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                            Meeting held on 10th March 2011 at
  The Chartered Institute of Arbitrators (CIArb), 12 Bloomsbury Square, London, WC1A 2LP
Competition Act reminder

•   The role of this Forum is to facilitate business efficiencies in the personal finance sector for the benefit
    of Distributors, Product Providers and most importantly Consumers.

•   All present are reminded of the requirements of the Competition Act and members’ attention is drawn to
    the guidelines, which are available.

•   In essence, all Members shall refrain from any conduct or participation in any activities which could lead
    to a restriction of competition between the Members or any third party who is a competitor of a Member
    or Product Provider or which could in any other way lead to an infringement of UK and/or EC rules on
    competition law.

•   Output of the meeting must be complete, we will pause before each new section to agree and
    summarise the issues covered.

•   Role of the chairman is to steer the group clear of conversations that may impinge on The Act.

•   If the chairman fails to do this, delegates should point this out in the meeting and if the situation does
    not change should leave the meeting.



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Agenda
    •    This pack contains the slides presented at the Protecting Forum meeting held on 10 th March 2011.


    •    Slides with a      purple banner   represent the meeting presentation; slides with a   gold banner   represent additional views and conclusions
         from the meeting. Members’ comments, additional text and actions are shown in purple text.


Agenda                                                                                                                                                Page

•       Introductions & agenda                                                                                                                         1-3

•       Executive Summary                                                                                                                              4-5

•       Attendees & apologies                                                                                                                           6

•       Objectives and actions                                                                                                                         7-9

•       AOB and meeting dates                                                                                                                          10




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Executive summary
Policy re-instatement     •   Product Providers confirmed that process improvements were unlikely to be impeded by historic practices,
practices: the findings       technology thought practices will be affected by their re-Insurer treaties.

                          •   Advisers cited a number of reasons why re-instatement can be better than re-broking e.g. Client makes an
                              “innocent” error, e.g. changes bank details and this causes premium/policy to lapse, or accidentally cancels a DD
                              and wants to re-instate their policy.

                          •   One Insurer asked if it really was easier for Adviser to rewrite a policy rather than reinstate it. A strong set of
                              messages from Advisers confirmed that in practice yes, Providers make it much easier to write a new plan than
                              reinstate an old one.

                          •   Advisers would actually like to see Providers remove some of the barriers they face when seeking to re-instate
                              policies and increase the speed at which things happen.

Policy re-instatement     •   Following a robust and lengthy discussion, an action was agreed to create a first draft of a good practice document
practices: next steps         on the subject of policy re-instatement for firms to review and comment upon prior to the next Protection Forum
                              meeting.

                          •   The purpose of this activity is to define what good practice around policy re-instatement should look like and then it
                              would be up to individual Insurers to decide to adopt the good practice statement.

European Court Gender     •   Session held under The Chatham House rule (http://www.chathamhouse.org.uk/about/chathamhouserule/) .
ruling: discussion
                          •   The discussion focused on the role of portals in light of this ruling e.g. There was a high possibility that in future,
about operational
                              quotations obtained via a portal could be significantly less accurate than today.
impacts

                          •   Distributors expressed concern at the prospect of portals offering less accurate quotations and this was not a
                              desirable situation.


                          •   Parties agreed to keep this issue on the agenda for the next meeting.


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Executive summary
Signature collection for   •   F&TRC distributed an A3 draft document that has been developed to demonstrate to the Provider community, just
e-new business: finding        how complex the activity of collecting Client signatures had become for Distributors.
a smarter way to work
                           •   This document was very much welcomed by the Advisers and several Providers recognised that it demonstrated a
                               clear case for greater consistency of approach amongst Providers.


                           •   Providers countered that they would be interested to understand from the Distributor community what a good
                               process would look like in their eyes.


                           •   It was agreed that F&TRC work with Distributors to identify a good practice model for the collection of signatures
                               relating to new business applications, revised terms and AMRA.

Tele-interviewing:         •   Advisers stated there was a need for more clarity and consistency around:
Adviser views on how                •   How Providers can request a tele-interview.
these services have
                                    •   Who calls the customer to set up the tele-interview.
developed and what
needs to be improved                •   How Advisers are informed when tele-interviews are not proceeded with i.e. Client misses it.

                           •   F&TRC agreed to undertake a current state assessment of Provider approaches to tele-interviewing today, this
                               would allow firms to take this discussion forward.

Adviser remuneration       •   There is growing appetite amongst Adviser firms to be able to flex their commission payments, though the meeting
for Protection business        did recognise that not all firms were asking for this and not all firms were ready to make the move just yet.

                           •   Essentially, Providers do seem to offer commission flexibility though not via the portals which is where Advisers
                               would like to see this supported, but there was a need to clarify precisely how Providers approached this.

                           •   F&TRC to conduct a current state assessment of how Providers currently support commission flexibility and to
                               bring this information back to the next meeting to support further discussion on the topic.



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Attendees & apologies
                                                                  Distributors

Direct Life & Pensions                                               Master Adviser
LifeSearch                                                           Sesame Bankhall

LifeSearch                                                           True Potential

London & Country

                                           Product Providers, Re-Insurers and System Suppliers
Allfinanz                                                            L&G
Allfinanz                                                            LV=
Aviva                                                                LV=
Axa                                                                  Exeter Friendly
Ageas Protect                                                        Scottish Provident & Bright Grey
Friends Provident                                                    Zurich

GenRe

                                                                      FTRC
                                                 Poppy Achilles, Ian McKenna & Kevin Carr



                                                                   Apologies
            Highclere Financial Services                          Pru Protect                                 Royal Bank of Scotland

                 Positive Solutions                                Pro-active                                          AEGON



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Objectives
Objectives

• Hold a detailed discussion on the subject of policy re-instatement issues and identify the next steps needed                   
  to take this issue forward.

• Review research demonstrating how complex the process to collect Client signatures has become for                              
  Advisers and identify the key messages Providers should take back to their businesses concerning this
  issue.




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Actions

Date of meeting   No.                                       Task                                              Deadline        Resource name           Status


                        F&TRC to approach all firms who have yet to sign off the good practice
   02/12/10       85    document on business retention, to obtain their feedback and then formally            10/12/10             F&TRC             Complete
                        publish a final version of the document to all Forum members.

                                                                                                                                                Underway – will be
                        F&TRC to conduct a current state assessment of product Provider
                                                                                                                                                 published before
   02/12/10       86    adherence to good practice guide on business retention and to bring back              18/02/11             F&TRC
                                                                                                                                                 the end of March
                        findings to March 2011 Protection Forum meeting.
                                                                                                                                                       2011

                        F&TRC to contact Distributors to arrange a teleconference call to discuss
                                                                                                                                F&TRC and
   02/12/10       87    which practices they feel constitute good practice, when seeking to re-instate        28/02/11                               Complete
                                                                                                                                 Distributors
                        policies and why.

                        F&TRC to contact product Providers to ask them to confirm which factors
                                                                                                                                  F&TRC &
   02/12/10       88    influence their policy re-instatement practices and if there are any reasons          21/02/11                               Complete
                                                                                                                                  Providers
                        why certain practices could not be modified as a result.


                        F&TRC to collate findings from both groups on business retention practices
   02/12/10       89                                                                                          04/03/11             F&TRC             Complete
                        and bring information back to March Protection Forum for firms to review.




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New actions
Date of                                                                                                          Resource
           No.   Task                                                                                                          Deadline                  Comments
meeting                                                                                                           name

                                                                                                                 Legal &
10/03/11   20    Legal & General to provide a high level summary of issues they encounter with BACS.                            1st April
                                                                                                                 General

                 Ian McKenna to contact Paul Smee at BACS to discuss the issues raised by Providers
10/03/11   21                                                                                                     F&TRC         13th May
                 regarding receiving direct debit mandate instructions from Advisers on behalf of Clients,
                 F&TRC to contact Insurers to ascertain their practice around payment periods, what time
10/03/11   22    periods are allowed and if cover is in force whilst the plan is in place. Information will be    F&TRC         27th May
                 collated and shared with the Distributors
                 F&TRC to use the feedback created by Advisers and the meeting to create a first draft of
                 a good practice document on the subject of policy re-instatement for firms to review and
10/03/11   23    comment upon prior to the next Protection Forum meeting. This should include a                   F&TRC         27th May
                 mapping of current processes as well as suggested good practices to streamline existing
                 practices (the latter will also include the treatment of commission claw backs).
                 Product Providers and Re-Insurers to each provide an update on the ECJ Ruling and the      Product
10/03/11   24    key issues they believe need to be discussed with the Distributor community at the next Providers and         16th June
                 meeting. That will be held under The Chatham House Rule.                                 Re-Insurers
                                                                                                                                            Further iteration has been issued and
                 F&TRC to further develop the signature mapping document and distribute a revise copy
10/03/11   25                                                                                                     F&TRC         1st April   providers are asked to complete
                 to all parties following the meeting.
                                                                                                                                            missing information.
                 F&TRC to work with Distributors to identify a good practice model for the collection of
10/03/11   26                                                                                                     F&TRC         20th May
                 signatures relating to new business applications, revised terms and AMRA.

                 Set up a brief teleconference call to understand what improvements Lifesearch, Master
10/03/11   27                                                                                                     F&TRC         6th May
                 Adviser, DLP and London & Country would like to see to the tele-interviewing process.
                 Undertake a current state assessment of Provider approaches to tele-interviewing today.
                 •    This would seek to understand how Providers deal with situations such as: How do
10/03/11   28         you deal with customers who are not there? How many times do you recall the                 F&TRC         27th May
                      Client? How many phone numbers do you use? Do you offer the option of daytime
                      and evening calls? How do you deal with volume of calls? What are all the different
                      bits of information you need to capture?
                 F&TRC to conduct a current state assessment of how Providers currently support
10/03/11   29    commission flexibility and to bring this information back to the next meeting to support         F&TRC        10th June
                 further discussion on the topic.
10/03/11         F&TRC to investigate resourcing and hosting a Protection Forum Conference and what
           30                                                                                                     F&TRC        16th June
                 additional costs that might incur and how that might be funded.




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AOB & 2011 dates
Protection Forum meeting dates for 2011 (in Blue):

  • June 16th

  • September 22nd

  • December 8th




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Protection Forum March2011 Executive Summary

  • 1. Protection Forum Delivering better outcomes to advisers and consumers Meeting held on 10th March 2011 at The Chartered Institute of Arbitrators (CIArb), 12 Bloomsbury Square, London, WC1A 2LP
  • 2. Competition Act reminder • The role of this Forum is to facilitate business efficiencies in the personal finance sector for the benefit of Distributors, Product Providers and most importantly Consumers. • All present are reminded of the requirements of the Competition Act and members’ attention is drawn to the guidelines, which are available. • In essence, all Members shall refrain from any conduct or participation in any activities which could lead to a restriction of competition between the Members or any third party who is a competitor of a Member or Product Provider or which could in any other way lead to an infringement of UK and/or EC rules on competition law. • Output of the meeting must be complete, we will pause before each new section to agree and summarise the issues covered. • Role of the chairman is to steer the group clear of conversations that may impinge on The Act. • If the chairman fails to do this, delegates should point this out in the meeting and if the situation does not change should leave the meeting. Distributor Forum is managed and facilitated by F&TRC. Protection Forum – March Output ©FTRC 2011 Not to be reproduced without written permission 2
  • 3. Agenda • This pack contains the slides presented at the Protecting Forum meeting held on 10 th March 2011. • Slides with a purple banner represent the meeting presentation; slides with a gold banner represent additional views and conclusions from the meeting. Members’ comments, additional text and actions are shown in purple text. Agenda Page • Introductions & agenda 1-3 • Executive Summary 4-5 • Attendees & apologies 6 • Objectives and actions 7-9 • AOB and meeting dates 10 Distributor Forum is managed and facilitated by F&TRC. Protection Forum – March Output ©FTRC 2011 Not to be reproduced without written permission 3
  • 4. Executive summary Policy re-instatement • Product Providers confirmed that process improvements were unlikely to be impeded by historic practices, practices: the findings technology thought practices will be affected by their re-Insurer treaties. • Advisers cited a number of reasons why re-instatement can be better than re-broking e.g. Client makes an “innocent” error, e.g. changes bank details and this causes premium/policy to lapse, or accidentally cancels a DD and wants to re-instate their policy. • One Insurer asked if it really was easier for Adviser to rewrite a policy rather than reinstate it. A strong set of messages from Advisers confirmed that in practice yes, Providers make it much easier to write a new plan than reinstate an old one. • Advisers would actually like to see Providers remove some of the barriers they face when seeking to re-instate policies and increase the speed at which things happen. Policy re-instatement • Following a robust and lengthy discussion, an action was agreed to create a first draft of a good practice document practices: next steps on the subject of policy re-instatement for firms to review and comment upon prior to the next Protection Forum meeting. • The purpose of this activity is to define what good practice around policy re-instatement should look like and then it would be up to individual Insurers to decide to adopt the good practice statement. European Court Gender • Session held under The Chatham House rule (http://www.chathamhouse.org.uk/about/chathamhouserule/) . ruling: discussion • The discussion focused on the role of portals in light of this ruling e.g. There was a high possibility that in future, about operational quotations obtained via a portal could be significantly less accurate than today. impacts • Distributors expressed concern at the prospect of portals offering less accurate quotations and this was not a desirable situation. • Parties agreed to keep this issue on the agenda for the next meeting. Distributor Forum is managed and facilitated by F&TRC. Protection Forum – March Output ©FTRC 2011 Not to be reproduced without written permission 4
  • 5. Executive summary Signature collection for • F&TRC distributed an A3 draft document that has been developed to demonstrate to the Provider community, just e-new business: finding how complex the activity of collecting Client signatures had become for Distributors. a smarter way to work • This document was very much welcomed by the Advisers and several Providers recognised that it demonstrated a clear case for greater consistency of approach amongst Providers. • Providers countered that they would be interested to understand from the Distributor community what a good process would look like in their eyes. • It was agreed that F&TRC work with Distributors to identify a good practice model for the collection of signatures relating to new business applications, revised terms and AMRA. Tele-interviewing: • Advisers stated there was a need for more clarity and consistency around: Adviser views on how • How Providers can request a tele-interview. these services have • Who calls the customer to set up the tele-interview. developed and what needs to be improved • How Advisers are informed when tele-interviews are not proceeded with i.e. Client misses it. • F&TRC agreed to undertake a current state assessment of Provider approaches to tele-interviewing today, this would allow firms to take this discussion forward. Adviser remuneration • There is growing appetite amongst Adviser firms to be able to flex their commission payments, though the meeting for Protection business did recognise that not all firms were asking for this and not all firms were ready to make the move just yet. • Essentially, Providers do seem to offer commission flexibility though not via the portals which is where Advisers would like to see this supported, but there was a need to clarify precisely how Providers approached this. • F&TRC to conduct a current state assessment of how Providers currently support commission flexibility and to bring this information back to the next meeting to support further discussion on the topic. Distributor Forum is managed and facilitated by F&TRC. Protection Forum – March Output ©FTRC 2011 Not to be reproduced without written permission 5
  • 6. Attendees & apologies Distributors Direct Life & Pensions Master Adviser LifeSearch Sesame Bankhall LifeSearch True Potential London & Country Product Providers, Re-Insurers and System Suppliers Allfinanz L&G Allfinanz LV= Aviva LV= Axa Exeter Friendly Ageas Protect Scottish Provident & Bright Grey Friends Provident Zurich GenRe FTRC Poppy Achilles, Ian McKenna & Kevin Carr Apologies Highclere Financial Services Pru Protect Royal Bank of Scotland Positive Solutions Pro-active AEGON Distributor Forum is managed and facilitated by F&TRC. Protection Forum – March Output ©FTRC 2011 Not to be reproduced without written permission 6
  • 7. Objectives Objectives • Hold a detailed discussion on the subject of policy re-instatement issues and identify the next steps needed  to take this issue forward. • Review research demonstrating how complex the process to collect Client signatures has become for  Advisers and identify the key messages Providers should take back to their businesses concerning this issue. Distributor Forum is managed and facilitated by F&TRC. Protection Forum – March Output ©FTRC 2011 Not to be reproduced without written permission 7
  • 8. Actions Date of meeting No. Task Deadline Resource name Status F&TRC to approach all firms who have yet to sign off the good practice 02/12/10 85 document on business retention, to obtain their feedback and then formally 10/12/10 F&TRC Complete publish a final version of the document to all Forum members. Underway – will be F&TRC to conduct a current state assessment of product Provider published before 02/12/10 86 adherence to good practice guide on business retention and to bring back 18/02/11 F&TRC the end of March findings to March 2011 Protection Forum meeting. 2011 F&TRC to contact Distributors to arrange a teleconference call to discuss F&TRC and 02/12/10 87 which practices they feel constitute good practice, when seeking to re-instate 28/02/11 Complete Distributors policies and why. F&TRC to contact product Providers to ask them to confirm which factors F&TRC & 02/12/10 88 influence their policy re-instatement practices and if there are any reasons 21/02/11 Complete Providers why certain practices could not be modified as a result. F&TRC to collate findings from both groups on business retention practices 02/12/10 89 04/03/11 F&TRC Complete and bring information back to March Protection Forum for firms to review. Distributor Forum is managed and facilitated by F&TRC. Protection Forum – March Output ©FTRC 2011 Not to be reproduced without written permission 8
  • 9. New actions Date of Resource No. Task Deadline Comments meeting name Legal & 10/03/11 20 Legal & General to provide a high level summary of issues they encounter with BACS. 1st April General Ian McKenna to contact Paul Smee at BACS to discuss the issues raised by Providers 10/03/11 21 F&TRC 13th May regarding receiving direct debit mandate instructions from Advisers on behalf of Clients, F&TRC to contact Insurers to ascertain their practice around payment periods, what time 10/03/11 22 periods are allowed and if cover is in force whilst the plan is in place. Information will be F&TRC 27th May collated and shared with the Distributors F&TRC to use the feedback created by Advisers and the meeting to create a first draft of a good practice document on the subject of policy re-instatement for firms to review and 10/03/11 23 comment upon prior to the next Protection Forum meeting. This should include a F&TRC 27th May mapping of current processes as well as suggested good practices to streamline existing practices (the latter will also include the treatment of commission claw backs). Product Providers and Re-Insurers to each provide an update on the ECJ Ruling and the Product 10/03/11 24 key issues they believe need to be discussed with the Distributor community at the next Providers and 16th June meeting. That will be held under The Chatham House Rule. Re-Insurers Further iteration has been issued and F&TRC to further develop the signature mapping document and distribute a revise copy 10/03/11 25 F&TRC 1st April providers are asked to complete to all parties following the meeting. missing information. F&TRC to work with Distributors to identify a good practice model for the collection of 10/03/11 26 F&TRC 20th May signatures relating to new business applications, revised terms and AMRA. Set up a brief teleconference call to understand what improvements Lifesearch, Master 10/03/11 27 F&TRC 6th May Adviser, DLP and London & Country would like to see to the tele-interviewing process. Undertake a current state assessment of Provider approaches to tele-interviewing today. • This would seek to understand how Providers deal with situations such as: How do 10/03/11 28 you deal with customers who are not there? How many times do you recall the F&TRC 27th May Client? How many phone numbers do you use? Do you offer the option of daytime and evening calls? How do you deal with volume of calls? What are all the different bits of information you need to capture? F&TRC to conduct a current state assessment of how Providers currently support 10/03/11 29 commission flexibility and to bring this information back to the next meeting to support F&TRC 10th June further discussion on the topic. 10/03/11 F&TRC to investigate resourcing and hosting a Protection Forum Conference and what 30 F&TRC 16th June additional costs that might incur and how that might be funded. Distributor Forum is managed and facilitated by F&TRC. Protection Forum – March Output ©FTRC 2011 Not to be reproduced without written permission 9
  • 10. AOB & 2011 dates Protection Forum meeting dates for 2011 (in Blue): • June 16th • September 22nd • December 8th Distributor Forum is managed and facilitated by F&TRC. Protection Forum – March Output ©FTRC 2011 Not to be reproduced without written permission 10