This document discusses emic and etic perspectives in systemic design. It proposes a framework for assessing how emic, or insider, a given systemic design project is. The framework includes principles like prolonged engagement, triangulation, and member checking. The document applies this framework to analyze two case studies - a public procurement project at the University of Toronto and a national youth leadership summit in Canada. It finds the framework useful but notes limitations like case selection bias. The document concludes by discussing contributions, limitations, and opportunities for refining and field testing the framework.