CYP IAPT 2014 National Conference Navigating through service developments and improvement can at times be difficult. This difficulty can be even more challenging when working across organisations/ sectors. What is a challenge for one sector is a way of life for another. The language we use and our ideas of social philosophy can provide a rich platform to develop or a rocky shore of pitfalls. Throw into the mix the requirements of CYP IAPT and service transform and you could have a perfect storm! In this workshop we hope to show that these choppy waters can lead to calm seas and the value we can gain from each other far outweighs any difficulties. The value of understanding each other positions, learning from each other and ultimately delivering a better service is at the end of the day what we all want.

1. Cross Sector Working:
The Challenges of Difference between Health
Organisation's and 3rd Sector
Presented by: Tarnia Woods CAMHS Clinical Lead
Stuart Parsons Chief Officer WFW
Stuart
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2. The Journey
• What we did
• What were the issues we faced
• How did we over come the issues
• What was the outcome
• What we would have done differently
• Top Tips for surviving

3. Ashton Wigan Leigh Partnership
CYP-IAPT Cross Sector Working
Wigan Family
Welfare
Bridgewater
Tier 2
5 Boroughs
Tier 3

4. Navigating CYP-IAPT

5. Participation
Health / Specialist Service
• Service User participation
• Involving our young people
• Open only to young people
who attend the service
3rd Sector / WFW
• Totally inclusive for all
young people, parent
/carers and professionals
• Anyone could be a
customer
• Hearing the views of YP
who are not in service

6. Health
3rd Sector

7. Participation
• Employed a participation workers
• Held a Focus Event
• Devised questionnaires
What should mental health services look like?
• Professional questionnaire:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/VLSR9BR
• Young Person’s questionnaire:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SBXD95W
• Parent/carer questionnaire:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/W789DK7

8. Participation
• Re-launch of our participation group
• Raising Awareness and Breaking down Stigma
• Service Developments
• Promoting Wellbeing and Recovery
• Training
• Local Fixes
• Young People’s conference 22nd December

9. Accessibility
System Led – Choice / Partnership
Family Involvement
Agency involvement
Child Led Service – child directive
Only child Involvement
Very low DNA rate
Level of risk
Increasing lines of communication to ensure YP get the
best service they need as quickly as possible

10. Accessibility
Case Study – Joint working across agencies
Development of an Advocacy Post
Role of Advocacy in cross agency working

11. Evidence Based Practice
• Training
• CBT
• Parenting
• Supervisors training
• Service Leads
Challenges- How to meet the training
requirements !
Health Challenges – 3rd sector challenges

12. Evidence Base Practice
• Did not use all places
• Trainees are completing courses
• Developed a stronger working relationship
across partner agencies

13. Outcomes
Person centred
perspective – outcomes
are not a priority we
believe what the client
says
Outcomes are a tick
box exercise , not
relevant to
therapeutic work
No Relevance and
no feedback
No Time / too busy

14. Outcomes
Changing Hearts and Minds
Activity Focused Activity Focused
Outcome
Focused

15. Outcomes
• What did we do –
– Training in place
– Regular discussions in team meetings
– Agreed what we would do
• Challenge for 3rd Sector
– Action plans across all 3 partners
• Difference
– Ability to flex

16. What would we have done
differently

17. Recognising Difference
• Although we all work in the same area we
speak very differently !
• Service Transformation AND Partnership
Transformation
• CYP-IAPT provides the tool !

18. Tops Tips
• Communicate, Communicate, Communicate
• Pillars of CYP-IAPT are for staff as well as
service users
• Valuing our values
• In it together so have fun

19. Finally

20. Thank You

21. Exercise
• What is your experience of cross sector
working ?
– What has worked well?
– What have the challenges been ?