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Community Services Physioline
Darren Finnegan/ Catherine Bowe 14/11/2017
Fitting psychosocial assessment
into subjective questioning.
Learning Objectives
 Integration of the biopsychosocial information into the
subjective assessment.
 Development of psychosocial questioning skills to aid
clinician in practice.
 Combination of the biomedical, social and psychological
factors into effective clinical practice.
 Understand and discuss the role of physioline within the
different experience levels of the Physiotherapy cohort;
actively discuss common barriers to the service (patient and
therapist) (Cat B)
 Improve knowledge on how and when to self manage or refer
patients on where appropriate (Cat B)
‘Pain is perceived in response to a
perceived threat’
 Lorimer Moseley, 2007, Physical Therapy reviews, 169-178.
Assessment is a Treatment.
Introduction.
EQ5D/ Start back.
Current Templates
PL to PBP
Integration of
the
biopsychosocial
information
Structure of
Subjective Ax?
Integration of the biopsychosocial information
 Laura
• 48 year old with young children (15 & 12year old), works
as an administrator (PT)
• 5 year history of recurrent back pain flare-ups, usually
settle
• Present episode started 5 weeks ago, gradual onset
• GP prescribed Diclofenac, noted OA in her hands and L
knee, increased BP and type 2 diabetes
• Current pain level 5/10, localised to lumbar spine, no
referred pain
• GP assessed her and reports - O/E: Rather overweight,
posture OK. Reflexes, dermatomes, myotomes and slump,
SLR all NAD
• How would you manage this patient PL vs PBP?
Integration of the biopsychosocial information
• 48 year old with young children (15 & 12year old), works as an administrator
(PT)
• 5 year history of recurrent back pain flare-ups, usually settle
• Present episode started 5 weeks ago, gradual onset
• GP prescribed Diclofenac, noted OA in her hands and L knee, increased BP
and type 2 diabetes
• Current pain level 5/10, localised to lumbar spine, no referred pain
• GP assessed her and reports - O/E:Rather overweight, posture OK. Reflexes,
dermatomes, myotomes and slump, SLR all NAD
 Main complaint is sleep difficulties and the lack of improvement over the past
month
 She is thinking about giving up part time work and has stopped her child care role
for her Grandson (2 days/wk)
 Previous Physio last year wasn’t particularly successful. She wants to have some
answers why she has so much pain and feels at a loss to know how to help
herself get better
 How would you manage this patient now?
Development of psychosocial questioning skills
 Best predictor of injury is previous
injury.
 = Best predictor of pain is reaction
to previous injury?
 Limbic system- Emotion/Feelings
 Thalamocortical- Cognition/Think
 Palaeospinothalamic- Do/Don't
 Brooks et al, (2002)
 Childhood /Healthcare experiences
 Past experiences of others.
Past Experiences
Development of psychosocial questioning skills
 ‘The attempt to control or alter, the form, frequency or
situational sensitivity of internal experiences (thoughts,
feelings, sensations) even when doing so could cause
behavioural harm.’ (Luoma, 2007)
 Avoidance vs Persistence/Confronter
 External vs Internal Experiences.
 Verbal vs Non verbal cues
 Fear Avoidance behaviour
 Therapist behaviour on the phone?
 Task persistence behaviour, despite pain, is as
frequent as avoidance. (Crombez, 2012)
Pain Behaviour
Development of psychosocial questioning skills
 ‘A negative cognitive response to pain or anticipated
pain, characterized by a tendency to fixate on the pain
stimulus, magnify its threat & adopt a helpless outlook.’
(Sullivan et al 2001)
 Magnification
 Helplessness
 Rumination
 Different clinicians/professionals/ investigations.
 Tends to focus on the future-
 Language- Anxious, Worried, Afraid
Pain Catastrophizing
Development of psychosocial questioning skills
’Fear related protective behaviours are inhibited when the value
of another life goal outweighs the value of pain and is given
priority’ (Vlaeyen et al, 2016)
Development of psychosocial questioning skills
 Emotional connection to an injury?
 Chronological Injury Record?
 What is the perfect/best outcome of todays session/
Physio for you?
 Current understanding of what physio does?
 Most frustrating injury ever had?
 Worst pain ever had?
 Longest injury ever had?
 Why is that important to you?
 Language Used.
Problem patients? Case examples
Combination of the biomedical, social and
psychological factors
 45 year old female- R shoulder pain 18/12 ago- onset following
200+ mile drive.
 Physiotherapy- Failed- x3 sessions.
 CATS- USS- Supraspinatus Tendinopathy diagnosed &
injection- improved for 1/12
 Discharged from the service.
 Re-referred with flare up of her shoulder 2/12 post discharge
from CATS.
 What further subjective information would you request?
 Actions? PBP vs CATS vs self manage?
Combination of the biomedical, social and
psychological factors into practice.
 Ryan
• 55 year old man, works full time as a service engineer
• 10 years ago had a similar back problem, but was pain free
in-between episodes
• Present episode started 2 weeks ago, after a heavy lift at
work – he felt it ‘go’
• His GP prescribed Dicolfenac and cocodamol, and gave
him a 2 week sick note which is running out
• Currently pain is 7/10, improving daily, but still severe down
his right leg to back of calf
• GP Exam- O/E: Normal build, moderate lateral shift of his
spine to the left, muscle spasm visible, reflexes OK,
dermatomes affected (dull sensation R side), myotomes
OK, Slump and SLR positive R side (60deg). No red flags
present.
Combination of the biomedical, social
and psychological factors into practice.
• 55 year old man, works full time as a service engineer
• 10 years ago had a similar back problem, but was pain
free in-between episodes
• Present episode started 2 weeks ago, after a heavy lift at
work – he felt it ‘go’
• His GP prescribed Dicolfenac and cocodamol, and gave
him a 2 week sick note which is running out
• Currently pain is 7/10, improving daily, but still severe
down his right leg to back of calf
• He is not sure when to return to work as he does a lot of
driving
• Main complaint is throbbing leg pain, particularly at night
but managing during the day.
• Coper
Combination of the biomedical, social and
psychological factors into practice.
Understand and discuss the role of Physioline
within the different experience levels of the
Physiotherapy cohort;
Improve knowledge on how and when to self
manage or refer patients on where appropriate
Purpose of Physioline
 New grads and juniors- what are your thoughts on
the purpose of physioline?
 Seniors- Are your opinions the same as this or do
you think it has a different role that hasn't been
mentioned?
 what do you find the pros of PL is to the patient?
 what do you find the cons of PL to the patient is
Understand and discuss the role of physioline
within the different experience levels of the
Physiotherapy cohort;
 What do you find the pros of PL?
 What do you find the cons of PL?
Understand and discuss the role of physioline
within the different experience levels of the
Physiotherapy cohort;
 What is the purpose of Physioline?
 Physioline is a 20 min verbal consultation to gather a
detailed subjective assessment. After finishing this
assessment we should have:
• a provisional/ working diagnosis
• a plan for both the therapist(s) and the patient
• appropriate management options (F2F, Self Mx,
GP/A+E, Groups as per appropriate service)
Improve knowledge on how and when to
self manage or refer patients on where
appropriate
 Self management is an important part of a physioline
clinic. current KPI 30-35% self management of
patients (service dependant). Relevant for your PRP!!
🙋🏼
 This helps reduce workload in clinics
 Reduction in inappropriate patients needing to be
booked into clinic which allows faster access and
more appointment availability for patients who need to
be seen in clinic sooner.
 What typical examples have you that you would self
manage via physioline and clinical reason why these
would be appropriate?
Improve knowledge on how and when to self
manage or refer patients on where appropriate
Improve knowledge on how and when to self
manage or refer patients on where appropriate
 helps the patient take control of their symptoms and
condition and can manage on a long term basis by
using a BPS approach to a problem. This relates back
to Darren’s point on expectations and goals and why
this is important
 Self management from Physioline typically includes
more detail about their diagnosis and what this means
for them, advice on RICE, modifying activities,
probable healing times, reassurance, information
booklets and condition specific exercises.
 Give examples of patient that are not appropriate for
self management via PL???
Improve knowledge on how and when to self
manage or refer patients on where appropriate
 Ongoing feedback
 (individual and service)
 Future training
 (1:1, supervision and support)
 Self-reflection and self-audit
Summary
Physioline Contract Specific
 Low Back pain pathway- South Tees
 South Tees Templates
 WARNING to the clinician in clinic- Fear Avoidance,
Catastrophizing, Past Experiences of pain- May need to
be addressed in clinic.
 Structure of the Physioline Template
 Pain is a perceived threat so use physioline as a chance
to reduce this threat.
 Watch Inside Out!!!
References
 Lorimer Moseley, 2007, Physical Therapy reviews, 169-178
 Plisky et al (2006), Star excursion balance testing as a predictor
of lower limb extremity injuries in high school basketball players,
Journal of orthopaedic sports medicine, 36 (12).
 Brooks JC, Nurmikko TJ, Bimson WE, Singh KD, Roberts N.
fMRI of thermal pain: effects of stimulus laterality and
attention. Neuroimage. 2002;15:293–301. [PubMed]
 http;//www.bodyinmind.org

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Psychosocial Management & Subjective Assessment

  • 1. Community Services Physioline Darren Finnegan/ Catherine Bowe 14/11/2017 Fitting psychosocial assessment into subjective questioning.
  • 2. Learning Objectives  Integration of the biopsychosocial information into the subjective assessment.  Development of psychosocial questioning skills to aid clinician in practice.  Combination of the biomedical, social and psychological factors into effective clinical practice.  Understand and discuss the role of physioline within the different experience levels of the Physiotherapy cohort; actively discuss common barriers to the service (patient and therapist) (Cat B)  Improve knowledge on how and when to self manage or refer patients on where appropriate (Cat B)
  • 3. ‘Pain is perceived in response to a perceived threat’  Lorimer Moseley, 2007, Physical Therapy reviews, 169-178.
  • 4. Assessment is a Treatment. Introduction. EQ5D/ Start back. Current Templates PL to PBP Integration of the biopsychosocial information
  • 6. Integration of the biopsychosocial information  Laura • 48 year old with young children (15 & 12year old), works as an administrator (PT) • 5 year history of recurrent back pain flare-ups, usually settle • Present episode started 5 weeks ago, gradual onset • GP prescribed Diclofenac, noted OA in her hands and L knee, increased BP and type 2 diabetes • Current pain level 5/10, localised to lumbar spine, no referred pain • GP assessed her and reports - O/E: Rather overweight, posture OK. Reflexes, dermatomes, myotomes and slump, SLR all NAD • How would you manage this patient PL vs PBP?
  • 7. Integration of the biopsychosocial information • 48 year old with young children (15 & 12year old), works as an administrator (PT) • 5 year history of recurrent back pain flare-ups, usually settle • Present episode started 5 weeks ago, gradual onset • GP prescribed Diclofenac, noted OA in her hands and L knee, increased BP and type 2 diabetes • Current pain level 5/10, localised to lumbar spine, no referred pain • GP assessed her and reports - O/E:Rather overweight, posture OK. Reflexes, dermatomes, myotomes and slump, SLR all NAD  Main complaint is sleep difficulties and the lack of improvement over the past month  She is thinking about giving up part time work and has stopped her child care role for her Grandson (2 days/wk)  Previous Physio last year wasn’t particularly successful. She wants to have some answers why she has so much pain and feels at a loss to know how to help herself get better  How would you manage this patient now?
  • 8. Development of psychosocial questioning skills  Best predictor of injury is previous injury.  = Best predictor of pain is reaction to previous injury?  Limbic system- Emotion/Feelings  Thalamocortical- Cognition/Think  Palaeospinothalamic- Do/Don't  Brooks et al, (2002)  Childhood /Healthcare experiences  Past experiences of others. Past Experiences
  • 9. Development of psychosocial questioning skills  ‘The attempt to control or alter, the form, frequency or situational sensitivity of internal experiences (thoughts, feelings, sensations) even when doing so could cause behavioural harm.’ (Luoma, 2007)  Avoidance vs Persistence/Confronter  External vs Internal Experiences.  Verbal vs Non verbal cues  Fear Avoidance behaviour  Therapist behaviour on the phone?  Task persistence behaviour, despite pain, is as frequent as avoidance. (Crombez, 2012) Pain Behaviour
  • 10. Development of psychosocial questioning skills  ‘A negative cognitive response to pain or anticipated pain, characterized by a tendency to fixate on the pain stimulus, magnify its threat & adopt a helpless outlook.’ (Sullivan et al 2001)  Magnification  Helplessness  Rumination  Different clinicians/professionals/ investigations.  Tends to focus on the future-  Language- Anxious, Worried, Afraid Pain Catastrophizing
  • 11. Development of psychosocial questioning skills ’Fear related protective behaviours are inhibited when the value of another life goal outweighs the value of pain and is given priority’ (Vlaeyen et al, 2016)
  • 12. Development of psychosocial questioning skills  Emotional connection to an injury?  Chronological Injury Record?  What is the perfect/best outcome of todays session/ Physio for you?  Current understanding of what physio does?  Most frustrating injury ever had?  Worst pain ever had?  Longest injury ever had?  Why is that important to you?  Language Used.
  • 14. Combination of the biomedical, social and psychological factors  45 year old female- R shoulder pain 18/12 ago- onset following 200+ mile drive.  Physiotherapy- Failed- x3 sessions.  CATS- USS- Supraspinatus Tendinopathy diagnosed & injection- improved for 1/12  Discharged from the service.  Re-referred with flare up of her shoulder 2/12 post discharge from CATS.  What further subjective information would you request?  Actions? PBP vs CATS vs self manage?
  • 15. Combination of the biomedical, social and psychological factors into practice.  Ryan • 55 year old man, works full time as a service engineer • 10 years ago had a similar back problem, but was pain free in-between episodes • Present episode started 2 weeks ago, after a heavy lift at work – he felt it ‘go’ • His GP prescribed Dicolfenac and cocodamol, and gave him a 2 week sick note which is running out • Currently pain is 7/10, improving daily, but still severe down his right leg to back of calf • GP Exam- O/E: Normal build, moderate lateral shift of his spine to the left, muscle spasm visible, reflexes OK, dermatomes affected (dull sensation R side), myotomes OK, Slump and SLR positive R side (60deg). No red flags present.
  • 16. Combination of the biomedical, social and psychological factors into practice. • 55 year old man, works full time as a service engineer • 10 years ago had a similar back problem, but was pain free in-between episodes • Present episode started 2 weeks ago, after a heavy lift at work – he felt it ‘go’ • His GP prescribed Dicolfenac and cocodamol, and gave him a 2 week sick note which is running out • Currently pain is 7/10, improving daily, but still severe down his right leg to back of calf • He is not sure when to return to work as he does a lot of driving • Main complaint is throbbing leg pain, particularly at night but managing during the day. • Coper
  • 17. Combination of the biomedical, social and psychological factors into practice.
  • 18. Understand and discuss the role of Physioline within the different experience levels of the Physiotherapy cohort; Improve knowledge on how and when to self manage or refer patients on where appropriate
  • 19. Purpose of Physioline  New grads and juniors- what are your thoughts on the purpose of physioline?  Seniors- Are your opinions the same as this or do you think it has a different role that hasn't been mentioned?  what do you find the pros of PL is to the patient?  what do you find the cons of PL to the patient is
  • 20. Understand and discuss the role of physioline within the different experience levels of the Physiotherapy cohort;  What do you find the pros of PL?  What do you find the cons of PL?
  • 21. Understand and discuss the role of physioline within the different experience levels of the Physiotherapy cohort;  What is the purpose of Physioline?  Physioline is a 20 min verbal consultation to gather a detailed subjective assessment. After finishing this assessment we should have: • a provisional/ working diagnosis • a plan for both the therapist(s) and the patient • appropriate management options (F2F, Self Mx, GP/A+E, Groups as per appropriate service)
  • 22. Improve knowledge on how and when to self manage or refer patients on where appropriate  Self management is an important part of a physioline clinic. current KPI 30-35% self management of patients (service dependant). Relevant for your PRP!! 🙋🏼  This helps reduce workload in clinics  Reduction in inappropriate patients needing to be booked into clinic which allows faster access and more appointment availability for patients who need to be seen in clinic sooner.  What typical examples have you that you would self manage via physioline and clinical reason why these would be appropriate?
  • 23. Improve knowledge on how and when to self manage or refer patients on where appropriate
  • 24. Improve knowledge on how and when to self manage or refer patients on where appropriate  helps the patient take control of their symptoms and condition and can manage on a long term basis by using a BPS approach to a problem. This relates back to Darren’s point on expectations and goals and why this is important  Self management from Physioline typically includes more detail about their diagnosis and what this means for them, advice on RICE, modifying activities, probable healing times, reassurance, information booklets and condition specific exercises.  Give examples of patient that are not appropriate for self management via PL???
  • 25. Improve knowledge on how and when to self manage or refer patients on where appropriate  Ongoing feedback  (individual and service)  Future training  (1:1, supervision and support)  Self-reflection and self-audit
  • 26. Summary Physioline Contract Specific  Low Back pain pathway- South Tees  South Tees Templates  WARNING to the clinician in clinic- Fear Avoidance, Catastrophizing, Past Experiences of pain- May need to be addressed in clinic.  Structure of the Physioline Template  Pain is a perceived threat so use physioline as a chance to reduce this threat.  Watch Inside Out!!!
  • 27. References  Lorimer Moseley, 2007, Physical Therapy reviews, 169-178  Plisky et al (2006), Star excursion balance testing as a predictor of lower limb extremity injuries in high school basketball players, Journal of orthopaedic sports medicine, 36 (12).  Brooks JC, Nurmikko TJ, Bimson WE, Singh KD, Roberts N. fMRI of thermal pain: effects of stimulus laterality and attention. Neuroimage. 2002;15:293–301. [PubMed]  http;//www.bodyinmind.org

Editor's Notes

  1. Bear this picture in mind if a patient googles psychosocial – Song from slipknot.
  2. Physioline is an opportunity to influence this perceived threat that the patient has experienced.
  3. Assessment is treatment from the second we pick up the phone to the end of their episode of care. Physioline is an opportunity to reduce some of this perceived threat from the patient. Start back course last week- discussed about the skillset involved in integrating this into clinical practice can be difficult. Using measures such as start back to identify the psychometric properties which may indicate you need to spend more time on the psychology and social side of the assessment. The structure of your Pl consult- it can be changed. We do not need to focus on/adhere to the templates- We have all had conversations with people and within a few mins forgot what was talked about in the middle of the conversation. Patients remember what came last and at the beginning. How do we normally end the conversation? CES S&S and information.
  4. Literature which suggest to let a patient talk for 2.5 minutes they disclose most the information relating to their injury. David O’Sullivan material and psychology input- We are in the privileged position to listen to the patient and empathise with them. Follow this up with summation of the key info in similar wording- Consider the comprehension of the individual- average reading age of those in Sunderland is 11years old. Physiotherapy is changing away from biomedical approach towards BPS model- so the delivery of physioline has to change as a result. thus integrate BPS into this shift. How do you end a consultation? Start a consultation. Warning about CES_ Has anyone suggested to you what could be causing your back pain? Has anyone else suggested otherwise? Understanding of this/feeling of this/ sense to you? Does that explain all your symptoms? How do you feel you have been treated by medical/healthcare professionals so far. Sleep- What's making sleep difficult? Due to pain or switching off mentally Do you stay in bed or get up?
  5. Main complaint is sleep difficulties and the lack of improvement over the past month She is thinking about giving up part time work and has stopped her child care role for her Grandson (2 days/wk.) Previous Physio last year wasn’t particularly successful. She wants to have some answers why she has so much pain and feels at a loss to know how to help herself get better
  6. Interaction with Millie Stevens- GB basketball – ‘Do you want to strap up my knee?’ response was no- Sat beside head coach, Chema Buceta, psychology professor in Madrid. Player was asking my confidence in her knee. ‘Do you’ vs ‘will you’ Think/feel/Do =cognitive behavioural model - Pixar movie Inside out. Some research going into childhood psychology and parental influence on development of chronic pain. Dave O’Sullivan course- psychology info. Individual responses to certain words –exercise. 21 year old with ankle sprain ATFL-gr1 –spent x3 weeks in bed post injury as that is what my dad (previous discectomies) did- 1/52 post ADP- so all excited about practice then realised psychology involvement. Past experiences of others can influence symptoms- i.e.- I had Mrs X 45 year old female in with a shoulder problem like this last week, which is settling nicely with these exercises. _ Going to book you in with Therapist X- who is a specialist in Shoulders. Jain and Jain 2011- neurochemistry link pain and depression–serotonin (happiness) downregulation- by cortisol production- stress hormone & dopamine- social media hits- hormone pleasure. Robert Lustig- paediatric endocrinologist in USA.
  7. Personal example. Avoidance and distraction can happen in many ways- Freund reported the Irish are impervious to psychoanalysis-as they bury things so deep. External Experiences- Situations, activities. Keeping busy, studying, running and constantly being around people… growing up in a pub, constantly around people. Internal experiences- emotions and cognitions that this stirred up. Runners- either running towards something or away from something. Chap in other day ran everyday for 12.5 years. ??? Verbal – high VAS- expressions of pain t/o consult, grunts, crying, moaning. speech- volume- hesitancy, high pitched, Non verbal- use of modalities, holding area- rubbing area- medication usage, devices, drastic changes to habitual patterns.
  8. Speed of speaking, high toned, breathing rate and depth. Magnification- I become afraid that the pain will get worse- Increased bodyscanning. Rumination- cows- stomach- going over and over it. Helplessness- nothing I can do to reduce the pain.
  9. Based Dave O’Sullivan's (Physio who works with England National Rugby League) work with Karl Morris- sports psychologist- in Rugby League. Tapping into the emotions and past experiences that are deep rooted in the patients journey.
  10. Seen initially- following flare up- she presented and reported she had driven 50-70miles to see her friend. Asked about driving, type of car, person she was with and anything else she was doing that day. She had learned how to drive 3-4 years previously. Did she enjoy driving? No, was the answer- worried sick as her cousin killed someone in a car accident 8years ago. On further questioning, she never had an injury before.
  11. He is not sure when to return to work as he has a lot of driving Main complaint is throbbing leg pain, particularly at night but managing during the day.
  12. Walking- Aggravating factors- how far, type, duration, gradient, etc. Use this as a goal for setting- once patient arrives in clinic can use this as a benchmark. Expectations. To be booked into clinic- NOT JUST FOR AN OBJECTIVE, with a plan and structure. Signpost the patient.