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AAA CST Information
& Support Day
London 27th April 2018
1: Tim Hartshorne
2: Colin Nice
3: Questions, comments
and feedback
The
importance of
QA
Equipment. 1
‘Paper clip’ test
Quick and easy to
assess element
damage
Equipment. 2
It’s a
representation
of the
reflection and
scattering of
ultrasound
waves caused
by
variation in
acoustic
impedance
(dependent on
speed of sound
and density) of
an aneurysm.
What is this?
Variation in image quality
Should this pass
image QA?
Transverse image
Longitudinal image
(4 images ‘stitching’ together the length of the abdominal aorta)
Should this pass
image QA?
Being objective?
As CST’s do we all agree what constitutes an acceptable ultrasound image and
accurate measurement of aortic diameter?
As CST’s do we all provide the same level of feedback regarding image quality and
image QA?
We can’t be absolutely certain
Subjectively, we probably do but can we improve
guidance and provide a clearer
definition/description of what is an acceptable
image?
Before handing over to Colin Nice there are two
other brief points to share
Is there another way of
undertaking image QA?
Why not automate the process?
ScanNav® automated peer review
• ScanNav® is used during
the FASP Fetal Anomaly
Scan at 18+0 to 20+6 weeks
• ScanNav® gives real time
feedback on whether
paused images are fit for
purpose and whether the
protocol has been followed.
Prototype in use in John
Radcliffe Hospital Oxford
since June 2015
 Images of the aorta or often much more variable in quality than
those obtained during FAS due to bowel gas and depth
(particularly high BMI)
 The system also appears to analyse frozen images rather than
live images
 The system would need to be ‘trained’ with input from
sonographers on thousands of aortic images
 There are structures in the abdomen such as the IVC that can
mimic the aorta
 How would the screeners work with the system in screening
clinics and would it add significantly to the length of the
examination?
 Would the system be able to assess the accuracy of calliper
placement and also confirm that the widest diameter of the aorta
has been measured?
Automated peer review not currently appropriate for AAA
Other ways of
looking at
performance
0 1 2 3 4 5
012345
L
T
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
-0.6
-0.4
-0.2
0.0
0.2
0.4
0.6
1011
(L+T)/2
T-L
n =988 (94%) n =60 (6%)
Scatter plot Bland Altman Plot
Longitudinal diam
Using data?
Slide kindly provided by Dave Wright
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
-0.6
-0.4
-0.2
0.0
0.2
0.4
0.6
1945
(L+T)/2
T-L
n =202 (88%)
spread = 0.0779
n =28 (12%)
Slide kindly provided by Dave Wright
Very few 2.5 to 2.9cm aortas?
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
-0.6
-0.4
-0.2
0.0
0.2
0.4
0.6
1011
(L+T)/2
T-L
n =988 (94%) n =60 (6%)
Slide kindly provided by Dave Wright
Diameter between 2.5-2.9cm
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
-0.6
-0.4
-0.2
0.0
0.2
0.4
0.6
9036
(L+T)/2
T-L
n =1853 (98%) n =34 (2%)
Slide kindly provided by Dave Wright
Less variation between TS and LS diameter
‘Pushing’ the
boundary?
Should the
calliper position
be penalised?

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Ultrasound image presentation Tim Hartshorne

  • 1. AAA CST Information & Support Day London 27th April 2018 1: Tim Hartshorne 2: Colin Nice 3: Questions, comments and feedback
  • 4. ‘Paper clip’ test Quick and easy to assess element damage Equipment. 2
  • 5. It’s a representation of the reflection and scattering of ultrasound waves caused by variation in acoustic impedance (dependent on speed of sound and density) of an aneurysm. What is this?
  • 8. Transverse image Longitudinal image (4 images ‘stitching’ together the length of the abdominal aorta) Should this pass image QA?
  • 9. Being objective? As CST’s do we all agree what constitutes an acceptable ultrasound image and accurate measurement of aortic diameter? As CST’s do we all provide the same level of feedback regarding image quality and image QA?
  • 10. We can’t be absolutely certain Subjectively, we probably do but can we improve guidance and provide a clearer definition/description of what is an acceptable image? Before handing over to Colin Nice there are two other brief points to share
  • 11. Is there another way of undertaking image QA?
  • 12. Why not automate the process?
  • 13. ScanNav® automated peer review • ScanNav® is used during the FASP Fetal Anomaly Scan at 18+0 to 20+6 weeks • ScanNav® gives real time feedback on whether paused images are fit for purpose and whether the protocol has been followed. Prototype in use in John Radcliffe Hospital Oxford since June 2015
  • 14.  Images of the aorta or often much more variable in quality than those obtained during FAS due to bowel gas and depth (particularly high BMI)  The system also appears to analyse frozen images rather than live images  The system would need to be ‘trained’ with input from sonographers on thousands of aortic images  There are structures in the abdomen such as the IVC that can mimic the aorta  How would the screeners work with the system in screening clinics and would it add significantly to the length of the examination?  Would the system be able to assess the accuracy of calliper placement and also confirm that the widest diameter of the aorta has been measured? Automated peer review not currently appropriate for AAA
  • 15. Other ways of looking at performance
  • 16. 0 1 2 3 4 5 012345 L T 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 -0.6 -0.4 -0.2 0.0 0.2 0.4 0.6 1011 (L+T)/2 T-L n =988 (94%) n =60 (6%) Scatter plot Bland Altman Plot Longitudinal diam Using data? Slide kindly provided by Dave Wright
  • 17. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 -0.6 -0.4 -0.2 0.0 0.2 0.4 0.6 1945 (L+T)/2 T-L n =202 (88%) spread = 0.0779 n =28 (12%) Slide kindly provided by Dave Wright Very few 2.5 to 2.9cm aortas?
  • 18. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 -0.6 -0.4 -0.2 0.0 0.2 0.4 0.6 1011 (L+T)/2 T-L n =988 (94%) n =60 (6%) Slide kindly provided by Dave Wright Diameter between 2.5-2.9cm
  • 19. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 -0.6 -0.4 -0.2 0.0 0.2 0.4 0.6 9036 (L+T)/2 T-L n =1853 (98%) n =34 (2%) Slide kindly provided by Dave Wright Less variation between TS and LS diameter