HOW TO GROW BY TEARING DOWN THE VENDOR-CUSTOMER WALL
A master class on aligning the voice of your customer with the voice of your company
In this two-part master class, "B2B marketing Jedi" (per Forbes.com) and customer discovery expert Bob London will deliver actionable tips for how to
Uncover your customers' Elevator Rant - what they're really saying when vendors aren't around; and
Craft an authentic, customer-first messaging strategy that will increase your marketing and sales traction.
Bob has conducted over 2,300 conversations with his clients' customers and used the resulting insights to develop their go-to-market messaging - as well as build a compelling Strategic Narrative that creates excitement and buy-in from employees, customers and investors alike.
Session I: Uncovering Your Customer's Elevator Rant
Bob's disruptive customer discovery questions that yield candid responses
How to frame conversations, ask questions and follow up
Tips on "listening between the lines" to maximize insights
Session II: (to follow) Crafting a Customer-First Messaging Strategy
Positioning your company in the marketplace
Developing a crisp, winning value proposition
Creating sales messages that start with the customer
These sessions are designed to give Founders, business owners and senior B2B executives - CEOs, CMOs, Chief Revenue Officers and Chief Customer Officers - immediate and actionable takeaways.
Marel Q1 2024 Investor Presentation from May 8, 2024
Bob London Master Class - Aligning voice of your customer with voice of your company, SESSION I
1. HOW TO GROW
BY TEARING
DOWN THE
VENDOR-
CUSTOMER WALL
A 2-part master class on
aligning the voice of your
customer with the voice
of your company.
2. ALIGNING THE VOICE OF YOUR CUSTOMER
AND THE VOICE OF YOUR COMPANY
Session I (today)
Uncovering Your Customer's Elevator Rant
Disruptive customer discovery questions that yield candid responses
How to frame conversations, ask questions and follow up
Tips on "listening between the lines" to maximize insights
Session II (8/24)
Crafting a Customer-First Messaging Strategy
Positioning your company in the marketplace
Developing a crisp, winning value proposition
Creating sales messages that start with the customer
3. The Elevator Rant
What is it?
• It’s what decision-makers talk
about on the elevator when
vendors aren’t around.
• In their words, not yours.
Why do I need to
uncover it?
• To make marketing and selling
easier.
• And fuel profitable growth.
How do I uncover
it?
• Ask better questions.
• About them, not your
product.
• Then mute yourself.
4. New system for remote, preventative SFR
maintenance (HVAC, water, mold)
Tim, greetings and please excuse the unsolicited
message. I'll be brief.
I'm with an emerging tech company that's developing
the "check engine light for the home." The system uses
patent-pending, multi-modal sensors and AI to help
SFR companies reduce maintenance costs by 10 - 25%
by providing early alerts to potential HVAC, appliance,
water and mold issues.
The system can also improve the overall tenant
experience and help differentiate your properties.
I'd love your reactions. Do you have 20 minutes to
chat? Or point me in the right direction?
Best,
Bob London
Strategic Advisor to
Stealth Tech Venture in the
SFR Maintenance Space
Two biggest
prospects in our
target audience
Publicly traded
companies
$36B Market
Cap
EVP of
Operations
SVP of
Operations
5. THE
SECRET:
RADICALLY
AUTHENTIC
CUSTOMER
DISCOVERY
What do you think is the biggest priority or challenge
your board is discussing?
What absolutely has to be OFF your whiteboard in
the next 90 days?
What’s the one thing you and your team need to get
better at this year?
If I gave you a magic wand, what problem would you
make disappear first?
I'm sure your job description is at least a page long.
But what's the one thing your company is counting on
you to get done?
6. Source: 9 Secret Elements of Highly Effective Sales Conversations from Gong, based on analysis of 1M recorded sales calls
WE’RE NOT LISTENING. BECAUSE WE’RE
PRETTY BUSY TALKING.
25 - 35% 65 - 75%
7. VENDOR-SPEAK.
WISHFUL THINKING.
HOPES & DREAMS.
THROAT CLEARING.
TALKING AT OR PAST
THE AUDIENCE.
CAN’T THEY JUST
TELL ME WHAT
THEY’RE GREAT
AT? AND HOW
THE PRODUCT
WORKS?
“AS A NEXT STEP, CAN
WE SET UP A DEMO?”
“THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
WE’LL LET YOU KNOW IF WE
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.”
9. (INTERNAL)
LET’S DEBRIEF. I THOUGHT THE
PITCH WENT PRETTY WELL.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
(TO PROSPECT)
“HEY, APPRECIATE THE TIME TODAY.
WHAT DID YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT
RIGHT AFTER THE CALL ENDED?”
“WOW, NO ONE’S
EVER ASKED ME
THAT BEFORE. AS A
MATTER OF FACT,
WE DID HAVE SOME
CONCERNS. WANT
TO HEAR THEM?”
10. WHAT ABOUT BOB?
Marketer Turned
Chief Listening Officer
• Positioning
• Value Prop
• Brand Messaging
Strategy
• Go-to-Market
Strategy
• Customer Discovery
B2B Tech Clients
• 25X honored on
Inc. 5000 Fastest
Growing Companies
list
• Multiple EY
Entrepreneur of the
Year & Deloitte Fast
500 Winners
Advisor/Coach
• ParkMyCloud
(acquired by IBM)
• DCALive
• IQexchange
• Investor Pitch
Coach
Supporter of
Entrepreneurial
Ecosystem
• Mindshare
• U of Maryland
Dingman Center for
Entrepreneurship
• CONNECTpreneur
11. TWO THOUSAND, THREE
HUNDRED & SEVENTY-TWO*
ONE-ON-ONE DISCOVERY CONVERSATIONS
WITH B2B DECISION-MAKERS
*AND COUNTING
12. EXTRAORDINARY COMPANIES DRIVE
Innovation
Insights
Value-Add
Support
Product
Are you consistently delivering the basic
value the customer expects?
Are you honest, clear, responsive
& easy to do business with?
Do you go above & beyond?
Do you give customers insights that
help them do their jobs better &
make their lives easier?
Does the customer trust you to bring
them new ways to solve challenges?
DIFFERENTIATED VALUE
COMMODITY
UNSPOKEN/
UNEXPECTED
OBVIOUS /
EXPLICIT
13. ELEVATOR RANTS LIVE ABOVE THE LINE
Innovation
Insights
Value-Add
Support
Product
Are you consistently delivering the basic
value the customer expects?
Are you honest, clear, responsive
& easy to do business with?
Do you go above & beyond?
Do you give customers insights that
help them do their jobs better &
make their lives easier?
Does the customer trust you to bring
them new ways to solve challenges?
UNSPOKEN/
UNEXPECTED
OBVIOUS /
EXPLICIT
THE CUSTOMER VALUE MAP
14. chieflisteningofficers.com
Start with their
company’s
challenges &
priorities
Not the
product
Ask bold,
disruptive open-
ended questions
Not easy ones
Ask questions you
don't know the
answer to
No clichés
Go where they
take you
Don’t solve or
sell
Make it a dialogue
Not a survey
RADICALLY AUTHENTIC CUSTOMER DISCOVERY
1 2 3 4 5
15. chieflisteningofficers.com
1. What do you think is the biggest priority or challenge your board is discussing?
2. What absolutely has to be off your whiteboard in the next 90 days?
3. What’s the one thing you and your team need to get better at this year?
4. What's the biggest challenge your customers need you to help solve?
5. If I gave you a magic wand, what problem would you make disappear first?
6. I'm sure your job description is at least a page long, but what's the one thing
your company is counting on you to get done?
7. What’s the hardest part of your job?
8. If a competitor contacted you today, would you ignore them or want to
learn more?
9. What are we great at - better than anyone else?
11. If you were having coffee with our CEO, what would you say?
12. What would make you a customer for life?
A. THEIR
COMPANY
B. THEM
C. YOUR
COMPANY
& PRODUCT
10. On a scale of 1 – 5, how easy or difficult do you think it would be to
change providers? 5 = I can’t imagine the pain. 1 – no sweat.
16. chieflisteningofficers.com
START WITH A QUIET
MIND
CHECK YOUR EGO,
BIASES &
DEFENSIVENESS
BREATH & SMILE
KEEP IT ALL ABOUT
THEM
START BROAD
GO WHERE THEY WANT
TO GO
BE AUTHENTICALLY
CURIOUS
EMBRACE THEIR RANTS
BE AGILE CONVERSE DON’T SOLVE NO SELLING
RADICALLY AUTHENTIC DISCOVERY TECHNIQUES
17. TIME OUT:
How do I
know this is
working?
“Hmmm….”
“That’s a great
question.”
”No one’s ever
asked me that
before.”
“Hang on, let
me close my
door.”
“No problem, I
can go a few
minutes over.”
19. 85%
OPEN
RATE 65%
CONVERSION
RATE
Subject: A quick favor if you can.
Dear (first name):
I hope this note finds you well. Knowing how busy you are, I’m always sensitive
about asking for a bit more of your time. With that said, we’re embarking on a
concerted effort to raise the bar on how well we understand our customers’
challenges and priorities. Not just day-to-day, but also the business priorities for
the company overall. Ultimately, this helps us help you.
Would you be available for a 30- to 45-minute, one-on-one phone conversation
in the next week or two? As I said, it’s different from our regular meetings, as
we’re basically looking for your candid perspective on a few topics—mostly
around your company’s high-level priorities and challenges in the marketplace.
If so, please reply with a couple dates/times when you’re free, and I’ll send you
a calendar invitation. Alternatively, feel free to use this scheduling link to find a
time that works for you.
Your involvement would be greatly appreciated! If you have any questions,
please don’t hesitate to reach me at (phone) or (email).
Best regards,
- You
EMPATHY PRO TIPS
30 - 45 MINUTES IS
THE NEW HOUR
NO NEED FOR VIDEO SCHEDULING TOOLS
HELP
20. WHY AREN’T COMPANIES
BUYING OUR COMPREHENSIVE
CLOUD MANAGEMENT
PLATFORM?
THERE’S ONE
FEATURE…KIND
OF LIKE A NEST
THERMOSTAT
FOR OUR
PUBLIC CLOUD
IS THERE SOMETHING
WE’RE GREAT AT?
CLOUD MANAGEMENT
PLATFORM WITH ZERO SALES
IN 12 MONTHS.
ACQUIRED BY IBM.
21. WE SOUND LIKE
EVERYONE ELSE. HOW
CAN WE DIFFERENTIATE?
YOUR SERVICE IS FINE.
WHAT I’M WORRIED
ABOUT IS WHAT’S ON
THE HORIZON. I’M
FLYING BLIND.
WHAT WOULD MAKE
YOU A CUSTOMER
FOR LIFE?
MANAGED IT SERVICE
COMPANY WITH SLOW
OR NO GROWTH
INC. 5000 HONOREE
22. chieflisteningofficers.com
“If you had a
free (no
obligations)
hour with a
world-renowned
expert, who
would it be, and
what’s the first
thing you’d want
to know?”
AMA!