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STOP BRAINSTORMING, GET OUT
OF THE BUILDING & ASK YOUR
CUSTOMERS 5 QUESTIONS
Bob London @chief_listener
IF WE ALL PEEK OUTSIDE OUR SILOS…
THE
CUSTOMER
WE’LL SEE THE SAME THING.
@chief_listener
THE CUSTOMER: THE ULTIMATE SILO-SPLITTER,
ARGUMENT-ENDER & UNIFIER
STRATEGIC
MARKETING GUY
1999 - 2010
CORPORATE
MARKETING GUY
1990 - 1999
LISTENING GUY
2011 - Present
15x
Companies Talk Past Their
Customers
“Themes brands
consider important
have minimal influence
on buyer perceptions.”
The Disconnect Between
Marketers & Buyers
“Tech marketers invest
in areas that IT buyers
don’t consider important
in the decision process.”
“Just 50% felt they
understood customers
well & 35% understood
their prospects.”
CMOs Admit They Don’t
Understand Their Target
6
“So what? Can you solve my
problem better than anyone else?”
“We can solve all
your problems!”
DISCOVERING THE CUSTOMER’S TRUE PERSPECTIVE*
REQUIRES A NEW APPROACH.
* ELEVATOR RANT
“I wish we had more ____”
“We can’t keep doing it
this way ____”
“I’m so tired of bumping
up against ____”
INTERNAL
ELEVATOR RANTS: Real, unfiltered issues customers
talk about on the elevator, when you’re not around.
EXTERNAL
“Why can’t vendors just ____”
“Stop trying to be ____”
“Their software would be great if
they just ____”
“I hate writing that check every
month for ____”
The Big Pivot: From $0 in sales to 100
enterprise customers
Our software delivers visibility &
control over your public, private &
hybrid cloud environments…reduce
costs & better governance.
We don’t even know all our cloud
requirements yet. So there’s no
compelling reason for us to buy now.
One feature is like a programmable
light switch that turns off your
cloud when you’re not using it. We
call it “parking.” This reduces your
monthly costs by 20 – 60%.
Now that’s cool. Can I just buy
that & not the whole platform?
ELEVATOR RANTS
Um…no…
You’re trying to solve too many
problems. Is there one it solves
well? OUTSIGHT
OK, well that’s just dumb.
Minimal
marketing
No dedicated
sales resource
@chief_listener
RAISED $1.7M
PIVOTED TO
@chief_listener
A series of H2H conversations
solely to learn the other
person’s perspective…what’s
important to them…
 One on one phone
calls
 20 – 30 min. each
 10 – 15 customers
& non-customers
without bringing it back to
your point of view.
The Secret: Agenda-less Listening
DON’T FALL IN LOVE WITH YOUR SOLUTION.
FALL IN LOVE WITH THEIR PROBLEM & DESIRED OUTCOME.
1“What are your company’s top
2 priorities for the next 12 – 24
months—at the board level?”
@chief_listener
2“What’s getting in the
way…what do you and your
team need to get better at?”
3“Does our industry have a
reputation—good or bad?”
4
“What are we great at? What do
we do better than anyone else?”
THOUGHT-PROVOKING QUESTIONS YOUR
COMPETITORS AREN’T ASKING
5
“What would
make you a
customer for life?”
@chief_listener
(The killer question)
“Hmmm…good question.
“No one’s ever
asked me that!”
Relax. It’s a conversation not an
interview. You want their perspective.
It’s about them (not you or the
software!). Let the dialogue go
where they want to go.
Drop ego, biases & defensiveness.
Breath, smile.
Be agile and iterative.
LISTENING TIPS &
GROUND RULES
NO SELLING—EVER!
What insights will you get?
• Product/service
innovation &
delivery
• Value prop
• Brand identity
• Positioning/Differe
ntiation
• Sales & marketing
messaging
• Buyer journey
• CX/UX
• Personas
• Content ideas
• Real customer
language (vs.
marketing-speak)
• New use cases
• Goodwill
• Case studies
• Identify problems
Customer Re-Discovery E-Book
www.chieflisteningofficers.com/free
Listen more. Market better.

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Customers: The Ultimate Silo Splitters

  • 1. STOP BRAINSTORMING, GET OUT OF THE BUILDING & ASK YOUR CUSTOMERS 5 QUESTIONS Bob London @chief_listener IF WE ALL PEEK OUTSIDE OUR SILOS… THE CUSTOMER WE’LL SEE THE SAME THING.
  • 2. @chief_listener THE CUSTOMER: THE ULTIMATE SILO-SPLITTER, ARGUMENT-ENDER & UNIFIER
  • 3. STRATEGIC MARKETING GUY 1999 - 2010 CORPORATE MARKETING GUY 1990 - 1999
  • 4. LISTENING GUY 2011 - Present 15x
  • 5. Companies Talk Past Their Customers “Themes brands consider important have minimal influence on buyer perceptions.” The Disconnect Between Marketers & Buyers “Tech marketers invest in areas that IT buyers don’t consider important in the decision process.” “Just 50% felt they understood customers well & 35% understood their prospects.” CMOs Admit They Don’t Understand Their Target
  • 6. 6 “So what? Can you solve my problem better than anyone else?” “We can solve all your problems!”
  • 7. DISCOVERING THE CUSTOMER’S TRUE PERSPECTIVE* REQUIRES A NEW APPROACH. * ELEVATOR RANT
  • 8. “I wish we had more ____” “We can’t keep doing it this way ____” “I’m so tired of bumping up against ____” INTERNAL ELEVATOR RANTS: Real, unfiltered issues customers talk about on the elevator, when you’re not around. EXTERNAL “Why can’t vendors just ____” “Stop trying to be ____” “Their software would be great if they just ____” “I hate writing that check every month for ____”
  • 9. The Big Pivot: From $0 in sales to 100 enterprise customers Our software delivers visibility & control over your public, private & hybrid cloud environments…reduce costs & better governance. We don’t even know all our cloud requirements yet. So there’s no compelling reason for us to buy now. One feature is like a programmable light switch that turns off your cloud when you’re not using it. We call it “parking.” This reduces your monthly costs by 20 – 60%. Now that’s cool. Can I just buy that & not the whole platform? ELEVATOR RANTS Um…no… You’re trying to solve too many problems. Is there one it solves well? OUTSIGHT OK, well that’s just dumb.
  • 11. @chief_listener A series of H2H conversations solely to learn the other person’s perspective…what’s important to them…  One on one phone calls  20 – 30 min. each  10 – 15 customers & non-customers without bringing it back to your point of view. The Secret: Agenda-less Listening DON’T FALL IN LOVE WITH YOUR SOLUTION. FALL IN LOVE WITH THEIR PROBLEM & DESIRED OUTCOME.
  • 12. 1“What are your company’s top 2 priorities for the next 12 – 24 months—at the board level?” @chief_listener 2“What’s getting in the way…what do you and your team need to get better at?” 3“Does our industry have a reputation—good or bad?” 4 “What are we great at? What do we do better than anyone else?” THOUGHT-PROVOKING QUESTIONS YOUR COMPETITORS AREN’T ASKING
  • 13. 5 “What would make you a customer for life?” @chief_listener (The killer question) “Hmmm…good question. “No one’s ever asked me that!”
  • 14. Relax. It’s a conversation not an interview. You want their perspective. It’s about them (not you or the software!). Let the dialogue go where they want to go. Drop ego, biases & defensiveness. Breath, smile. Be agile and iterative. LISTENING TIPS & GROUND RULES NO SELLING—EVER!
  • 15. What insights will you get? • Product/service innovation & delivery • Value prop • Brand identity • Positioning/Differe ntiation • Sales & marketing messaging • Buyer journey • CX/UX • Personas • Content ideas • Real customer language (vs. marketing-speak) • New use cases • Goodwill • Case studies • Identify problems

Editor's Notes

  1. You aren’t alone.
  2. Forrester: independently validated the market feedback as part of a large trend among skeptical software buyers—don’t sell me a swiss army knife when all I need is a hacksaw or an icepick.
  3. Tie your product or service to their goals & budget priorities. What value do you add to their business? ------ If you started your job yesterday, what would be your first observations? What would be your first priorities? Everyone has a thought bubble when they meet with a sales person. This is the elephant in the room that your positioning needs to address. You don’t need names, just rants. Like, “The partner sells me and then hands off to a junior person to do the work.” What is it? Positive? Skeptical? Exasperated? Excited? You don’t need names, just rants. Like, “The partner sells me and then hands off to a junior person to do the work.” Drill down for specific complaints. There’s always at least 1 juicy industry complaint you can position against. ----------- Buyers don’t want all things to all people. They want “a job done right.” Your sweet spot is the foundation of your positioning. If you lose a sweet spot customer or deal, always find out why.
  4. Wait, we all want customers for life but never ask what it means to them?
  5. FAQS / PUSHBACK Isn’t this annoying to customers? Will they actually participate? What’s in it for them? Shouldn’t I do it face to face? Will they be candid? What if they complain? How long will this take? What if I’m too busy to do it myself. So I’m just supposed to do whatever our customers say? Authenticity and positioning are critical