GENC3003Personal Financial PlanningAndrew Hingstonandrew.hingston@unsw.edu.auUnit 18: Retirement dwellings
2DiscussionWhat are your parent’s expectations of you for caring for them when they are elderly?How do you think these expectations vary between different cultures?
3Caring for elderly parentsVisit them regularly at their existing houseKeep “independence” and living in their own houseBut what if frail or something happens?Buy a house with granny flat and look after themClose family relationships (esp grandchildren)But 20 year commitment too big for spouse if it is your parents?Retirement villageCommunity of retirees living in self-contained flatsGroup accommodation also available for very frailBut feel “discarded” by family?
4Retirement villagesAdvantagesSome are more like retirement “resorts”.Great for sociable people.Lots of other people of the same age and with lots of time to do things.On-site care provided.Monitoring of people who are not well.
5Retirement villagesDisadvantagesUsually a very bad investment! (destroys wealth)Annual fees can be highVery homogenous group of people – lack of variety!Spend all your time watching others get sick and die.Not good for unsociable people or mentally ill.Separation from family. Feeling “abandoned”.
6Retirement villagesTypes of titlesStrata title (better)You can sell property to another retiree of your choice.May be restrictions and large deferred management fee.LeaseholdPay upfront fee to “lease” from the village developer (no own)Receive % of upfront fee and capital gain when leave.
7LicencePay upfront fee and give village developer interest free loanReceive loan back less deffered management fee and no capital gains.Company title (bad)Buy shares in village that entitles you to live there.But, big problems with voting rights over complaints!
8Retirement villagesTipsConsider non-retirement village alternatives carefullyRead the terms very carefullyBeware of large ongoing strata management, carer and other fees.Watch out for large “exit fees”.Watch out for restrictions on who you can sell to.Watch out for the village taking over the sale process – they may set a high price and you have to keep paying fees for 2 years while they find a buyer!

Unit 18c Retirement dwellings

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    GENC3003Personal Financial PlanningAndrewHingstonandrew.hingston@unsw.edu.auUnit 18: Retirement dwellings
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    2DiscussionWhat are yourparent’s expectations of you for caring for them when they are elderly?How do you think these expectations vary between different cultures?
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    3Caring for elderlyparentsVisit them regularly at their existing houseKeep “independence” and living in their own houseBut what if frail or something happens?Buy a house with granny flat and look after themClose family relationships (esp grandchildren)But 20 year commitment too big for spouse if it is your parents?Retirement villageCommunity of retirees living in self-contained flatsGroup accommodation also available for very frailBut feel “discarded” by family?
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    4Retirement villagesAdvantagesSome aremore like retirement “resorts”.Great for sociable people.Lots of other people of the same age and with lots of time to do things.On-site care provided.Monitoring of people who are not well.
  • 5.
    5Retirement villagesDisadvantagesUsually avery bad investment! (destroys wealth)Annual fees can be highVery homogenous group of people – lack of variety!Spend all your time watching others get sick and die.Not good for unsociable people or mentally ill.Separation from family. Feeling “abandoned”.
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    6Retirement villagesTypes oftitlesStrata title (better)You can sell property to another retiree of your choice.May be restrictions and large deferred management fee.LeaseholdPay upfront fee to “lease” from the village developer (no own)Receive % of upfront fee and capital gain when leave.
  • 7.
    7LicencePay upfront feeand give village developer interest free loanReceive loan back less deffered management fee and no capital gains.Company title (bad)Buy shares in village that entitles you to live there.But, big problems with voting rights over complaints!
  • 8.
    8Retirement villagesTipsConsider non-retirementvillage alternatives carefullyRead the terms very carefullyBeware of large ongoing strata management, carer and other fees.Watch out for large “exit fees”.Watch out for restrictions on who you can sell to.Watch out for the village taking over the sale process – they may set a high price and you have to keep paying fees for 2 years while they find a buyer!