Surviving in an XML World

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Is DITA/XML in your future? Have you heard rumors of an impending CMS? Or do you suspect these tools will be in your future sooner or later?

Two veterans, Steve Jong and Anna Pratt, have moved from FrameMaker/Word/RoboHelp to XMetaL and, variously, Vasont CMS, Perforce, and Microsoft Team Foundation Server CMS. Steve and Anna describe the transition they underwent, expose the love-hate relationship you’ll develop with DITA, and share their insights about how to survive and thrive in an XML world.

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  • We each have over 30 years of experience, going back to #2 computer company (Honeywell)
    We’ve each used all the tools
    We each were using FrameMaker, and now we each use DITA XML
    When we got together to compare notes, we discovered we’re using DITA in some very different ways
    Our presentation is stronger for our discovered differences
    We are both productive in the new environment
  • A pessimistic approach would be to cross out “thriving,” but we’ll take the optimistic view
  • What is structured information?
    Information that has been analyzed, typed, and organized
    I am a long-time advocate of structured documentation, before there were supporting tools
    Information Mapping has seven map (topic) types: procedure, process, principle, concept, fact, structure, classification

    Three types are widely used: concept, task, reference

    Key point: As data can be typed (string, integer, floating-point), so can information be typed
    Certain information types and elements go together; for example, a task can have a step (but a concept cannot)

    Key point: Structure is separated from format
    Is it bold because it’s a level head, or a level head because it’s bolded?
    Is it a cross-reference because it’s blue and underlined, or blue and underlined because it’s a cross-reference?
  • Concept: What is DITA XML?
    Darwin Information Type Architecture, developed by IBM and now open source; an end-to-end structure that uses a subset of the IM topic types
    eXtensible Markup Language, used very widely in programming to exchange data between systems
    One implementation of SGML; there are others (who here is familiar with VAX DOCUMENT?)
    Very flexible, but not bandwidth efficient
    Deep and complex environment, with multiple ways to do things
    We are both using the full, strict DITA environment

    (How widespread is XML? Who here uses XML? Who uses Word? Who uses Word .DOCX format? You’re using XML!)
  • Implements structured documentation (which Steve has advocated for many years)

    Ready reuse—every element (paragraphs, steps, notes, art, topics) available for sharing and reuse

    Can reorganize and move from level to level

    True single sourcing (one-click rendering to multiple output formats)

    CMS library uses DB technology to implement controlled multi-user environment

    Steve’s environment ties changes to PR database, allowing end-to-end tracking (PITA, but I love it!)

    Supports large, highly complex documents well (doesn't crash like some programs--"Word"!)

    Conditionalization works well (doesn't crash like Frame)

    Integrated, automated workflow (but Steve’s group doesn't use it)
  • DITA is rigid--enforces discipline in both organization and structure--no more freelancing, no Word/Frame overrides
    (Imagine writing poetry where the tool enforces rhyming with a drop-down list of acceptable words: “I wandered lonely as a cloud” -> crowd, loud, proud, shroud ...)

    Very little control over format

    Separation of steps in create/edit/produce process
    Not an integrated development environment (but desktop era was an anomaly)
    Graphics tools aren’t integrated as in Word/Frame, but you can create externally and link in (which works well)
    Compilation errors are possible

    Lots of do-it-yourself or open-source pieces, strung together using scripts of .BAT files (Frame+WebWorks+Acrobat is proprietary, but smooth)

    Overhead of dedicated support personnel (Steve’s group has 2 people, but better than DEC's 1:1 ratio)

    Since the whole point is to share and reuse topics, teamwork is critical
    In our environment it’s required
    Unlike the Word or Frame world, file naming and location is critical (otherwise you can’t find topics in database or book won’t render)
    Lack of attention to detail is glaring
    Lone-wolf writers can do real damage
    It’s a constant struggle against entropy
  • THREE POINTS:
    Company who acquired us ended up with 3 dispersed teams, each using a different set of tools
    Doc lead:
    Directed to make all the docs/help look like they belong to one company
    Put together a team to research CMS and DITA options (decision: no CMS due to $$; XMetaL and DITA Open Toolkit for processing)
    Vendor performed an inaugural doc set conversion and provided us with
    Transforms
    XMetaL attribute/elements to use
    Converted XML files
  • THREE POINTS:
    Company adopted a CMS for all products
    Migrated bugs, product code, docs, feature requests, and more to the CMS
    Good news:
    many of our docs now build with the nightly product builds which make doc deliverables available to all
    because we use the same CMS, all of the dispersed teams we can access other Doc Team files if needed
  • THREE POINTS:
    As Steve mentioned, to ensure that links work, shared files are available for access, output succeeds—hierarchies are critical
    In some CMSes, like the ones that our company uses, if you fail to check something in, builds will not work
    Because we access so many different pieces of software in the new workflows, we have many more possible points of failure

  • THREE POINTS:
    If your new material does not appear in the doc that you just built, if might not be checked into source control.
    If your docs build as part of the product build, you now have the power to break not only the doc builds, but also the product builds. You will meet engineers you never knew existed as they let you know that you BROKE the build.
    Transforms:
    Leaning the limitations of the open-source software
    Even if your transforms work on your own system, you still need to test with every build system that the group uses
    First output run:
    Point to source folder. Done.
    Point to output folder. Made same as source folder. Done.
    Press Enter. Done. Message: couldn’t find source.
  • In this world, I can get out of my own way

    People in Steve’s group (North Carolina) resigned when DITA came in because it was such a different way of working
    The scars were still there when we got converted

    When Steve’s local group converted, we were floundering

    Steve’s group used a third-party conversion company (don't name) to convert our FrameMaker files into XML topics
  • (Who here knows who this is? Freddy Mercury of Queen meme)
  • (Who here knows who drew this? His initials are in the drawing. Sidney Paget, for Sherlock Holmes, 150 years earlier)

    Put another way: They said it would be transparent; hah!

    Steve suffered from carpal-tunnel syndrome for four months after cleaning up the conversion
  • Steve is now working in an existing, well-defined document structure
    MS Remote Desktop Connection (to Windows Enterprise Server); DITA 1.2; Vasont CMS ST (V14); XMetaL Author Enterprise 7; Apache FOP (formatting object processor) rendering engine
    5 passwords to the inner sanctum: encrypted disk; laptop sign-in; Remote Desktop Connection; CMS; bug DB
    Can’t copy/paste across the environment
    TekQuest (customized IBM ClearQuest) DB for requirements and problem reports; all work must be tied to a problem report (PR)
    Multiple writers, multiple products, multiple releases, multiple modes; many shared topics
    Single-sourced; output to Eclipse help (XML), HTML internal docs (HTML) and DVD (PDF)
    CMS database contains the DITA C, R, and T topics (we have roughly 50,000); topics, art source files, book maps, DITAvals; all in a soup
    Book maps 700+
    DITAval files 600+
    Art source 5900+
    C 20,000+
    T 18,000+
    R 10,000

  • Ignoring the implementation details, this is how things are supposed to work conceptually

    TL 9000 (ISO 9001 quality system for telecoms) greatly influences our process (our user of the bug database)

    Key point: Steep learning curve

    Recommended practice is to work on one topic at a time (but I pull down the whole book)

    We are not part of the software build process; our Help systems are checked in separately
  • Anna polled her group, and here are the (anonymous) results
  • Teams:
    Easier to help others out regardless of project
    Easier to maintain one set of tools
    Consistent output across company
    Teams feel like they are part of the same company
    Self-ex
    REUSE: Because everyone uses the same tools and writing style/standards, shared content is less likely to be identified as having been contributed by someone else.
    CONDITONS: Because the conditions are turned on or off in one ditaval file, it is much easier to target an audience, for example, reviewers, customers, Oracle or SAP users.
    TAG: Tagging lets our localization team quickly identify what NOT to localize (product names) and what to watch out for (UI elements).
    AGILE: Because writing for DITA requires smallish topics and Agile development is development in small chunks, DITA doc’ing actually fits will into the workflow.
  • Getting content from there to here
    Copy and paste harks back to an earlier methodology. Where were the tools that we needed?
    DocBook team used XSL to convert their files, but still had to go through each xml file manually to double-check that all links, images and conversions worked.
    Learning the limitations of our tools; why can’t you use an unordered list under a step? You really can’t get there from here (or do that—ever!)
    We’re still finding topics that we could have shared and are still in the process of clean-up and consolidation.
    What is a reference and what is a concept? Use one topic type; discover that others use another topic type for the same content type.
    Very few shortcuts available requiring lots of highlighting and mouse manipulation
    Love/hate relationship
    Where is the content (grepwin: thank you!)

  • How would we summarize our experiences? I want to emphasize two key points about working in an XML world: distance and pace

    Key point: Distance (pointers)
    Some people fail to grasp this!
    This is an environment were you have to code and compile a document, and until it renders you don’t know whether it’s worked or not

    Where once you were responsible for a book, or a doc set, now you are responsible for topics, or book map(s)

    DITA book map (DITA MAP) is a collection of pointers (some people never get this)
    In Vasont, your level of access is only an illusion (like an Amazon book page)
    This means you are working through the book map (TOC) to get to the pointees (topics)
    When you double-click a line you open the pointer; to open the file itself takes 3 additional steps
    Reorganizing a book means editing the book map
    One at a time, not globally
    Delete and move are two-step operations
    (Big deal, and you never delete a topic from the database, just remove it from the map; PITA, but I love it!)

    Extract-edit-reload cycle means you're working on a copy of the topic

    For me, at least, every single change is working on a ship in a bottle in a refrigerator in a room in a house in a gated community--all locked


  • And after working with a CMS you will be qualified to work with radioactive materials

    On the bright side, this definitely makes us content developers
    This is as hard as anything engineers do
    No one is impressed by working in Word, but this is impressive
    Same issues with variable names, file names, structure, metadata, pointer lengths, null pointer exceptions
    Renderings can silently fail, leaving you to hunt through the code like any engineer
  • The Sholes typewriter QWERTY keyboard was laid out to slow down typists

    Key point: In this world you have to think first, then work slowly and deliberately
    One topic at a time (though in practice we grab whole books)
    Every reload is an adventure (will it work?); Steve’s average 1:20
    Response time
    CMS (database) updates (every element must have a unique key)
    Book map changes
    Steve’s method of making global changes is now harshly punished; changes must be made topic by topic
  • What can you do to prepare for this possible future?

    You should be doing this today, regardless of your tools or future plans

    Key point: Structure starts in your mind
    You can format a paragraph to resemble a level head, but format is not structure
    Conversion is the process of crossing fingers and hoping for the best
    Impossible to categorize blended material
    Better luck finding content in a can of alphabet soup

    After conversion: It’s hard to anticipate sharing; opportunities grow organically

    If you try too hard to share topics you’ll end up with byzantine structures
  • This is especially important if you work with a global team
    So far, it has taken us 2 years; we are still working on issues and bugs in the system
    While you’re budgeting, see about training in your new tools
    Training, training, training? Check with your current staff. You might find that you have the expertise on-hand, but didn’t use it with your old tools.
    We know that management usually makes decision based on the bottom line
    We’re still discovering the benefits and limitations of DITA
  • Ownership: We are US and everything is OURs.
    You no longer own the book or the help system.
    You no longer control the tone, the flow, or the writing style.
    Format, no worries:
    Our page breaks are cringe-worthy!
    We did fix the issue of a heading at the bottom of one page and the related content on the next page…but not right away.
    I often quickly turn away from the lone bullet at the bottom of the page, or the step, or the sub-step
    Who really needs to know what chapter they’re in or under what heading they are reading?
    What!? The table continues on another page—to another 4 pages?
    We cannot keep code blocks together.
    Quality control: Rather than focus on writing, we focus on tools (result: loss of time and quality)

  • STC competitions- not now:
    No format control
    No content control
    No output control
    EVER?: refer to Steve’s talk at InterChange 2014. It’s a new changing world.
  • Ditavals and variables are powerful tools—learn the best way to use them in YOUR environment
  • (Steve’s log file for a 500-page book is over 500 pages)
  • Steve is going to make and flag a small, real change to a document

    This should demonstrate Steve’s work environment (and the deliberate pace of work)

    TL9000 made us rely on the bug DB (zucchini process)

    Oracle VPN
    RDC to 100.64.nn.nn (Test server)
    PR 233586 (network element group name 255 -> 250 characters)
  • You work through a book map

    Extract topics from CMS database library

    You can theoretically makes changes directly within Vasont (“why would anyone want to use an external editor?”), but it's editing a database record—that way lies madness (ship in a salt shaker)

    This is at a remove from working directly on file
  • Select the pointer to a topic and open the topic itself in a separate navigator window (this was very confusing to us)

    Check out a topic to lock it ("Mother, may I?")
    Best practice, and crucial in a multi-writer environment
    Check that you have the latest version (good practice); otherwise, you risk overwriting other work
    Check to see where else topic is used
  • Structure is enforced in the folder structure of extracted files (you can fight it, but why try?):
    sjong
    {book}
    concepts
    references
    tasks (this is a task)
  • Edit topic locally

    Expects files in the structure Vasont uses
    If you move them elsewhere, or work directly on a topic, you can break the cross-references
    (DF was fired for not understanding this)

    It enforces structure (information typing) in a "smart" (AKA rigid) way
    For example, no steps in a concept; no results before an action
    Assures a “well-formed” document
    Practically speaking, it's a guessing game what you can do and where it goes
    My advice is the same as Anna’s: let it go

    As Penny said, it really tries to approximate WYSIWYG
    But I consider it unusable, and I don’t use this view
    You can’t find attributes in Tags On view
    You can’t find tags in Preview

    Can only link to graphics--no embedding, but XMetaL can display them

    XMetaL can render output directly, but it looks different from any rendering we use, so we don't use it

  • This is what I use, but it’s visually confusing (easy to miss spaces)
    Frustrating: you know how Word knows better than you what to do? This is worse

    This is where it’s easiest to add and edit attributes (Attribute Inspector is on)
    Tag changes (both for change bars and to tie to PR database)
    If you tag the wrong element, change bar will be wrong (too much or too little)
    Overlapping changes are a challenge

    Fit and finish issues:
    Small targets
    Vasont scrolls window
    Keyboard defaults aren’t there (have to overuse mouse)
  • Shows the XML code, database metadata
    This is where you can find where attributes are used

    You can edit in this view—you can edit XML files using Notepad!—but a mistake can break the topic and prevent rendering altogether
  • This is the way the file is “actually” stored on disk
    Not meant to be human-readable
  • Load edited topic back into Vasont library (which cancels checkout)
    It takes 12 clicks
    Pay attention! Failures appear quietly (this window says loading is finished; it doesn’t announce it succeeded)
    If you forget to reload edited topic, you haven't changed it at all
    If you forget to check it out (in Steve’s environment), it won't reload
    Tip: if it looks like it's not working, it's working; if it works immediately, it didn't work at all

    Steve actually typically extracts a whole book and works locally; this is probably bad practice

    Steve can multitask, making a change in topic X+1 while saving topic X, but it's error-prone (load w/o edit, forget to load) and probably bad practice
  • First chance to see what you've done

    Steve’s group uses the Apache FOP rendering engine

    Rendering is handled by Vasont and a script written by the department
    One click for PDF, Eclipse help, or XML

    For Steve’s 500-page book, extract/render is a 30-minute process

    My Julia Child moment

    In Steve’s real life, this change had to be made to 30 topics
  • Surviving in an XML World

    1. 1. Surviving Thriving in an XML World Steven Jong and Anna Pratt
    2. 2. Overview 1. Concepts: the differences between desktop publishing and structured environments 2. Our Stories: converting existing material to a structured environment 3. Show and Tell: comparing and contrasting our work environments and processes 4. Survey Says: How Anna’s group feels about the change 5. Summary: How you too can survive—and even thrive! —in an XML world 6. Demonstration: making a change to a topic 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    3. 3. What is Structured Information? Structured information is information that has been analyzed, categorized by type, and organized Compare with data typing Intellectual-property implementation: Information Mapping® Topics: concepts, tasks, references Example: a step is part of a task (but not a concept) Structure is separated from format Commercial tools now support structured information 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    4. 4. What is DITA XML? Darwin Information Type Architecture eXtensible Markup Language (widely used) One implementation of Structured General Markup Language (SGML) 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    5. 5. DITA Advantages Implements structured information Readily supports reuse and reorganization True single sourcing CMS library uses database technology to support a secure, controlled, multi-user environment Supports large, highly complex documents well Supports conditionalization well Integrated, automated workflow (where used) The bigger the group, the bigger the library, the more topics are shared, the more translation done, the more channels… the better the case for DITA 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    6. 6. DITA Disadvantages Rigidly enforces both organization and structure Very little control over format Separation of steps in create/edit/produce process Lots of do-it-yourself or open- source pieces Requires dedicated support personnel for even small changes Attention to detail by all team members is critical—one rogue actor can do real damage 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    7. 7. To quote a wise man: “Here’s my number. My company can help you when you’re ready to convert back…”
    8. 8. Anna’s Awesome Adventure Into the wild world of DITA and XML Established company, using FrameMaker, Word, AuthorIT Acquired by a larger company with dispersed doc teams, using FrameMaker, Word, RoboHelp, DocBook Tech Comm team researched DITA and CMS system options and chose XMetaL and DITA as production tools Consulting firm converted inaugural document set Dispersed teams converted remaining docs
    9. 9. DITA + CMS =  Recently put a CMS in place (Team Foundation Server-TFS) Migrated 90% of projects to CMS (based on product build systems) Kept the other 10% in another source control system
    10. 10. Work Flows Hierarchies Checking files in and out Opening 5 to 7 pieces of software
    11. 11. Favorite? Mistakes Forgot to add topics to source control Referenced a deleted topic Worked with transforms (or not)
    12. 12. Steve’s Stirring Story Startup company, using FrameMaker/Word, Acrobat Pro No online help Acquired by larger company with a five-year-old DITA/CMS environment in place (and the scars to prove it) New tools: Vasont CMS, XMetaL editor, Apache FOP Existing documents converted into XML by a third- party vendor Online help, but no translation 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    13. 13. What Worked Well (Steve) Vendor successfully converted 6 books/1000 pages Vasont and home-grown scripts incorporate many process steps Main book has 3 modes; once converted, 1 click generates any of 3 output formats (including Help) 20 writers maintain a CMS library of 700 books, 50,000 topics 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    14. 14. What Didn’t Work Well (Steve) Neither seamless nor transparent Considerable manual cleanup (that I couldn’t let go) One topic was 100 pages, formatted as a glossary; subsequently split (manually) into ~100 reference topics The new work environment uses remote connection; can’t copy/paste from spec to topic Generating output can take 30 minutes 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    15. 15. Steve’s Development Process 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    16. 16. Survey Says… About the transition…
    17. 17. Works Well All teams use the same tools Documented DITA standards and processes put every team on the same boat… (which only feels like it’s sinking) Reusability is much easier Conditional text expands content capabilities Content tagging for localization Agile Development Environment
    18. 18. Pain Points Transition process: getting content from the source tool to XML tool Identifying topics to share Choosing the topic type Shortcuts Content tagging for localization Finding information in the source
    19. 19. Working From a Distance 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    20. 20. 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    21. 21. Pace 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    22. 22. Structure Begins in Your Mind Focus narrowly Look for concepts, tasks, and references (and name them that way) Keep everything simple Look for opportunities to share Stick to the style guide! Don’t repeat—reuse … But don’t push sharing too far Don’t use formatting to indicate structure Don’t mix concept, task, and reference material in a topic Don’t write lists as sentences (and learn to accept one-item lists) 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    23. 23. Converting Existing Documents Format is not structure Don’t expect too much from automated conversion Blended material (concept + task + reference) can’t be categorized, so you will have to rewrite it 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World Decide on the workflow and file structure/hierarchy Plan your transition schedule Budget time and money for ongoing maintenance of your DITA system Plan to have someone on staff familiar with XMLT, DITA Get buy-in from all writing teams Make everyone aware of the benefits and the limitations of DITA
    24. 24. Surviving Let it go… Ownership Format control Page breaks Heading/footer navigation for the user “Keep with next” Tables with no continued titles Quality control Personal preferences and opinions (even if you’re right!)
    25. 25. To quote a wise woman “…although our local team had some 150 years of collective tech writing experience, our DITA deliverables reflect intern-level quality at best.”
    26. 26. Thriving Become familiar with DITA, XML, and .bat files Figure out the best way to use ditavals and variables Learn to love F11 to go from this: To this:
    27. 27. Thrive on… Discover the joy of reading log files and code NEVER lose your sense of humor! 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    28. 28. Demonstration Making a single change to a topic 1. Extract topic from CMS library 2. Edit topic 3. Upload topic into CMS library 4. Render document (as PDF) 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    29. 29. Extract: Book Map 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    30. 30. Extract: Navigator 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    31. 31. Extract: Local Folders 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    32. 32. Edit: Normal View 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    33. 33. Edit: Tags On View 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    34. 34. Edit: Text View 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    35. 35. Edit: Raw View <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <!DOCTYPE task PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DITA Task//EN" "http://cmsrender01/dtd/task.dtd" [ <!ENTITY cbl "cable”> <!ENTITY wln "wireline”> <!ENTITY wls "wireless”> ]> <?VasontExtractInfo entity_id="4164257" version_id="11883"?><task id="t_cmp_wireless_usr_managing_network_elements_creating_a_network_element_group"><title id="v4000867">Creating a Network Element Group</title><prolog id="v5356143"><metadata id="v5356144"><keywords id="v4000871"></keywords></metadata></prolog><taskbody id="v4000872"><context id="v4000873">To create a network element group:</context><steps id="v4000876"><step id="v4000877"><cmd id="v4000878">From the <uicontrol id="v4301940">Network</uicontrol> section of the navigation pane, select <uicontrol id="v4000879">Network Elements</uicontrol>.</cmd><stepresult id="v4256868">The content tree displays a list of network element groups; the initial group is <uicontrol id="v4000881">ALL</uicontrol>.</stepresult></step><step id="v4000882"><cmd id="v4000883">From the content tree, select the <uicontrol id="v4000884">ALL</uicontrol> group.</cmd><stepresult id="v4256870">The Network Element Administration page opens in the work area.</stepresult></step><step id="v4000887"><cmd id="v4000888">On the Network Element Administration page, click <uicontrol id="v4000890">Create Group</uicontrol>.</cmd><stepresult id="v4256872">The Create Group page opens.</stepresult></step><step id="v4000892"><cmd id="v4000893">Enter the name of the new network element group.</cmd><info id="v5040534"><ph id="v5040535" otherprops="pr_215419"> The name can be up to 255 characters long and must not contain quotation marks (") or commas (,).</ph></info></step><step id="step_5C4171AF06904E3D8FE7C244CD094C8D"><cmd id="v4286870">Enter a text description of the network group.</cmd></step><step id="v4000896"><cmd id="v4000897">When you finish, click <uicontrol id="v4000898">Save</uicontrol> (or <uicontrol id="v4000899">Cancel</uicontrol> to discard your changes).</cmd><stepresult id="v5040536">The new group appears in the content tree.</stepresult></step></steps><result id="result_8E82944CCCEB461C96873A9B38F8E599">You have created a network element group.</result></taskbody></task>
    36. 36. Reload 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    37. 37. Render 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    38. 38. References DITA Users (dita-users) Yahoo! group “Structured Information: Navigation, Access, and Control.” Steven J. DeRose, 1995 http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingAids/EAD/derose.h tml (retrieved 15 Sep 2013) “Crash Course for Content Management.” Vasont Systems https://www.vasont.com/resources/resources-crash- course-for-content-management.html (retrieved 11 Nov 2013) DITA Best Practices: A Roadmap for Writing, Editing, and Architecting in DITA. Laura Bellamy, Michelle Carey, Jenifer Schlotfeldt. IBM Press, 2011. 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World
    39. 39. Questions? 10/15/2015Surviving Thriving in an XML World

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