International CERTs/CSIRTs
Collaboration
Adli Wahid
Let’s Connect!
• LinkedIn: Adli Wahid
• Senior Internet Security Specialist @ APNIC (2014 - now)
oCERT/CSIRT Engagements
oAPNIC Community Honeynet Project
oFIRST.org board member (2014 – 2018)
APNIC – www.apnic.net
• Regional Internet Registry
• IP addresses & ASNs for the Asia Pacific
Region
• Based in Brisbane, Australia
• Capacity Building / Training (
• network infrastructure related including security
• https://academy.apnic.net
• Free!
• Self-paced courses
• Virtual Lab
• Webinars
Acronyms
• CERT = Computer Emergency Response Team
• CSIRT = Computer Security Incident Response Team
• CIRT = Computer Incident Response Team
• + some other variations
CERTs/CSIRTs - Different Responsibilities /
Constituencies
National
Enterprise /
Organisation
Sector –
based
Product
(PSIRTs)
“CERT/CSIRT
of the Last
Resort”
Other Interesting Facts about CERTs/CSIRTS
• Differences
oSize
oCapabilities
oExperience (new vs established)
oFunding ($$)
oMandate
• Similarities
oDeal with Threats & Threats
Actors
oNature of work
oMany things to do, Too Little
Time
oPowered by People
Community Collaboration is Not An Option
1. Need to train/upskill CERT/CSIRT staff
o Technical & Non-Tech work
2. Nature of Threats – some will experience or see it first
o Sharing threat related information for quick mitigation / early warning
3. Addressing the The Threat
o Getting information / Request for assistance
o Joint operation to disrupt activities of adversaries
4. Tools for supporting CERT work
o Scripts, Software etc
5. Share resources for a common goal
o Projects, Initiatives etc
Examples
APCERT 2007 Drill
• Drills are not CTFs (i.e CyberBattle) ☺
• Participation of National CERTs in the Asia
Pacific Region
• 12 teams from 13 economies
• In preparation for Beijing Olympics in 2008
• Scenarios & Drill Execution by AusCERT &
MyCERT
• Focus on communication & information
sharing
• APCERT runs the drill Annually until today
KrCERT/CC Annual CERT
Workshop
• Annual CERT Workshop supported by
KrCERT/CC (KISA) since early 2000*
• Focus on bringing new CERTs staff from the
region and beyond
• Opportunity to interact, meet and get to know
others in the community
• Uses content developed by TF-CSIRT
community (TRANSITs)
• Instructors are those who does CERT/CSIRT
work
https://tf-csirt.org/transits/
APISC 2015 (Seoul, KR)
CERT/CSIRT in the Pacific Project
• Interest in setting up a National CERT (starting with
CERT Tonga) in 2016
• Kick Start – Series of Workshops
• Focus
o Establishing & Operationalizing a CERT in the context of the
Pacific
o Collaboration + Networking (with other partners PACSON,
APCERT & FIRST)
o On the job training
o Sharing ideas, success stories etc
• Created momentum in other areas of cyber security
i.e. education & awareness, support for LEAs and
other stakeholders
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FIRST.org
Fellowship Program
• How do we share information or get
help from places that do not have
CERT/CSIRT yet
• “CERT of Last Resort” doesn’t
always work
• Initiative by FIRST community to have
teams from least developed
ecomomies
• Started in 2014
• Identify possible reps / contacts
• Invite to FIRST Annual Conference
• Support with mentorship to help
establish National CERT/CSIRT
• Established team then joins FIRST
(not always but hopefully)
• Funded by FIRST members and
generous donors
https://www.first.org/global/fellowship/
How to Get Help from Another Country?
• Official Version
Send Official Request
to Embassy
Embassy will Process
& Escalate to Ministry
in Home Country
Ministry will discuss
and contact the
appropriate Agency
Help?
How to Get Help From Another Country
• Community Edition
SMS
Puan XYZ, anda sudah dapat courier service document, sila
tandatangan atas electronik certification http://goo.gl/dGraHH
hxxps://www.dropbox.com/s/2spbfs86wsj2l8l/sijil.apk
** APK sends data to Command and Control in TW
1
2
3
Cyber Security Ecosystem
Network
Operators
Law
Enforcement
Policy
Makers /
Gov
Researchers
Vendors
CERTS/ISA
Cs/CSIRTs
Individual
Users
Organizations
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Summary
1. If you’re working alone, you are doing it wrong
• May need to change the mindset of Top Management
• External Engagement can be a dedicated role
2. Get yourself plugged in to the CERT/CSIRT Community
• May require additional resources (i.e. to attend meetings or extra time for
community work)
3. Be Proactive in your own community
• Don’t wait but initiate with others
• Someone needs to lead
4. Improve overall security together – build trust & make new
friends!
Terima Kasih
• Adli Wahid (LinkedIn)
• Email: adli@apnic.net
• Web: www.apnic.net

International CERTs/CSIRTs Collaboration

  • 1.
  • 2.
    Let’s Connect! • LinkedIn:Adli Wahid • Senior Internet Security Specialist @ APNIC (2014 - now) oCERT/CSIRT Engagements oAPNIC Community Honeynet Project oFIRST.org board member (2014 – 2018)
  • 3.
    APNIC – www.apnic.net •Regional Internet Registry • IP addresses & ASNs for the Asia Pacific Region • Based in Brisbane, Australia • Capacity Building / Training ( • network infrastructure related including security • https://academy.apnic.net • Free! • Self-paced courses • Virtual Lab • Webinars
  • 4.
    Acronyms • CERT =Computer Emergency Response Team • CSIRT = Computer Security Incident Response Team • CIRT = Computer Incident Response Team • + some other variations
  • 5.
    CERTs/CSIRTs - DifferentResponsibilities / Constituencies National Enterprise / Organisation Sector – based Product (PSIRTs) “CERT/CSIRT of the Last Resort”
  • 6.
    Other Interesting Factsabout CERTs/CSIRTS • Differences oSize oCapabilities oExperience (new vs established) oFunding ($$) oMandate • Similarities oDeal with Threats & Threats Actors oNature of work oMany things to do, Too Little Time oPowered by People
  • 7.
    Community Collaboration isNot An Option 1. Need to train/upskill CERT/CSIRT staff o Technical & Non-Tech work 2. Nature of Threats – some will experience or see it first o Sharing threat related information for quick mitigation / early warning 3. Addressing the The Threat o Getting information / Request for assistance o Joint operation to disrupt activities of adversaries 4. Tools for supporting CERT work o Scripts, Software etc 5. Share resources for a common goal o Projects, Initiatives etc
  • 8.
  • 9.
    APCERT 2007 Drill •Drills are not CTFs (i.e CyberBattle) ☺ • Participation of National CERTs in the Asia Pacific Region • 12 teams from 13 economies • In preparation for Beijing Olympics in 2008 • Scenarios & Drill Execution by AusCERT & MyCERT • Focus on communication & information sharing • APCERT runs the drill Annually until today
  • 10.
    KrCERT/CC Annual CERT Workshop •Annual CERT Workshop supported by KrCERT/CC (KISA) since early 2000* • Focus on bringing new CERTs staff from the region and beyond • Opportunity to interact, meet and get to know others in the community • Uses content developed by TF-CSIRT community (TRANSITs) • Instructors are those who does CERT/CSIRT work https://tf-csirt.org/transits/ APISC 2015 (Seoul, KR)
  • 11.
    CERT/CSIRT in thePacific Project • Interest in setting up a National CERT (starting with CERT Tonga) in 2016 • Kick Start – Series of Workshops • Focus o Establishing & Operationalizing a CERT in the context of the Pacific o Collaboration + Networking (with other partners PACSON, APCERT & FIRST) o On the job training o Sharing ideas, success stories etc • Created momentum in other areas of cyber security i.e. education & awareness, support for LEAs and other stakeholders 11
  • 12.
    FIRST.org Fellowship Program • Howdo we share information or get help from places that do not have CERT/CSIRT yet • “CERT of Last Resort” doesn’t always work • Initiative by FIRST community to have teams from least developed ecomomies • Started in 2014 • Identify possible reps / contacts • Invite to FIRST Annual Conference • Support with mentorship to help establish National CERT/CSIRT • Established team then joins FIRST (not always but hopefully) • Funded by FIRST members and generous donors https://www.first.org/global/fellowship/
  • 13.
    How to GetHelp from Another Country? • Official Version Send Official Request to Embassy Embassy will Process & Escalate to Ministry in Home Country Ministry will discuss and contact the appropriate Agency Help?
  • 14.
    How to GetHelp From Another Country • Community Edition SMS Puan XYZ, anda sudah dapat courier service document, sila tandatangan atas electronik certification http://goo.gl/dGraHH hxxps://www.dropbox.com/s/2spbfs86wsj2l8l/sijil.apk ** APK sends data to Command and Control in TW 1 2 3
  • 15.
    Cyber Security Ecosystem Network Operators Law Enforcement Policy Makers/ Gov Researchers Vendors CERTS/ISA Cs/CSIRTs Individual Users Organizations 15
  • 16.
    Summary 1. If you’reworking alone, you are doing it wrong • May need to change the mindset of Top Management • External Engagement can be a dedicated role 2. Get yourself plugged in to the CERT/CSIRT Community • May require additional resources (i.e. to attend meetings or extra time for community work) 3. Be Proactive in your own community • Don’t wait but initiate with others • Someone needs to lead 4. Improve overall security together – build trust & make new friends!
  • 17.
    Terima Kasih • AdliWahid (LinkedIn) • Email: adli@apnic.net • Web: www.apnic.net