIS client
remarks: defaults to Japanese output, use the /e switch for English
remarks: output)
changed: apnic-ftp@nic.ad.jp 20070627
changed: apnic-ftp@nic.ad.jp 20130517
source: JPNIC
No
modification
on the DB
record, no
additional
object
Using
“remarks”
object for
detailed info.
Advantages / Disadvantages
• Advantages
– operators can set filtering by IP address based on correct assignment
information base.
– users who share same address space can be avoid to be including bulk
filtering.
• Disadvantages
– registration rule will move to more strict manner.
– strict watch and control in registration of database records.
– additional record or option will be considered.
– privilege for withdrawing detailed information will be set for these records.
Impact on APNIC
• This might be beyond the scope of using whois DB, need to
change policy of use, membership, guidance, or any other
related documents.
• Members need to update their records
Other consideration
• For the security reason, this detailed records may be able to see
only by operators.(some kind of user control/privilege setting is
needed)
• For hosting services, /32 in IPv4 and /128 in IPv6 registration
should be discussed based on its operability and possibility.
But a harmful activities to filter by IP addresses are coming from
hosting services as well. Here it seemed to be some demands.
Summary
• Our proposal is
– Detailed assignment information can be seen in whois DB for operators
– Operators can set filter with this detailed information and not goes to be
‘over-filter’ with whole allocation information
Questions?

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  • 1. A proposal for prop-115: Registration of detailed assignment information in whois DB * Ruri Hiromi (INTEC Inc.) Tomohiro Fujisaki (NTT) APNIC 39 Open Policy Meeting Fukuoka, Japan Thursday, 5 March 2015 http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-115
  • 2. Problem statement • there are some cases need to get IP address assignment information in more detail to specify user IP address. • With out this information, operators cannot filter out specific address range, and it might lead to 'over-filter' (i.e. filtering whole ISP's address range). 192.0.2.24/32 1-256 is for HomeA 257-511 is for HomeB 192.0.2.0/24 1-65536 is shared address of ISP-X 512-767 is for HomeB 768-1023 is for HomeB Case1) Shared Address Just filtered out HomeA
  • 3. Problem statement(continued) 2001:db8:1::0/56 is for HomeA 2001:db8:1::/35 allocated for ISP-Y Case2) address assignment size information in IPv6 Exact assignment size is not shown for Home Network The IPv6 address assignment size may be different from ISP
  • 4. Objective of policy change • Lots of operators look a record when harmful behavior coming to their network to identify its IP address confirming it can be filtered or not. • The goal is providing more specific information to support these actions.
  • 5. Situation in other regions • No same regulation/discussion can be seen in other regions. – AFRINIC – ARIN – LACNIC – RIPE NCC
  • 6. Proposed policy solution • Provide accurate filtering information generated from whois DB. • For IPv4, propose to add 'port range' information to IP address entry. inetnum: 219.118.96.0 - 219.118.111.255 netname: INetCore-CIDR-BLK-JP descr: INTEC Inc. remarks: Email address for spam or abuse complaints : abuse@inetcore.com country: JP admin-c: IN011JP tech-c: KN10198JP remarks: This information has been partially mirrored by APNIC from remarks: JPNIC. To obtain more specific information, please use the remarks: JPNIC WHOIS Gateway at remarks: http://www.nic.ad.jp/en/db/whois/en-gateway.html or remarks: whois.nic.ad.jp for WHOIS client. (The WHOIS client remarks: defaults to Japanese output, use the /e switch for English remarks: output) changed: apnic-ftp@nic.ad.jp 20021008 changed: apnic-ftp@nic.ad.jp 20110519 source: JPNIC No modification on the DB record, no additional object Using “remarks” object for detailed info.
  • 7. Proposed policy solution(continued) • Provide accurate filtering information generated from whois DB. • For IPv6, propose to provide 'assignment prefix size' information for specific IPv6 address. inet6num: 2403:2000::/32 netname: INetCore-CIDR-BLK-JP descr: INTEC Inc. remarks: Email address for spam or abuse complaints : abuse@inetcore.com country: JP admin-c: IN011JP tech-c: KN10198JP remarks: This information has been partially mirrored by APNIC from remarks: JPNIC. To obtain more specific information, please use the remarks: JPNIC WHOIS Gateway at remarks: http://www.nic.ad.jp/en/db/whois/en-gateway.html or remarks: whois.nic.ad.jp for WHOIS client. (The WHOIS client remarks: defaults to Japanese output, use the /e switch for English remarks: output) changed: apnic-ftp@nic.ad.jp 20070627 changed: apnic-ftp@nic.ad.jp 20130517 source: JPNIC No modification on the DB record, no additional object Using “remarks” object for detailed info.
  • 8. Advantages / Disadvantages • Advantages – operators can set filtering by IP address based on correct assignment information base. – users who share same address space can be avoid to be including bulk filtering. • Disadvantages – registration rule will move to more strict manner. – strict watch and control in registration of database records. – additional record or option will be considered. – privilege for withdrawing detailed information will be set for these records.
  • 9. Impact on APNIC • This might be beyond the scope of using whois DB, need to change policy of use, membership, guidance, or any other related documents. • Members need to update their records
  • 10. Other consideration • For the security reason, this detailed records may be able to see only by operators.(some kind of user control/privilege setting is needed) • For hosting services, /32 in IPv4 and /128 in IPv6 registration should be discussed based on its operability and possibility. But a harmful activities to filter by IP addresses are coming from hosting services as well. Here it seemed to be some demands.
  • 11. Summary • Our proposal is – Detailed assignment information can be seen in whois DB for operators – Operators can set filter with this detailed information and not goes to be ‘over-filter’ with whole allocation information