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Getting engaged in pre-
application discussions
Created March 2015
www.pas.gov.uk
What is PAS ?
• PAS is a DCLG grant-funded programme but
part of the Local Government Association
• Governed by a ‘sector led’ board
• 10 staff – commissioners, generalists, support
“PAS exists to provide support to local planning
authorities to provide efficient and effective
planning services, to drive improvement in those
services and to respond to and deliver changes
in the planning system”
This presentation
• The benefits of pre-application discussions
• Probity and pre-determination
• Options for informing, influencing and
working with developers and your
community in pre-application discussions
Benefits to the developer and
the council
For the Developer
• time saving
• reduced risk
• manages community
expectation and can
increase support
• reduces cost
• raise the value of the
scheme
For the Council
• knowledge about what is
happening
• a chance to influence and
shape
• demonstrate your
leadership
• attract inward investment
• reduces costs and could
save time
Effective pre-application – how
to recognise it…
“ It should lead to high quality and
appropriate development schemes being
granted planning permission more quickly
and with improved outcomes for the
community”
Cross sector agreement on how
to make this happen
Commitment no 8
“Provide an opportunity for Councillors to be
actively involved in pre-application
discussions”
A good pre-app offer involves:
• a discussion, aimed at solving problems
and improving developments
• advice when/if problems are unresolvable
• recognition of needs/constraints of
developers and the council
• engaging statutory consultees and other
stakeholders
• a proportionate response to the scale of a
development and the issues it raises
• The developer to explain what a proposal is
– not what rumour fears that it will be
• You to input your views, and those of the
community view, into a scheme at a
formative stage
• You to ask questions
• To jointly work on shaping the development
into something good
Member engagement in early
discussions allows
• your area is a good place to invest in
• you have a vision and are prepared to be
proactive to achieve it
• you can manage development opportunities
to make the most for your communities
• you act in the best interests of the whole
community
It gives you a chance to show
that….
What has been the hold up?
Under previous guidance on standards in
public life there was a clear (but artificial)
line drawn between council roles:
• community leaders and representatives
• decision makers on planning applications
Post Localism Act:
• Predisposition (inclination/opinion) is fine; must
have a willingness to listen to all material
considerations before deciding how to vote
• Predetermination (a ‘closed mind’) is not
• Getting involved in a pre-application discussion
does not, in itself, mean you are predetermined.
• You can discuss, without having a closed mind
Probity in planning guide
• Not a free–for-all
• Still a need for
propriety
• Must still demonstrate
fairness, openness
and impartiality at all
stages of the process
• Perception is as
important as reality
Establishing a protocol for your
council
• Much of the detailed work on pre-application
discussions will be done by officers
• Where and how you can/should get involved
can be set out in a pre-application protocol
• It will vary, depending on levels of activity,
certainty of the policy framework etc
Option 1: concept stage
The (almost) blank sheet of paper
• signposting an open door for significant
new inward investment proposals
• allows senior councillors to consider how a
proposal would fit vision for the area and
link to wider corporate objectives
• an opportunity to encourage real
community engagement at the earliest
design phases
How would that work?
• Have a clear stance on confidentiality
issues
• Be informed of the likely issues
• Keep a record of the conversations
• Saves pain and cost if the idea is a non
starter
• A chance to think about other stakeholders
who need to be engaged and when
Option 2: briefings
Introduction to a developing scheme
• Keep abreast of new proposals
• Understand objectives for the development
• Understand constraints or explanation behind
some design decisions
• Ask questions
• Ensure that developer knows first hand what
you/community want from such a proposal
How would that work?
• formal briefings in a meeting
• applicant or officers introduce proposal
• to councillors or mixed audience with
community reps (as appropriate)
• an opportunity to ask questions/ discuss
proposal in the spirit of improving the
quality of the scheme and benefits it will
provide for the community
• keep a record of the discussion
Option 3: interim reports
To give committee members early sight of a
proposal
• similar to the member briefing, but
focussed on the planning committee
• means that committee see a complex
proposal before they are expected to
make a decision on it
• can be a discussion in public to increase
transparency
How would that work?
• report from officers to the committee on a
prospective application
• appropriate for a small number of very
significant proposals
• before or after the main business of
committee
• a chance for members to ask the
developer questions
• NO DECISION - INFORMATION ONLY
Option 4: discussion forums
• Developer or the council can host a
discussion about a scheme
• Developer introduces their scheme in a
public forum
• Open discussion between developer,
councillors and community members.
• Can involve statutory and other consultees
How would that work?
• One off or regular meetings on current
pre-application proposals
• Often chaired by a councillor
• Invitation to attend or open forum
• Discussion becomes part of the public
consultation requirements
• A record of attendance, of concerns raised
and questions and answers given should
be kept.
Interests
• Detailed guidance is in the DCLG March
2013 guide “Openness and Transparency
in Personal Interests”
• Guiding principle: how a reasonable
member of the public, with full knowledge
of the facts, would view the councillors
involvement
• Pecuniary interests MUST be registered
• Seek guidance from your monitoring
officer
The pre-application values
• There are advantages to both the
developer and the council when pre-
application discussions are effective.
• Wouldn't it be great if developers in
your area always feel that they get such
good value from early discussion of
their proposals that they wouldn't
dream of proceeding without it?
In our Council we are working
towards…
Pre-app
brand
values
Trust Cost Time Reliability
Contact PAS
email pas@local.gov.uk
web www.pas.gov.uk
phone 020 7664 3000

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Councillor Briefing:

  • 1. Getting engaged in pre- application discussions Created March 2015 www.pas.gov.uk
  • 2. What is PAS ? • PAS is a DCLG grant-funded programme but part of the Local Government Association • Governed by a ‘sector led’ board • 10 staff – commissioners, generalists, support “PAS exists to provide support to local planning authorities to provide efficient and effective planning services, to drive improvement in those services and to respond to and deliver changes in the planning system”
  • 3. This presentation • The benefits of pre-application discussions • Probity and pre-determination • Options for informing, influencing and working with developers and your community in pre-application discussions
  • 4. Benefits to the developer and the council For the Developer • time saving • reduced risk • manages community expectation and can increase support • reduces cost • raise the value of the scheme For the Council • knowledge about what is happening • a chance to influence and shape • demonstrate your leadership • attract inward investment • reduces costs and could save time
  • 5. Effective pre-application – how to recognise it… “ It should lead to high quality and appropriate development schemes being granted planning permission more quickly and with improved outcomes for the community”
  • 6. Cross sector agreement on how to make this happen Commitment no 8 “Provide an opportunity for Councillors to be actively involved in pre-application discussions”
  • 7. A good pre-app offer involves: • a discussion, aimed at solving problems and improving developments • advice when/if problems are unresolvable • recognition of needs/constraints of developers and the council • engaging statutory consultees and other stakeholders • a proportionate response to the scale of a development and the issues it raises
  • 8. • The developer to explain what a proposal is – not what rumour fears that it will be • You to input your views, and those of the community view, into a scheme at a formative stage • You to ask questions • To jointly work on shaping the development into something good Member engagement in early discussions allows
  • 9. • your area is a good place to invest in • you have a vision and are prepared to be proactive to achieve it • you can manage development opportunities to make the most for your communities • you act in the best interests of the whole community It gives you a chance to show that….
  • 10. What has been the hold up? Under previous guidance on standards in public life there was a clear (but artificial) line drawn between council roles: • community leaders and representatives • decision makers on planning applications
  • 11. Post Localism Act: • Predisposition (inclination/opinion) is fine; must have a willingness to listen to all material considerations before deciding how to vote • Predetermination (a ‘closed mind’) is not • Getting involved in a pre-application discussion does not, in itself, mean you are predetermined. • You can discuss, without having a closed mind
  • 12. Probity in planning guide • Not a free–for-all • Still a need for propriety • Must still demonstrate fairness, openness and impartiality at all stages of the process • Perception is as important as reality
  • 13. Establishing a protocol for your council • Much of the detailed work on pre-application discussions will be done by officers • Where and how you can/should get involved can be set out in a pre-application protocol • It will vary, depending on levels of activity, certainty of the policy framework etc
  • 14. Option 1: concept stage The (almost) blank sheet of paper • signposting an open door for significant new inward investment proposals • allows senior councillors to consider how a proposal would fit vision for the area and link to wider corporate objectives • an opportunity to encourage real community engagement at the earliest design phases
  • 15. How would that work? • Have a clear stance on confidentiality issues • Be informed of the likely issues • Keep a record of the conversations • Saves pain and cost if the idea is a non starter • A chance to think about other stakeholders who need to be engaged and when
  • 16. Option 2: briefings Introduction to a developing scheme • Keep abreast of new proposals • Understand objectives for the development • Understand constraints or explanation behind some design decisions • Ask questions • Ensure that developer knows first hand what you/community want from such a proposal
  • 17. How would that work? • formal briefings in a meeting • applicant or officers introduce proposal • to councillors or mixed audience with community reps (as appropriate) • an opportunity to ask questions/ discuss proposal in the spirit of improving the quality of the scheme and benefits it will provide for the community • keep a record of the discussion
  • 18. Option 3: interim reports To give committee members early sight of a proposal • similar to the member briefing, but focussed on the planning committee • means that committee see a complex proposal before they are expected to make a decision on it • can be a discussion in public to increase transparency
  • 19. How would that work? • report from officers to the committee on a prospective application • appropriate for a small number of very significant proposals • before or after the main business of committee • a chance for members to ask the developer questions • NO DECISION - INFORMATION ONLY
  • 20. Option 4: discussion forums • Developer or the council can host a discussion about a scheme • Developer introduces their scheme in a public forum • Open discussion between developer, councillors and community members. • Can involve statutory and other consultees
  • 21. How would that work? • One off or regular meetings on current pre-application proposals • Often chaired by a councillor • Invitation to attend or open forum • Discussion becomes part of the public consultation requirements • A record of attendance, of concerns raised and questions and answers given should be kept.
  • 22. Interests • Detailed guidance is in the DCLG March 2013 guide “Openness and Transparency in Personal Interests” • Guiding principle: how a reasonable member of the public, with full knowledge of the facts, would view the councillors involvement • Pecuniary interests MUST be registered • Seek guidance from your monitoring officer
  • 23. The pre-application values • There are advantages to both the developer and the council when pre- application discussions are effective. • Wouldn't it be great if developers in your area always feel that they get such good value from early discussion of their proposals that they wouldn't dream of proceeding without it?
  • 24. In our Council we are working towards… Pre-app brand values Trust Cost Time Reliability
  • 25.
  • 26. Contact PAS email pas@local.gov.uk web www.pas.gov.uk phone 020 7664 3000

Editor's Notes

  1. This is a long presentation, but is intended for you to dip in and out of to use the most relevant aspects for your needs. There are other councillor presentations on our website that go into certain areas in more detail.
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  3. Planning legislation does not require developers to share their proposed developments with the local planning authority prior to submitting a planning application, although the National Planning Policy Framework encourages this approach. We know that people bringing forward developments really value the additional clarity that can come from an active, positive conversation with the Local Planning Authority (LPA) at the early stages of a development proposal being worked up – provided that such discussions are sufficiently comprehensive that they deal with the issues and reduce risk and time rather than adding extra processes to the planning system. Encouraging developers to share their proposals early on also has benefits for councils and therefore its is worthwhile for LPAs to think carefully about how they can both encourage developers to share and to make the most of this opportunity to influence future development in their area. This presentation is intended to help councillors to consider the pre-application discussion offer their council makes to developers and particularly the role of members in such discussions.
  4. The National Planning Policy Framework (NPPF) sets out an expectation that councils and developers should work together with statutory consultee bodies and the community as development proposals are worked up. The NPPF expects that such discussions should aim to: Smooth the path by examining all the issues , mitigating any adverse impacts and capturing the benefits Ensure that the community are given sufficient opportunity to input into the discussions Avoid wasted effort and cost by identifying “show-stoppers” early and avoiding duplication Integrating consideration of planning matters with other consents For a developer, this process can reduce the risk and thereby increase the likelihood of finding investment funding for a development. By knowing what the aspirations and concerns of the community are, the developer has a better chance to build what will be more acceptable to the community. When the cost of housing is high, saving money by reducing the cost of the development process contributes to the provision of more affordable homes.
  5. Effective pre-application discussions are not about always saying “yes” or about compromising the quality of the proposals that will be build in your area for the sake of a fast process. The outcome of effective pre-application discussions is that there is a better chance that proposed developments will fit your aspirations for the area and include benefits for your community and that these developments will be built more quickly. If you are not willing to come to the table, you have much less chance to persuade and influence.
  6. In 2014, DCLG encouraged the LGA to bring together a group of councils, developer representatives, statutory consultee bodies and community representatives to think about what was needed to improve the contribution that pre-application discussions make to delivering sustainable, good quality developments. The result of this cross sector work is a set of 10 commitments to working practices that will improve pre-application engagement across the country. There are a total of 10 commitments – the full list is downloadable from the PAS website Commitment number 8 is to establish opportunities for councillors to be actively involved in pre-application discussions.
  7. The way in which your council offers to manage pre-application discussions over development proposals will vary from council to council. But as an overview, these four points set out what developers will expect from a good offer of pre-application discussions. Clear honest advice A problem solving approach Understanding the developer’s needs as well as the council’s Getting the right people around the table for a comprehensive discussion Having a process that reflects the complexity of the issues (simple schemes/ simple processes)
  8. How you engage in pre-application discussions and what role you will be able to preform will differ, depending on your role in the council:
  9. For ward members, being at the table when proposals are being discussed will help you to be a more effective local leader by giving you more opportunity to be an effective conduit of information about what is being proposed in your area, and, by influencing proposals for the benefit of local communities, to encourage better developments to be delivered more quickly. Cabinet members, have the chance to learn of potential developments that can be shaped to offer benefits that contribute to the strategic development of the area, meeting local needs or providing infrastructure. This is a valuable avenue for promoting your area by demonstrating a willingness to lead on welcome investment opportunities. For committee members who will eventually make decisions on a planning application, there is a chance to gain greater insight into the development, ask questions and probe consequences and decisions earlier in the process.
  10. Although there may be a general understanding about the potential advantages of members being an integral part of pre-application discussions for large sites, some members ( and indeed some monitoring officers in local authorities) have felt reticent to become engaged. To a large extent this has been a legacy of previous codes of conduct for members which created a largely artificial differentiation between members’ roles as community leaders and decision makers. But it is also recognised that members may be wary that participation in pre-application discussion could be equated to being too close to developers ( especially if there is local opposition to a development). In both cases it is important that arrangements are in place to support members and help them to be most effective doing this important part of their role as community leaders.
  11. but the system trusts you generally to approach decision-making with an open mind. Much depends on what you actually say, and in what context. The Localism Act confirmed that Councillors should have an active role in the discussion of development proposals whether or not they are subsequently going to be involved in determining the application at planning committee. This is all part of the ‘Localism Agenda’ – that councillors have a proper role to play in planning for the area and getting involved. Objective of the changes: ‘Councillors should be free to campaign, to express views on issues and to vote on those matters, without fear of being unjustly accused of having a closed mind…because of it. We will be legislating …to make it clear that the normal activities of a councillor; campaigning, talking with constituents, expressing views on local matters and seeking to gain support for those views should not lead to an unjust accusation of having a closed mind on an issue that can lead to a legal challenge….The (Localism) Bill will give councillors the assurance that they can campaign, discuss and vote on issues with confidence.’ (Coalition proposal 2009) The critical issue is that the decision taker should retain an open mind, not withstanding that he or she may be predisposed to support or oppose a proposal.
  12. Planning is often an emotive matter for those involved and it is of upmost important that processes are not only carried out fairly but appear fair to an unbiased observer. This minimises the risk of challenge to the Council as Planning Authority but also to the individual Members from a conduct point of view.
  13. Because each council has differing opportunities and ambitions for growth, alongside a wide variety of experience and interest in development from its community , the arrangements for engagement in pre-application discussions need to reflect the local situation. For example, where a community has developed a neighbourhood plan for its area, the parish council or neighbourhood forum might well be regarded as a partner of the council for the purposes of early discussions on development proposals and will automatically be invited to join in discussions in a similar capacity to the ward councillor. Or In busy areas where there is a lot of development coming forward, it will be more usual to have a series of regular open briefing sessions in the diary so that members can be briefed on whatever schemes are coming forward at the moment. Whereas in quieter areas, arrangements will be set up for one off or unusually large developments. If the council has large land holdings and there may be a need to consider how members outside the cabinet will be engaged in discussions about the form of developments where the council is also a promoter of the scheme. Suggestion: You could invite people to think about the characteristics of their area which should be taken into account when thinking of members being involved in pre-application discussions in their area.
  14. When a developer comes to the council with a concept for significant proposed development, he or she is generally looking for a general steer – “Can I catch the interest of the council? Does this proposal align with their strategic objectives and is it worth my while spending more time and money developing this project further” The next point is “ If there are no absolute showstoppers, what are the reservations so that I can do more work on these in order to gain support?” At this stage most developers will want to have such a high level discussion on a informal confidential basis. It allows the council to input ideas that will benefit the community at the earliest stages before work goes too far and its also a chance to flag up issues and policies that will have an impact when a subsequent application is considered.
  15. Unless your local monitoring officer has advised to the contrary, the most councils will accept that commercial sensitivity is sufficient grounds for such discussions to remain confidential within such limits as you set in regard to the time limits and who in the council needs to be involved. Often the developer will most value a meeting with the leader or portfolio holder, but in some cases a meeting with the ward councillor will also be helpful as a way to identify who in the local community they should start talking with. Getting a briefing from the officers or having them with you at the meeting will help avoid any embarrassing gaps between what you would like to support and what planning policy is going to make difficult to support later. Make sure that there is a record of the meeting and follow it up with a note of what was agreed that can be shared with the developer to reduce the scope for each party to believe they heard what they wanted to hear rather than what was said. This will also be a helpful platform for your officers to carry on the more detailed discussions later.
  16. Further along the process of working up a development proposal, the needs change somewhat. As more information becomes available, as studies are completed and design issues resolved, discussions provide an opportunity for members to gain more understanding of the design. This is especially valuable for both ward member, close to their communities, and members of planning committee as questions can be asked and potential impact or need issues aired.
  17. This is most usually a small somewhat formal meeting of councillors and key community groups and individuals. The purpose of the meeting is to brief those around the table and allow for some working discussion about the proposal in a positive spirit of problem solving and shaping to achieve an improved development. The format will vary from council to council. Some councils prefer to have a briefing from their officers and some will give the prospective applicants an opportunity to present their scheme. If appropriate its good to have representatives from statutory consultees also present. The format seems to work best when the presentation is followed by an opportunity for the developer and or statutory consultees to be asked questions and make suggestions for improvement . As previously, it’s a given that anything offered or agreed at these meetings should be recorded and the record shared with those present.
  18. This option is more about briefing and presentation rather than a working discussion. However an interim presentation to the planning committee within the formal environment of the committee will allow for briefing on issues and for questions to be asked and explanations given. The advantage of this format is that members of the public have an opportunity to hear the presentation and discussion. In some councils they can also make short submissions or ask questions. It is important that its made clear that the committee are not being asked reach a conclusion or determine support or opposition to the proposal. Whilst its equally possible to have such committee briefings after the application is submitted, if issues are ironed out through the pre-application phase, it should not be necessary. The application process will be more streamlined and council’s performance improved.
  19. The advantage of this format is that members of the public have an opportunity to hear the presentation and discussion. In some councils they can also make short submissions or ask questions. It is important that its made clear that the committee are not being asked reach a conclusion or determine support or opposition to the proposal. Whilst its equally possible to have such committee briefings after the application is submitted, if issues are ironed out through the pre-application phase, it should not be necessary. The application process will be more streamlined and council’s performance improved.
  20. Discussion forums are public meetings called to allow for public discussion of planning proposals. They differ from option 2 in that these are less working meetings so much as an opportunity for developers to present their proposals and for members of the community to comment, ask questions or lobby for the inclusion of benefits or mitigation of impacts. As such they are closer to consultation than to engagement. They nonetheless are valuable as a means for developers to gain a broad understanding of how the community view their proposal and they have the opportunity to take issues away and seek solutions prior to the submission of a planning application.
  21. If councils have a busy workload of larger proposals, these developer forums are often scheduled on a regular or semi regular basis but can equally be a one off event. However in either case it is helpful if the council’s protocol provides for such meetings to take place. The presence of officers to answer questions regarding council’s planning policies and to keep a record of discussion will ensure that the meeting builds better understanding of the proposal.
  22. Even though the Localism Act has allowed for a relaxation of guidance on participation and the scope to express views on proposals, there is also a need for councillors to take account of the code of conduct in relation to interests. The Localism Act introduced a new criminal offence of failing to disclose or register members’ pecuniary interests and requirement for authorities to adopt a code of conduct. The Council’s Code of Conduct should establish what interests need to be disclosed and registered by a councillor. A disclosable pecuniary interest requires the withdrawal of the councillor from the committee when that pecuniary interest relates to an item under discussion by the committee. A precautionary approach would also indicate that if a member has a disclosable pecuniary interest in a proposal, involvement in pre-application discussions should equally be considered carefully. ALWAYS CHECK WITH YOUR MONITORING OFFICER
  23. To recap, The National Planning Policy Framework encourages councils to actively engage with prospective applicants to discuss their proposal. There are advantages to councils, communities and developers to having these discussions. One of the 10 Commitments agreed by the cross sector working group to make the pre-application phase more effective for all parties was that elected members of the council should have the opportunity to be involved directly in the discussions. Developers consider that pre-application discussions are most worthwhile when there is an opportunity to involve the members. Having clearly understood arrangements for members to undertake this role is a sign of a worthwhile, well managed planning service.
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