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Welcome To The World Of The Geo-Data Silo Gary Gale, Director Ovi Places Registry gary.gale@nokia.com Society of Cartographers Summer School  Manchester, September 2010 53.443375,-2.214174
KELLYLEEBARRETT on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/kellylee/4177529745/
Gary Gale on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/vicchi/4414198544/
Changua Coast Conservation Action on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/waders/3177090710/
Nad on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/nad/386051891/
mapping and locating ourselves and the world Boson Nova on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/bosonnova/3250298799/
??? bc - smoke signals Newsbie Pix on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/newsbiepix/4235304729/
3200 bc – celestial navigation ohad* on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/ohadby/4119933035/
1000 bc – homing pigeons Adelaide Archivist on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/adelaide_archivist/3172908079/
1100 bc – magnetic compass Sebastian Niedlicj (Grabthar) on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/42311564@N00/2292118012/
1300 – mappa mundi elefthis1 on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/61288890@N00/2141540887/
circa 1600 normanbleventhalmapcenter on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/normanbleventhalmapcenter/2674855383/
caveman on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/caveman_92223/3185534518/
perpetualplum on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/perpetualplum/2866054138/
1900 – radio triangulation Happychopper on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/happychopper/345096825/
1960 - gps John_Dulaneyon Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/15046584@N08/1562794445/
1990 – portable gps 2Tales on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stigster/3761714132/
2000 – “smart” phones
2009 – LBS apps 20
2010 – But Where’s The Map?
data, data, everywhere Dunechaseron Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/dunechaser/163959411/
bionicteaching on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/bionicteaching/2920562020/
Chris Torres on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/ctorresphoto/3427060086/
the four horseman of the geopocalypse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apocalypse_vasnetsov.jpg
the first horseman – data silos the first horseman - pestilence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BambergApocalypseFolio014rFirstHorseman.JPG
international commercial data
national commercial and open data
international crowd-sourced open data
national open data
specialist and niche commercial data
social network crowd-sourced data
(data) silos (lots of them) Zoom Zoom on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/zoomzoom/304135268/
(not so) unique identifiers sporkwrapper on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/sporkwrapper/264250038/
the second horseman - war the second horseman – licensing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BritLibAddMS35166ApocalypseUnkFolio2SealRedHorse.jpg
“Everyone wants free, open, high quality geo data and no one wants to pay for it” “The (Geo) Data Dichotomy Dilemma” Gary’s Bloggage, November 2009 http://www.vicchi.org/2009/11/16/the-geo-data-dichotomy-dilemma/
proprietary and closed licensing Dru Bloomfield on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/athomeinscottsdale/3279949186/
open licensing mafleen on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/mafleen/4858606716/
licensing isn’t always what it seems mofo on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/yomofo/6681546/
some licenses are viral Ted Rheingold on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bmindful/113996138/
“As an OSM activist and commercial cartographer both, I find myself using OS OpenData more and more… yet have never even started using OSM data for commercial purposes” Richard Fairhurst commenting on “Cartographically Speaking; Data (Lots), Maps (Not So Much), Problems (Many)” Gary’s Bloggage, July 2010 http://www.vicchi.org/2010/07/30/cartographically-speaking-data-lots-maps-not-so-much-problems-many/
the third horseman - famine the third horseman – derivation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dieu_en_majesté.jpg
http://cheezburger.com/View/3944760320
the fourth horseman – co-mingling the fourth horseman - death http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BambergApocalypseFolio016rForthHorseman.JPG
co-mingling Zoom MadreMia!!! on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/rebeccacowser/3913497067/
the inaccurate fifth horseman - pestilence the inaccurate fifth horseman – i’m here not there http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Durer_Revelation_Four_Riders.jpg
geo-babel Yufu Lin on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/yufujamar/3383400631/
possible solution # 1 David on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/cdell/548548453/
license harmonization William Murphy on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/infomatique/3959890868/
some licenses will always be restrictive or closed Martin Cathrae on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/suckamc/2560335775/
and despite community licenses like Creative Commons http://creativecommons.org/choose/results-one?license_code=by-sa&jurisdiction=&version=3.0&lang=en
and the open database license http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/
more silos in the making Zoom Zoom on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/zoomzoom/304135268/
some people just don’t like licenses Simon Booth-Lucking on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/simonbooth/4791803924/
possible solution # 2 Leo Reynolds on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/lwr/3992825492/
open database of places Tom Magliery on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/mag3737/1914076277/
http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/17/open-database-places/
there may be trouble ahead Tobias C. Jensen on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/toby87/3614063326/
“realizing this goal will take an eon  in Internet time unless we see an  unanticipated outbreak of altruism  on the part of a data supplier” Tyler Bell, “Why check-ins and like buttons will change the local landscape”, O’Reilly Radar, May 2010 http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/05/check-ins-like-buttons-will-ch.html
and … Leo Reynolds on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/lwr/32256861/
Chris Henden on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/recurrence/6271033/
N-Plex?
londonohio
londonontario
london united kingdom
no news-stands? Pirate Alice on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/piratealice/2056491590/
easy and orange? Christopher Doyle on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/irishflyguy/2425063737/
Chris Henden on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/recurrence/6271033/
possible solution # 3 Mario Kilngemann Reynolds on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/quasimondo/2358017289/
open database of identifiers Elizabeth Skene on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/skene/3874882162/
Ovi Place Facebook Place Long/Lat Foursquare WOEID nrivera on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/nrivera/3158814786/
Thank you Gary Gale, Director Ovi Places Registry gary.gale@nokia.com twitter.com/vicchi

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Welcome To The World Of The Geo-Data Silo

  • 1. Welcome To The World Of The Geo-Data Silo Gary Gale, Director Ovi Places Registry gary.gale@nokia.com Society of Cartographers Summer School Manchester, September 2010 53.443375,-2.214174
  • 2. KELLYLEEBARRETT on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/kellylee/4177529745/
  • 3. Gary Gale on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/vicchi/4414198544/
  • 4.
  • 5. Changua Coast Conservation Action on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/waders/3177090710/
  • 6. Nad on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/nad/386051891/
  • 7. mapping and locating ourselves and the world Boson Nova on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/bosonnova/3250298799/
  • 8. ??? bc - smoke signals Newsbie Pix on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/newsbiepix/4235304729/
  • 9. 3200 bc – celestial navigation ohad* on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/ohadby/4119933035/
  • 10. 1000 bc – homing pigeons Adelaide Archivist on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/adelaide_archivist/3172908079/
  • 11. 1100 bc – magnetic compass Sebastian Niedlicj (Grabthar) on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/42311564@N00/2292118012/
  • 12. 1300 – mappa mundi elefthis1 on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/61288890@N00/2141540887/
  • 13. circa 1600 normanbleventhalmapcenter on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/normanbleventhalmapcenter/2674855383/
  • 14. caveman on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/caveman_92223/3185534518/
  • 15. perpetualplum on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/perpetualplum/2866054138/
  • 16. 1900 – radio triangulation Happychopper on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/happychopper/345096825/
  • 17. 1960 - gps John_Dulaneyon Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/15046584@N08/1562794445/
  • 18. 1990 – portable gps 2Tales on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stigster/3761714132/
  • 20. 2009 – LBS apps 20
  • 21. 2010 – But Where’s The Map?
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  • 25. data, data, everywhere Dunechaseron Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/dunechaser/163959411/
  • 26. bionicteaching on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/bionicteaching/2920562020/
  • 27. Chris Torres on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/ctorresphoto/3427060086/
  • 28. the four horseman of the geopocalypse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apocalypse_vasnetsov.jpg
  • 29. the first horseman – data silos the first horseman - pestilence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BambergApocalypseFolio014rFirstHorseman.JPG
  • 34. specialist and niche commercial data
  • 36. (data) silos (lots of them) Zoom Zoom on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/zoomzoom/304135268/
  • 37. (not so) unique identifiers sporkwrapper on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/sporkwrapper/264250038/
  • 38. the second horseman - war the second horseman – licensing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BritLibAddMS35166ApocalypseUnkFolio2SealRedHorse.jpg
  • 39. “Everyone wants free, open, high quality geo data and no one wants to pay for it” “The (Geo) Data Dichotomy Dilemma” Gary’s Bloggage, November 2009 http://www.vicchi.org/2009/11/16/the-geo-data-dichotomy-dilemma/
  • 40. proprietary and closed licensing Dru Bloomfield on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/athomeinscottsdale/3279949186/
  • 41. open licensing mafleen on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/mafleen/4858606716/
  • 42. licensing isn’t always what it seems mofo on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/yomofo/6681546/
  • 43. some licenses are viral Ted Rheingold on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bmindful/113996138/
  • 44. “As an OSM activist and commercial cartographer both, I find myself using OS OpenData more and more… yet have never even started using OSM data for commercial purposes” Richard Fairhurst commenting on “Cartographically Speaking; Data (Lots), Maps (Not So Much), Problems (Many)” Gary’s Bloggage, July 2010 http://www.vicchi.org/2010/07/30/cartographically-speaking-data-lots-maps-not-so-much-problems-many/
  • 45. the third horseman - famine the third horseman – derivation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dieu_en_majesté.jpg
  • 47. the fourth horseman – co-mingling the fourth horseman - death http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BambergApocalypseFolio016rForthHorseman.JPG
  • 48. co-mingling Zoom MadreMia!!! on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/rebeccacowser/3913497067/
  • 49. the inaccurate fifth horseman - pestilence the inaccurate fifth horseman – i’m here not there http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Durer_Revelation_Four_Riders.jpg
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  • 52. geo-babel Yufu Lin on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/yufujamar/3383400631/
  • 53. possible solution # 1 David on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/cdell/548548453/
  • 54. license harmonization William Murphy on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/infomatique/3959890868/
  • 55. some licenses will always be restrictive or closed Martin Cathrae on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/suckamc/2560335775/
  • 56. and despite community licenses like Creative Commons http://creativecommons.org/choose/results-one?license_code=by-sa&jurisdiction=&version=3.0&lang=en
  • 57. and the open database license http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/
  • 58. more silos in the making Zoom Zoom on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/zoomzoom/304135268/
  • 59. some people just don’t like licenses Simon Booth-Lucking on Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/simonbooth/4791803924/
  • 60. possible solution # 2 Leo Reynolds on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/lwr/3992825492/
  • 61. open database of places Tom Magliery on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/mag3737/1914076277/
  • 63. there may be trouble ahead Tobias C. Jensen on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/toby87/3614063326/
  • 64. “realizing this goal will take an eon in Internet time unless we see an unanticipated outbreak of altruism on the part of a data supplier” Tyler Bell, “Why check-ins and like buttons will change the local landscape”, O’Reilly Radar, May 2010 http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/05/check-ins-like-buttons-will-ch.html
  • 65. and … Leo Reynolds on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/lwr/32256861/
  • 66. Chris Henden on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/recurrence/6271033/
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  • 72. no news-stands? Pirate Alice on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/piratealice/2056491590/
  • 73. easy and orange? Christopher Doyle on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/irishflyguy/2425063737/
  • 74. Chris Henden on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/recurrence/6271033/
  • 75. possible solution # 3 Mario Kilngemann Reynolds on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/quasimondo/2358017289/
  • 76. open database of identifiers Elizabeth Skene on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/skene/3874882162/
  • 77. Ovi Place Facebook Place Long/Lat Foursquare WOEID nrivera on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/nrivera/3158814786/
  • 78. Thank you Gary Gale, Director Ovi Places Registry gary.gale@nokia.com twitter.com/vicchi

Editor's Notes

  1. Maps are easyWe’ve been making them for 1000’s of yearsLots of established standards and principles