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Practical Implications of Group
Theory
Dr. Venkatesan S. Thimmakondu,
Department of Chemistry
BITS-Pilani, K K Birla Goa Campus
Introduction
• I studied group theory for the last one and
half months. Where am I going to use it?
• How a computer understands molecular
geometry?
• Obviously, we need an input to do any sort of
calculation.
Coordinates
• Cartesian Coordinates
• Internal Coordinates
• Or via a graphical interface (molden, molekel,
Avagadro, Jmol, Gaussview, etc.,)
Water Molecule in Cartesian
Coordinates
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Z-matrix Atomic Coordinates (in bohr)
Symbol Number X Y Z
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
O 8 0.00000000 0.00000000 0.12708029
H 1 0.00000000 -1.48440166 -1.00842821
H 1 0.00000000 1.48440166 -1.00842821
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Can I write the geometry of the below
molecule in Cartesian?
When we study the molecule with x-ray crystallography, Cartesian
coordinates are often the natural choice.
Internal Coordinates (Z-Matrix)
• To specify 2 points in space what we need?
• To specify 3 points in space what we need?
• To specify 4 points in space what we need?
• Specifying each atom of a molecule in terms
of a distance (bond length), angle (bond
angle) and torsional (dihedral) angle to other
atoms is what we call it as Z-Matrix.
Z-Matrix of Water
• There are more than one way of writing Z-
matrix even for small molecules.
O
H 1 R1
H 1 R1 2 A1
R1 = 0.988984834251219
A1 = 105.170884348412642
One can also write
• For the same water molecule:
H
O 1 R1
H 2 R1 1 A1
R1 = 0.988984834251219
A1 = 105.170884348412642
• Because, it has nothing to do with the actual
bonding.
Connection???
• Where is group theory here?
• Seriously, I am missing something here.
• Let’s assume that the point group symmetry
of water is not C2v but Cs.
• If so, what kind of changes I need to do in the
Z-matrix.
• How can it be Cs?
Z-Matrix of Water (in Cs symmetry)
O
H 1 R1
H 1 R2 2 A1
R1 = 0.988984834251219
R2 = 0.988884834251219
A1 = 105.170884348412642
• Even if there is a difference on the 4th decimal
place, it matters!
H2O in Cs symmetry
• 3 entries (two bond lengths and one bond
angle) found in Z-matrix
• There are 3 unique (two bond lengths and
one bond angle) internal coordinates.
• Of these, 3 will be optimized.
H2O in C2v Symmetry
• 3 entries (two bond lengths and one bond
angle) found in Z-matrix
• There are 2 unique (one bond length and one
bond angle) internal coordinates.
• Of these, 2 will be optimized.
Symmetry is essential in electronic
structure calculations
• The reasons are obviously pragmatic.
• A calculation run on a molecule whose input
structure has the exact symmetry that the
molecule should have, will tend to be faster
and will yield a “better” geometry than one
run on an approximate structure, however
close this may be to the exact one.
• You lose the symmetry, you deal with more
variables.
Point group?
C:CCCC
pentatetraenylidene
H
H
C
C
C:
CC
ethynylcyclopropenylidene
H
H
:C
C
C
C
C
ethynylpropadienylidene
H
H
C
H
H
C C:
3-(didehydrovinylidene)cyclopropene
H
H H H
H
H
ortho-tetradehydrobenzene meta-tetradehydrobenzene para-tetradebydrobenzene
Can you write a Z-Matrix for H2CO
C
O 1 R1
H 1 R2 2 A1
H 1 R2 2 A1 3 D180
R1 = 1.20
R2 = 1.10
A1 = 120
D180 = 180.0
• Why dihedral angle as 180°? Why not 120°?
What difference does it make?
Why the angle should be between 0 to
180?
• 0 degree angle? That means we are
superimposing one atom over the other.
• Why 180 degree angle is bad?
• Because, if you define 180 degree angle in
your Z-matrix, then defining dihedral angles
will be a problem.
Dummy Atom
• Dummy atom (X) is just a point in space and
has no significance in bonding and hence no
significance in the actual calculation. However,
we need dummy atom in the Z-matrix for the
following reasons.
• Case 1: The function of dummy atom is to
break up the problematic 180° angle into two
90° angles.
• Case 2: If there are no real atoms on a
rotational axis or mirror plane, dummy atoms
can be useful for defining the symmetry
element.
Think about constructing a Z-matrix for
benzene without Dummy atoms
• I am pretty sure you will realize the importance
of dummy atoms.
• Judicious use of dummy atoms and realizing the
importance of symmetry are very essential in
solving the molecular problems in a computer.
• By the way, it is possible to get the D6h
symmetry without dummy atoms for benzene.
However, during optimization it would fail.
Think about it why it happens?
X
C 1 RCC*
C 1 RCC* 2 A60
C 1 RCC* 3 A60 2 D180
C 1 RCC* 4 A60 3 D180
C 1 RCC* 5 A60 4 D180
C 1 RCC* 6 A60 5 D180
H 1 RXH* 2 A60 7 D180
H 1 RXH* 3 A60 2 D180
H 1 RXH* 4 A60 3 D180
H 1 RXH* 5 A60 4 D180
H 1 RXH* 6 A60 5 D180
H 1 RXH* 7 A60 6 D180
RCC = 1.3886
A60 = 60.0000
D180 = 180.0000
RXH = 2.4708
Note: An asterisk symbol (RCC*, RXH*) means that it is a variable and not a
constant. Choosing variables and constants in the right way is the key to
success in getting the desired symmetry.

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Practical Implications of Group Theory in Chemistry

  • 1. Practical Implications of Group Theory Dr. Venkatesan S. Thimmakondu, Department of Chemistry BITS-Pilani, K K Birla Goa Campus
  • 2. Introduction • I studied group theory for the last one and half months. Where am I going to use it? • How a computer understands molecular geometry? • Obviously, we need an input to do any sort of calculation.
  • 3. Coordinates • Cartesian Coordinates • Internal Coordinates • Or via a graphical interface (molden, molekel, Avagadro, Jmol, Gaussview, etc.,)
  • 4. Water Molecule in Cartesian Coordinates --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Z-matrix Atomic Coordinates (in bohr) Symbol Number X Y Z --------------------------------------------------------------------------- O 8 0.00000000 0.00000000 0.12708029 H 1 0.00000000 -1.48440166 -1.00842821 H 1 0.00000000 1.48440166 -1.00842821 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
  • 5. Can I write the geometry of the below molecule in Cartesian? When we study the molecule with x-ray crystallography, Cartesian coordinates are often the natural choice.
  • 6. Internal Coordinates (Z-Matrix) • To specify 2 points in space what we need? • To specify 3 points in space what we need? • To specify 4 points in space what we need? • Specifying each atom of a molecule in terms of a distance (bond length), angle (bond angle) and torsional (dihedral) angle to other atoms is what we call it as Z-Matrix.
  • 7. Z-Matrix of Water • There are more than one way of writing Z- matrix even for small molecules. O H 1 R1 H 1 R1 2 A1 R1 = 0.988984834251219 A1 = 105.170884348412642
  • 8. One can also write • For the same water molecule: H O 1 R1 H 2 R1 1 A1 R1 = 0.988984834251219 A1 = 105.170884348412642 • Because, it has nothing to do with the actual bonding.
  • 9. Connection??? • Where is group theory here? • Seriously, I am missing something here. • Let’s assume that the point group symmetry of water is not C2v but Cs. • If so, what kind of changes I need to do in the Z-matrix. • How can it be Cs?
  • 10. Z-Matrix of Water (in Cs symmetry) O H 1 R1 H 1 R2 2 A1 R1 = 0.988984834251219 R2 = 0.988884834251219 A1 = 105.170884348412642 • Even if there is a difference on the 4th decimal place, it matters!
  • 11. H2O in Cs symmetry • 3 entries (two bond lengths and one bond angle) found in Z-matrix • There are 3 unique (two bond lengths and one bond angle) internal coordinates. • Of these, 3 will be optimized.
  • 12. H2O in C2v Symmetry • 3 entries (two bond lengths and one bond angle) found in Z-matrix • There are 2 unique (one bond length and one bond angle) internal coordinates. • Of these, 2 will be optimized.
  • 13. Symmetry is essential in electronic structure calculations • The reasons are obviously pragmatic. • A calculation run on a molecule whose input structure has the exact symmetry that the molecule should have, will tend to be faster and will yield a “better” geometry than one run on an approximate structure, however close this may be to the exact one. • You lose the symmetry, you deal with more variables.
  • 15. Can you write a Z-Matrix for H2CO C O 1 R1 H 1 R2 2 A1 H 1 R2 2 A1 3 D180 R1 = 1.20 R2 = 1.10 A1 = 120 D180 = 180.0 • Why dihedral angle as 180°? Why not 120°?
  • 17. Why the angle should be between 0 to 180? • 0 degree angle? That means we are superimposing one atom over the other. • Why 180 degree angle is bad? • Because, if you define 180 degree angle in your Z-matrix, then defining dihedral angles will be a problem.
  • 18. Dummy Atom • Dummy atom (X) is just a point in space and has no significance in bonding and hence no significance in the actual calculation. However, we need dummy atom in the Z-matrix for the following reasons. • Case 1: The function of dummy atom is to break up the problematic 180° angle into two 90° angles. • Case 2: If there are no real atoms on a rotational axis or mirror plane, dummy atoms can be useful for defining the symmetry element.
  • 19. Think about constructing a Z-matrix for benzene without Dummy atoms • I am pretty sure you will realize the importance of dummy atoms. • Judicious use of dummy atoms and realizing the importance of symmetry are very essential in solving the molecular problems in a computer. • By the way, it is possible to get the D6h symmetry without dummy atoms for benzene. However, during optimization it would fail. Think about it why it happens?
  • 20. X C 1 RCC* C 1 RCC* 2 A60 C 1 RCC* 3 A60 2 D180 C 1 RCC* 4 A60 3 D180 C 1 RCC* 5 A60 4 D180 C 1 RCC* 6 A60 5 D180 H 1 RXH* 2 A60 7 D180 H 1 RXH* 3 A60 2 D180 H 1 RXH* 4 A60 3 D180 H 1 RXH* 5 A60 4 D180 H 1 RXH* 6 A60 5 D180 H 1 RXH* 7 A60 6 D180 RCC = 1.3886 A60 = 60.0000 D180 = 180.0000 RXH = 2.4708 Note: An asterisk symbol (RCC*, RXH*) means that it is a variable and not a constant. Choosing variables and constants in the right way is the key to success in getting the desired symmetry.