Keep the Competitive Edge
and Reduce Churn
Tara Dwyer
Webinar Coordinator
Product ManagementToday
Johanna Rothman
Management Consultant,
Rothman Consulting Group
September 12, 2023
9:30am PDT, 12:30pm EDT
featuring
moderated by
Revenera helps product executives build better products, accelerate
time to value and monetize what matters. Revenera's leading solutions
help software and technology companies:
• drive top line revenue with modern software monetization,
• understand usage and compliance with software usage analytics,
• empower the use of open source with software composition analysis,
and
• deliver an excellent user experience
for embedded, on-premises, cloud and SaaS products.
To learn more, visit www.revenera.com.
TO DIAL IN AND USE YOUR
TELEPHONE:
Dial: +1 646 558 8656
Webinar ID: 865 8310 4876
Passcode: 305913
This Information Is also available In your
webinar confirmation email from Zoom.
Have a question for our panelist?
Type into the Q&A panel to
interact with our speaker!
Johanna Rothman
Management Consultant, Rothman Consulting Group
Keep the Competitive Edge
and Reduce Churn
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
We want to retain customers
Sometimes, they leave unpredictably
Why?
5
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Personal Stories
• Change in UI/UX
• Change in pricing structure
• Discontent with original (“only”)
choice, see an alternative (sometimes
feature-superior, sometimes not)
6
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
People Leave Products Because…
• No longer need any solution
• Product no longer offers the same
impact:
• Price
• Satisfaction (experience)
• Experience using the product
outweighs the impact the customer
receives
7
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Insuf
fi
cient Impact —> Frustration
Frustration —> Churn
8
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Our Agenda
1. Why customers start to use your product (the hook & impact)
2. When you care about churn and when you might not care as much
3. Measures to consider at which points in the product’s lifecycle
4. Leading and lagging indicators
5. Churn reduction strategies
9
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
1.Your Product’s Hook
• Your product’s hook is the promise
you make to your ideal customers
• Who do you want to buy your
product?
• What problems does your product
solve for those people?
• Your product offers impact to solve
those problems
10
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Consider Personas for Identi
fi
cation
• Personas help you explain (to internal
people)
• Ideal customers
• Ideal problems
• What matters to those customers
(impact)
11
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
2.What Matters to Which Customers When
12
From Create Your
Successful Agile Project
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Early Cares About Churn
• When you’re discovering the product
and the customers, you might want
churn
• By the time you want to cross the
chasm, you only want additional
customers and to reduce churn
• Enthusiasts want “more!”
• Visionaries want “solve this problem!”
13
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Implications for the Early Market
• Flexibility in problems you choose to
solve (& impact the product makes)
• Customers expect frequent releases
• Flexibility in defects
• But as you approach the
mainstream…
14
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Mainstream Flips Everything
• Your maximum number of customers
• Reducing churn here matters the
most
• Notice what matters to them:
• They don’t need a lot more features,
but they need the features to work
• They need relatively frequent
releases
15
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Retain Customers as Product Approaches EOL
• Most products appear to be “cash
cows” here
• They don’t care much about new
features as long as the features work
(max impact)
• Goal: Retain customers and reduce
churn
16
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Retain customers by offering impact.
Product meets their expectations.
17
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
3. Chasm/Mainstream Measures
• As you increase the number of
customers, they expect:
• Time to value is short
• “Typical” product paths work (solve
their problems with maximum
impact)
• Suf
fi
cient features to solve most
of their problems
• Installation/registration ease
18
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Logs for Insights/Measures
• Leading indicators:
• Abandon the registration
(insuf
fi
cient ease)
• Requests for more features (not
solving the problems the customer
has)
• Requests for “how to” videos/
documentation
• Each of these says something isn’t quite
right
19
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
4. Indicators
• First, remember this:
• The more you instrument the code,
the faster you can receive the
measures
• Validate your data with more than
one user’s experience
• Remember that the older the data,
the less valuable it might be
20
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
For all products:
How easy is it to onboard the
customer?
21
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
What to Measure for Leading Indicators
• Abandoned registration
• Never-installation
• Before the customer starts, they
stopped
• Gather qualitative data to understand
why:
• No survey.Talk with them.
22
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Lagging Indicators: From Logs to Measures
• Defect escapes:
• Any measurable response time
• More features: Gather request data
from Customer Support/Success
• How-to requests: Instrument requests
for documentation or videos
23
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Learn Which Features Have Most Impact for Whom
• Consider these ideas:
• Most popular features by persona
• Least used features overall
• Who checks for video/text
documentation?
24
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Product Usage Measures
• Instrument the product to detect
churn here:
• Defect escapes in the typical paths
• Intermittent problems
• Substantial UI change
• Fee/payment changes and (lagging)
usage changes
25
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Time Series to Af
fi
liate Big Changes with Dates
• Example:
• Product release on July 1
• Huge bump in how-to videos and
Customer Success requests post-
release
• Time Series can help everyone see
that as early as possible
26
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
5. Churn Reduction Strategies Depend on the Change
• Different users: create more A/B tests
• User experience: experiment
fi
rst
• Pay structure:Analyze your
competition and see where your
customers have alternatives
• Watch the market for challengers to
your product
• Verify your product’s promise matches
the product’s reality
27
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Big Ideas
• Remember what matters to your ideal
customers and when
• Instrument the code & product and
use a time series to see changes early
• Pay attention to when users contact
you
• Always clarify your ideal customers
and the promise you make them
28
© 2023 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Let’s Stay in Touch
• Pragmatic Manager:
• www.jrothman.com/
pragmaticmanager
• Please link with me on LinkedIn
29
/in/taradwyer/
Q&A
Johanna Rothman Tara Dwyer
Webinar Coordinator, Product Management Today
/in/johannarothman/
jrothman.com
Management Consultant, Rothman Consulting Group
productmanagementtoday.com
Revenera invites you to learn more about reducing churn and other ways of growing
recurring revenue with product usage data!
Check out the Revenue Optimization Guide for Software Suppliers available on Revenera’s blog,
and then join Vic DeMarines, Revenera’s VP, Product Management for Software
Monetization for a 25 minute webinar on leveraging entitlement usage data to hit your
revenue target.
Find the article here: Find the webinar here:

Keep the Competitive Edge and Reduce Churn

  • 1.
    Keep the CompetitiveEdge and Reduce Churn Tara Dwyer Webinar Coordinator Product ManagementToday Johanna Rothman Management Consultant, Rothman Consulting Group September 12, 2023 9:30am PDT, 12:30pm EDT featuring moderated by
  • 2.
    Revenera helps productexecutives build better products, accelerate time to value and monetize what matters. Revenera's leading solutions help software and technology companies: • drive top line revenue with modern software monetization, • understand usage and compliance with software usage analytics, • empower the use of open source with software composition analysis, and • deliver an excellent user experience for embedded, on-premises, cloud and SaaS products. To learn more, visit www.revenera.com.
  • 3.
    TO DIAL INAND USE YOUR TELEPHONE: Dial: +1 646 558 8656 Webinar ID: 865 8310 4876 Passcode: 305913 This Information Is also available In your webinar confirmation email from Zoom. Have a question for our panelist? Type into the Q&A panel to interact with our speaker!
  • 4.
    Johanna Rothman Management Consultant,Rothman Consulting Group Keep the Competitive Edge and Reduce Churn
  • 5.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman We want to retain customers Sometimes, they leave unpredictably Why? 5
  • 6.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Personal Stories • Change in UI/UX • Change in pricing structure • Discontent with original (“only”) choice, see an alternative (sometimes feature-superior, sometimes not) 6
  • 7.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman People Leave Products Because… • No longer need any solution • Product no longer offers the same impact: • Price • Satisfaction (experience) • Experience using the product outweighs the impact the customer receives 7
  • 8.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Insuf fi cient Impact —> Frustration Frustration —> Churn 8
  • 9.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Our Agenda 1. Why customers start to use your product (the hook & impact) 2. When you care about churn and when you might not care as much 3. Measures to consider at which points in the product’s lifecycle 4. Leading and lagging indicators 5. Churn reduction strategies 9
  • 10.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman 1.Your Product’s Hook • Your product’s hook is the promise you make to your ideal customers • Who do you want to buy your product? • What problems does your product solve for those people? • Your product offers impact to solve those problems 10
  • 11.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Consider Personas for Identi fi cation • Personas help you explain (to internal people) • Ideal customers • Ideal problems • What matters to those customers (impact) 11
  • 12.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman 2.What Matters to Which Customers When 12 From Create Your Successful Agile Project
  • 13.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Early Cares About Churn • When you’re discovering the product and the customers, you might want churn • By the time you want to cross the chasm, you only want additional customers and to reduce churn • Enthusiasts want “more!” • Visionaries want “solve this problem!” 13
  • 14.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Implications for the Early Market • Flexibility in problems you choose to solve (& impact the product makes) • Customers expect frequent releases • Flexibility in defects • But as you approach the mainstream… 14
  • 15.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Mainstream Flips Everything • Your maximum number of customers • Reducing churn here matters the most • Notice what matters to them: • They don’t need a lot more features, but they need the features to work • They need relatively frequent releases 15
  • 16.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Retain Customers as Product Approaches EOL • Most products appear to be “cash cows” here • They don’t care much about new features as long as the features work (max impact) • Goal: Retain customers and reduce churn 16
  • 17.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Retain customers by offering impact. Product meets their expectations. 17
  • 18.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman 3. Chasm/Mainstream Measures • As you increase the number of customers, they expect: • Time to value is short • “Typical” product paths work (solve their problems with maximum impact) • Suf fi cient features to solve most of their problems • Installation/registration ease 18
  • 19.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Logs for Insights/Measures • Leading indicators: • Abandon the registration (insuf fi cient ease) • Requests for more features (not solving the problems the customer has) • Requests for “how to” videos/ documentation • Each of these says something isn’t quite right 19
  • 20.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman 4. Indicators • First, remember this: • The more you instrument the code, the faster you can receive the measures • Validate your data with more than one user’s experience • Remember that the older the data, the less valuable it might be 20
  • 21.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman For all products: How easy is it to onboard the customer? 21
  • 22.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman What to Measure for Leading Indicators • Abandoned registration • Never-installation • Before the customer starts, they stopped • Gather qualitative data to understand why: • No survey.Talk with them. 22
  • 23.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Lagging Indicators: From Logs to Measures • Defect escapes: • Any measurable response time • More features: Gather request data from Customer Support/Success • How-to requests: Instrument requests for documentation or videos 23
  • 24.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Learn Which Features Have Most Impact for Whom • Consider these ideas: • Most popular features by persona • Least used features overall • Who checks for video/text documentation? 24
  • 25.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Product Usage Measures • Instrument the product to detect churn here: • Defect escapes in the typical paths • Intermittent problems • Substantial UI change • Fee/payment changes and (lagging) usage changes 25
  • 26.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Time Series to Af fi liate Big Changes with Dates • Example: • Product release on July 1 • Huge bump in how-to videos and Customer Success requests post- release • Time Series can help everyone see that as early as possible 26
  • 27.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman 5. Churn Reduction Strategies Depend on the Change • Different users: create more A/B tests • User experience: experiment fi rst • Pay structure:Analyze your competition and see where your customers have alternatives • Watch the market for challengers to your product • Verify your product’s promise matches the product’s reality 27
  • 28.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Big Ideas • Remember what matters to your ideal customers and when • Instrument the code & product and use a time series to see changes early • Pay attention to when users contact you • Always clarify your ideal customers and the promise you make them 28
  • 29.
    © 2023 JohannaRothman @johannarothman Let’s Stay in Touch • Pragmatic Manager: • www.jrothman.com/ pragmaticmanager • Please link with me on LinkedIn 29
  • 30.
    /in/taradwyer/ Q&A Johanna Rothman TaraDwyer Webinar Coordinator, Product Management Today /in/johannarothman/ jrothman.com Management Consultant, Rothman Consulting Group productmanagementtoday.com
  • 31.
    Revenera invites youto learn more about reducing churn and other ways of growing recurring revenue with product usage data! Check out the Revenue Optimization Guide for Software Suppliers available on Revenera’s blog, and then join Vic DeMarines, Revenera’s VP, Product Management for Software Monetization for a 25 minute webinar on leveraging entitlement usage data to hit your revenue target. Find the article here: Find the webinar here: