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Inadequacy Of
Vocational Schools
IMECEPTION:MESLEK LISESI MEMLEKET MESELESI
27 Kasım 2014
-Mustafa Nuri Kavdır
(mustafanurikavdir@gmail.com)
-Ebru Kasırga
(ebru4858@gmail.com)
Group leader: Sena Aladağ
(sena.aladag7@gmail.com) -Hülya Yaman
(ymnhulya@gmail.com)
-Sümeyye Tırpan
(tirpans19@gmail.com)
Fishbone
http://imeception.blogspot.com.tr/
Definition of the problem
In this project we are focusing on one of the major problems in Turkish
education system which is inadequacy of vocational high schools in
Turkey.
-They dont train sufficient workers
-Nobody studies there with joy
-Not enough funding by goverment
-No vital change to fix this problem had been made yet
Fishbone Diagram
Matrix Diagram
System Society Family Skills
Sena 7 6 5 4
Ebru 6 5 7 4
Hülya 7 5 6 4
Sümeyye 6 4 7 5
Mustafa 7 6 5 4
TOTAL %30 %24 %27 %19
System Society Family Skills
0% 5% 10% 15% 20% 25% 30%
System
Society
Family
Skills
Cause of the problem
Survey Questions and Results
Would you support your child if he/she wanted to
enroll a vocational high school even though
he/she had made a very good score in the
university enterance exam which made her/him
able to go to any type of high school she/he
wanted to attend?
0%
20%
40%
60%
80%
Yes No
In you opinion, whether vocational high schools
are a choice or not?(or a must that students
prefer because they have no other choice)
0%
20%
40%
60%
80%
Yes (a choice) Not
Do you think that
vocational schools provide
proficient education to the
students?
0%
10%
20%
30%
40%
50%
60%
Yes No Partly
Do you think that the Ministry of
Education provides the necessary
support to the vocational high schools?
What do you feel about the
students of vocational high
schools? Positive or negative?
0%
20%
40%
60%
80%
100%
Yes No Partly
0%
10%
20%
30%
40%
50%
60%
Positive Negative Neutral
An interview with an ex-VH. Student
Hello! First of all, why
did you choose
your school? Were
you happy with it? If
not why?
Actually I didn’t choose it. I had to go because I
didn’t have any other choices. My exam result was
not good and I wasn’t happy of course. As you
know, the vocational high schools can not give a
good education. There is no guarantee to find a job
after we graduated. And I had some problems with
one of my teachers. He always used slang words
especially to the only girl in our class. That’s why I
changed my school.
Did you have
enough
information
before you went
to this school?
Yes but general things such as
those who study there are not
good students, their exam results
are not good so they only can go
to these schools etc.
Had your school got
enough fund from
Ministry to provide
you with good
equipment?
No, they send and we know this as our
school manager was always talking about
that. But he spent money to buy an air
conditioner to our teachers room. And we
couldn’t dare to ask.That attitude really
ground my gears and i have changed my
school.
Thanks Yusuf Kaşıkçı for that great interview.
Interview with the headmaster of Vocational Technical and
Industry Hıgh Schools in Batman. ‘’Necati TUNÇ’’
mebk12.meb.gov.tr
What are the reasons that trigger the students to think
about the Vocational High Schools as the last option while
they're making choices for high school education?
We asked him:
Mr.TUNÇ:We can divide the reasons into three cathegories.
1)FAMILIES:Families still don't know that their children can enter to universities
without scores being reduced .They don't take into account the desires and skills
of their children.They just want their children to have prestigious jobs such as
doctor, lawyer,engineer or etc.
2)MINISTRY OF EDUCATION:They made so many changes and legislations in order
to regulate the system but it has made the situation more chaotic.They wanted
to make these schools' situation equal to those in Europe but I think there are
mistakes in their regulations. Because they reduced the options of high schools
for students.
3)SCHOOLS:Schools don't have enough qualifications for getting so many
students at the same time.
blog.smartbear.com
IMECEPTION: With the transformation of general high schools into Anatolian High Schools
there occured a high rise in attendance to Vocational High Schools.Do you think that this rise
is compulsory or a matter of choice? And what will be the biggest contribution to our country
if the vocational training is developed and widespreaded?
Mr.TUNÇ:With new regulations there aren't any differences between
Anatolian high schools and Vocational High Schools while entering the
universities but in Vocational High Schools in addition to other lessons
vocational training is given.For a student who has a low grade
and cannot attend an Anatolian High Schools the only choices are
Vocational or Religious High Schools. Even though he/she doesn't want
to take vocational or religious training there is no other choice .I think this
is partially a compulsory situation. Our country needs too much well-
educated personel on the area of industry.This will contribute to this too
much.
www.clker.com
We offer German Education
System to fix that problem
The German concept is simple: After students complete their mandatory years of
schooling, usually around age 18, they apply to a private company for a two or
three year training contract. If accepted, the government supplements the
trainee’s on-the-job learning with more broad-based education in his or her field
of choice at a publicly funded vocational school. Usually, trainees spend three to
four days at work and one to two in the classroom. At the end, the theory goes,
they come out with both practical and technical skills to compete in a global
market, along with a good overall perspective on the nature of their profession
icongal.com
German
Education
System as a
Model
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-
sOu8fWjSENw/UADTFAd9MOI/AAAAAAAAAfU/Qtf1Sfzxhy4/s1600/school_chart.gif
A brief comparison between
Turkey and Germany
GermanEducationSystem
TurkishEducationSystem
-German students start learning a
profession instead of basic lessons
at an earlier age.
-People’s point of view is
remarkably different for
Vocational Education.
-German children tend to
improve themselves more on their
specific skills because of early
development.
icongal.com
What can we do ?
1. Contact our state school board member and
explain the German education system so that
they can teach it to their students and raise
awareness.
2. Contact the governor and tell them we are
concerned about applying German
education to Turkish schools.
www.ecokids.ca
References
 http://www.utahnsagainstcommoncore.com/german-style-education-in-utah/
 http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-07-19/german-vocational-training-
model-offers-alternative-path-to-youth
 https://www.itusozluk.com/goster.php/alman+e%F0itim+sistemi
 http://www.uludagsozluk.com/k/alman-e%C4%9Fitim-sistemi/
 http://www.mesleklisesimemleketmeselesi.com/NR/rdonlyres/DE8D070A-38AB-4E1C-
86B0-
1177457C957E/15849/DurumAnaliziMektup150512_GONDERILENFINALVERSION.pdf
 http://www.messegitim.com.tr/ti/577/0/MESLEKI-VE-TEKNIK-EGITIM-SISTEMININ-GENEL-
DEGERLENDIRMESI
 http://yzstrateji.com/dokumanlar/MESLEKIEGITIM-RAPOR.pdf
 «İmece Halkaları Eğitimi» by Hayal Köksal (2003)
Thank you all for listening 
And special Thanks to
Dr. Hayal Köksal

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Inadequacy of vocational schools imeception

  • 1. Inadequacy Of Vocational Schools IMECEPTION:MESLEK LISESI MEMLEKET MESELESI 27 Kasım 2014
  • 2. -Mustafa Nuri Kavdır (mustafanurikavdir@gmail.com) -Ebru Kasırga (ebru4858@gmail.com) Group leader: Sena Aladağ (sena.aladag7@gmail.com) -Hülya Yaman (ymnhulya@gmail.com) -Sümeyye Tırpan (tirpans19@gmail.com) Fishbone http://imeception.blogspot.com.tr/
  • 3. Definition of the problem In this project we are focusing on one of the major problems in Turkish education system which is inadequacy of vocational high schools in Turkey. -They dont train sufficient workers -Nobody studies there with joy -Not enough funding by goverment -No vital change to fix this problem had been made yet
  • 5. Matrix Diagram System Society Family Skills Sena 7 6 5 4 Ebru 6 5 7 4 Hülya 7 5 6 4 Sümeyye 6 4 7 5 Mustafa 7 6 5 4 TOTAL %30 %24 %27 %19
  • 6. System Society Family Skills 0% 5% 10% 15% 20% 25% 30% System Society Family Skills Cause of the problem
  • 7. Survey Questions and Results Would you support your child if he/she wanted to enroll a vocational high school even though he/she had made a very good score in the university enterance exam which made her/him able to go to any type of high school she/he wanted to attend? 0% 20% 40% 60% 80% Yes No In you opinion, whether vocational high schools are a choice or not?(or a must that students prefer because they have no other choice) 0% 20% 40% 60% 80% Yes (a choice) Not Do you think that vocational schools provide proficient education to the students? 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% Yes No Partly
  • 8. Do you think that the Ministry of Education provides the necessary support to the vocational high schools? What do you feel about the students of vocational high schools? Positive or negative? 0% 20% 40% 60% 80% 100% Yes No Partly 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% Positive Negative Neutral
  • 9. An interview with an ex-VH. Student Hello! First of all, why did you choose your school? Were you happy with it? If not why? Actually I didn’t choose it. I had to go because I didn’t have any other choices. My exam result was not good and I wasn’t happy of course. As you know, the vocational high schools can not give a good education. There is no guarantee to find a job after we graduated. And I had some problems with one of my teachers. He always used slang words especially to the only girl in our class. That’s why I changed my school.
  • 10. Did you have enough information before you went to this school? Yes but general things such as those who study there are not good students, their exam results are not good so they only can go to these schools etc. Had your school got enough fund from Ministry to provide you with good equipment? No, they send and we know this as our school manager was always talking about that. But he spent money to buy an air conditioner to our teachers room. And we couldn’t dare to ask.That attitude really ground my gears and i have changed my school. Thanks Yusuf Kaşıkçı for that great interview.
  • 11. Interview with the headmaster of Vocational Technical and Industry Hıgh Schools in Batman. ‘’Necati TUNÇ’’ mebk12.meb.gov.tr What are the reasons that trigger the students to think about the Vocational High Schools as the last option while they're making choices for high school education? We asked him:
  • 12. Mr.TUNÇ:We can divide the reasons into three cathegories. 1)FAMILIES:Families still don't know that their children can enter to universities without scores being reduced .They don't take into account the desires and skills of their children.They just want their children to have prestigious jobs such as doctor, lawyer,engineer or etc. 2)MINISTRY OF EDUCATION:They made so many changes and legislations in order to regulate the system but it has made the situation more chaotic.They wanted to make these schools' situation equal to those in Europe but I think there are mistakes in their regulations. Because they reduced the options of high schools for students. 3)SCHOOLS:Schools don't have enough qualifications for getting so many students at the same time. blog.smartbear.com
  • 13. IMECEPTION: With the transformation of general high schools into Anatolian High Schools there occured a high rise in attendance to Vocational High Schools.Do you think that this rise is compulsory or a matter of choice? And what will be the biggest contribution to our country if the vocational training is developed and widespreaded? Mr.TUNÇ:With new regulations there aren't any differences between Anatolian high schools and Vocational High Schools while entering the universities but in Vocational High Schools in addition to other lessons vocational training is given.For a student who has a low grade and cannot attend an Anatolian High Schools the only choices are Vocational or Religious High Schools. Even though he/she doesn't want to take vocational or religious training there is no other choice .I think this is partially a compulsory situation. Our country needs too much well- educated personel on the area of industry.This will contribute to this too much. www.clker.com
  • 14. We offer German Education System to fix that problem The German concept is simple: After students complete their mandatory years of schooling, usually around age 18, they apply to a private company for a two or three year training contract. If accepted, the government supplements the trainee’s on-the-job learning with more broad-based education in his or her field of choice at a publicly funded vocational school. Usually, trainees spend three to four days at work and one to two in the classroom. At the end, the theory goes, they come out with both practical and technical skills to compete in a global market, along with a good overall perspective on the nature of their profession icongal.com
  • 16. A brief comparison between Turkey and Germany GermanEducationSystem TurkishEducationSystem -German students start learning a profession instead of basic lessons at an earlier age. -People’s point of view is remarkably different for Vocational Education. -German children tend to improve themselves more on their specific skills because of early development. icongal.com
  • 17. What can we do ? 1. Contact our state school board member and explain the German education system so that they can teach it to their students and raise awareness. 2. Contact the governor and tell them we are concerned about applying German education to Turkish schools. www.ecokids.ca
  • 18. References  http://www.utahnsagainstcommoncore.com/german-style-education-in-utah/  http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-07-19/german-vocational-training- model-offers-alternative-path-to-youth  https://www.itusozluk.com/goster.php/alman+e%F0itim+sistemi  http://www.uludagsozluk.com/k/alman-e%C4%9Fitim-sistemi/  http://www.mesleklisesimemleketmeselesi.com/NR/rdonlyres/DE8D070A-38AB-4E1C- 86B0- 1177457C957E/15849/DurumAnaliziMektup150512_GONDERILENFINALVERSION.pdf  http://www.messegitim.com.tr/ti/577/0/MESLEKI-VE-TEKNIK-EGITIM-SISTEMININ-GENEL- DEGERLENDIRMESI  http://yzstrateji.com/dokumanlar/MESLEKIEGITIM-RAPOR.pdf  «İmece Halkaları Eğitimi» by Hayal Köksal (2003)
  • 19. Thank you all for listening 
  • 20. And special Thanks to Dr. Hayal Köksal