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Daniel Freeman Memorial Hospital Run by the Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondelet  I argued in the Catholic Hospital which employed me against the election of Catholic Kennedy
In the US  516, or  35,7 % , of the 1442 entries in the 1919 edition of the  Source Book for Bible Students  dealt with Catholicism;  in the 1962  Seventh-day Adventist Bible Student's Source Book  (Don F. Neuffeld and Julia Neuffer, eds.; Washington, DC: RHPA, 1962)  399 out of a total of 1815 entries, or only  22% , focus on Catholicism. ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Adventist evangelists claim the papacy is the only power that meets all “nine” characteristics of “little horn” of Dan. 7. They freely broadcast this allegation in large public forums, via satellite, television and radio, through correspondence bible schools, and in personal evangelistic efforts. Millions of dollars are invested in such efforts. REVELATION SEMINAR STUDIES Lesson 19 THE MARK OF THE BEAST
Catholic Protestant  In  the Past: Cruelty on both Sides
Burial alive Decapitation Drowning Burnings Source of the Images Catholic  Cruelties
Protestant Cruelties Between 1659 and 1660, the Quakers Mary Dyer, Marmaduke Stephenson and William Robinson were hanged in Puritan Massachusetts  The Puritans repealed the Act of Toleration in Maryland in 1654, outlawed the Catholics. . . condemning ten of them to death, four of whom were executed. . .  Michael Servetus in Geneva under Calvin  Burning Anabaptist Felix Manz in Limmat River, 1527 Drowning   Crushing Margaret Clitherow  turned Catholic was crushed under a heavy oak door on March 25, 1586  Hanging Jesuit Edmund Campion tortured, burned with 125 Jesuits under Elisabeth I  Execution
Protestant  Catholic Sexual Abuse on both Sides “ The problem of sexual abuse has no denominational boundaries,”
Rev. John Geoghan  Rev. Joseph Birmingham Rev. Paul R. Shanley  Rev. Ronald H. Paquin  Sexual Abusers In July 2008 Pope Benedict during a visit to Australia apologized for sexual abuse by clergy, condemning it as "evil" and saying abusers should be brought to justice Popular Miami Based Priest, Father Cutie Caught in Sexy Scandal
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“ Abhor that arrant whore of Rome and all her blasphemies;  Drink not of her cursed cup;  Obey not her decrees .“  “John Rogers Verses” from the New England Primer   To colonial New Englanders, the Pope was the "Antichrist," and the "Papists" who followed him were in league with the devil. http://massmoments.org/moment.cfm?mid=155
“ Immigration into U S is Vatican Plan for World Conquest” Samuel Morse  Cincinnati: Published by Truman & Smith. New York: Leavitt, Lord & Co., 1836. Lyman Beecher Presbyterian  minister, Pope is the Anti-Christ who plans to take over the US and set up his capital in the American West Morse telegraph
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Chapter VI: “Father Dufresne called me out, saying he wished to speak with me. I feared what was his intention; but I dared not disobey. In a private apartment, he treated me in a brutal manner; and from two other priests, I afterward  received similar usage that evening . Father Dufresne afterward appeared again; and I was compelled to remain in company with him until morning.” Chap IX:  Babies killed and buried in cellar. Chapter XIX:  Murders in the Convent 1836
Illustration from William Hogan's Popery!  Mother Abbess Strangling the Infant The death Pit in "Decisive Confirmation of the Awful Disclosures of Maria Monk" by S.B. Smith, a former priest, in 1836.
 
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Anti-catholic Newspaper  The Menace:  (Aurora, Mo.)  1911-1925 1 ½ million subscribers
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The U.S. Justice Department identified 144 producers of anti-Catholic literature Michael Schwartz, Anti-Catholicism in America (1984), p.118 Kennedy’s campaign produced a gigantic outpouring of anti-Catholic propaganda
 
 
 
“ Creeping upon us from the darkness of the  Dark Ages, a hideous monster…The name of  this monster is Popery; and it  has fixed its rapacious and bloodthirsty eyes on this land , determined to make it its helpless prey…”  Uriah Smith, The United states in the Light of Prophecy, p. 107 Pope is the Anti-Christ who plans to take over the US and set up his capital in the American West Uriah Smith, Daniel and Revelation
The observance of  Sabbath  was understood as God's  "seal"  on the "remnant”  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],"Babylon"  as consisting of a  Protestant  and a  Catholic  component, and with the attribution of a major role to the  United States  in the endtime drama
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During his visit to America in April 2008, Pope Benedict XVI  esteemed the model of American church-state relations as a potential schema to follow in Europe .  http://www.libertymagazine.org/article/articleview/802/1/116/ Wednesday, April 9, 2008 Pope Benedict's appreciation for America's Religious Liberty  http://benedictinamerica.blogspot.com/2008/04/pope-benedicts-appreciation-for.html  Pope Benedict XVI has, in recent months, expressed his admiration for the “American model” of religious liberty and church-state liberty. http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2009/01/93
Church Leaders Say "We're Sorry"  German and Austrian churches apologize for Holocaust actions “… Seventh-day Adventist church leaders in Germany and Austria have released a declaration saying they  "deeply regret" any participation in or support of Nazi activities during the war.  The church bodies "honestly confess" a failure  "in following our Lord" by not protecting Jews, and others, from that era's genocide, widely known as the Holocaust.
"Marvelous in her shrewdness and cunning is the Roman  Church. . . And let it be remembered,  it is the boast of Rome that she never changes . The principles of Gregory VII and Innocent III are still the principles of the Roman Catholic Church. And has she but the power, she would put them in practice with as much vigor now as in past centuries. . . . Rome is aiming to reestablish her power, to recover her lost supremacy"  (Great Controversy, 507–8).  “ Rome never Changes”  G.W. Morse,  Review and Herald  (Nov.2, 1886), 679 If Rome seemed to be different from what it had earlier been, it was simply a matter of expediency.  Uriah Smith, “ A Sly Word for Americans, “ RH ( April 23, 1895), 266 “ The music has changed. The road on which mankind is invited to proceed is smoother and more pleasing. But the destination of Catholic roads has not changed. They all lead to the same well-known destination – Rome” B.B. Beach ,( observer at Vatican II) “Change in the Church of Rome,” RH (April.21, 1966), 4.
“ Protestantism… Spiritualism… Roman power… Under the influence of this threefold union,  our country  will follow in the steps of Rome… GC, 1884 ed., 405
General Conference Bulletin 8 -Ninth Business Meeting,  57th General Conference Session, July 4, 2000,3:00pm, Toronto, Canada B. B. BEACH: “ One of the happy traditions of General Conference sessions in recent decades has been to have  honored guests  and observers from other churches in our midst. One of them is: Monsignor John A. Radano  is a senior member of the Roman Catholic delegations and is head of the Western Section of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity [PCPCU], and principal liaison person between the  Vatican and other ecclesiastical communities in the West.   “ Bert B. Beach's encounter with the Roman Pontiff came as a  member  of the Christian World Communions, and following a special  luncheon at the Vatican."  Review  Nov. 8, 2001
Protestantism Adventist Chart,1863 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],The 1911 edition of the GC  introduced a change:  “ Therefore it [Babylon] cannot refer to the Roman Church  alone.” GC , 1911 ed., 383
Adult Sabbath School Lesson  for April–June 2002.  Lesson 10 "The Dragon Versus the Remnant Part 2,  Thursday  June 6 Why do we say that those who keep Sunday  do not have the mark of the beast now ? Why is it important that we make this point clear?  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Proclaim the Gospel and seek Conversions Adventist literature contained much that warns non-Catholics against Catholics, “ but very little that is intended primarily to convert Catholics themselves.”  Furthermore, courtesy was needed and “abuse and derision have no place in Seventh-day Adventist literature”  Alonzo L. Baker, “The Editor’s Council,”  Review and Herald (Sept. 18, 1930), 25 Consider all the Facts, not just those that fit Admit the Positive “ Adventists usually did not look for positive things in the Catholic past, but were focused on elements that would further strengthen their viewpoint” Reinder  Bruinsma,  Seventh-day Adventist Attitudes Toward Roman Catholicism , Andrews Univ. Press, p. 297 Don’t Fidget Facts ,[object Object],[object Object],Don’t be Suspicious of every Action by Catholics “… it is important to guard against imputing sinister motives to the [Catholic] President every time he takes a step… To develop an attitude of constant suspicion is inimical to one’s spiritual health, and is at the same time, grossly unfair ….” K.H. Wood, commenting on the Catholic “The President-elect,”  RH  (Dec.8, 1960) 3. Don’t forget there are God’s Children in the Catholic Church “… within the fold of this great Babylon that many of the people of God are to be found”  R.M. Kilmore, “Babylon,”  RH  (Sept.17, 185), 595
“ Adventists never believed that “our little church comprehends all the Christians in the world”.  George I. Butler, “Fall of Babylon,” RH,  extra issue (Nov. 22, 1887) 9.

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Adventism and Catholicism. Changing Attitudes ?

  • 2. Daniel Freeman Memorial Hospital Run by the Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondelet I argued in the Catholic Hospital which employed me against the election of Catholic Kennedy
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  • 4. Adventist evangelists claim the papacy is the only power that meets all “nine” characteristics of “little horn” of Dan. 7. They freely broadcast this allegation in large public forums, via satellite, television and radio, through correspondence bible schools, and in personal evangelistic efforts. Millions of dollars are invested in such efforts. REVELATION SEMINAR STUDIES Lesson 19 THE MARK OF THE BEAST
  • 5. Catholic Protestant In the Past: Cruelty on both Sides
  • 6. Burial alive Decapitation Drowning Burnings Source of the Images Catholic Cruelties
  • 7. Protestant Cruelties Between 1659 and 1660, the Quakers Mary Dyer, Marmaduke Stephenson and William Robinson were hanged in Puritan Massachusetts The Puritans repealed the Act of Toleration in Maryland in 1654, outlawed the Catholics. . . condemning ten of them to death, four of whom were executed. . . Michael Servetus in Geneva under Calvin Burning Anabaptist Felix Manz in Limmat River, 1527 Drowning Crushing Margaret Clitherow turned Catholic was crushed under a heavy oak door on March 25, 1586 Hanging Jesuit Edmund Campion tortured, burned with 125 Jesuits under Elisabeth I Execution
  • 8. Protestant Catholic Sexual Abuse on both Sides “ The problem of sexual abuse has no denominational boundaries,”
  • 9. Rev. John Geoghan Rev. Joseph Birmingham Rev. Paul R. Shanley Rev. Ronald H. Paquin Sexual Abusers In July 2008 Pope Benedict during a visit to Australia apologized for sexual abuse by clergy, condemning it as "evil" and saying abusers should be brought to justice Popular Miami Based Priest, Father Cutie Caught in Sexy Scandal
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  • 13. “ Abhor that arrant whore of Rome and all her blasphemies; Drink not of her cursed cup; Obey not her decrees .“ “John Rogers Verses” from the New England Primer To colonial New Englanders, the Pope was the "Antichrist," and the "Papists" who followed him were in league with the devil. http://massmoments.org/moment.cfm?mid=155
  • 14. “ Immigration into U S is Vatican Plan for World Conquest” Samuel Morse Cincinnati: Published by Truman & Smith. New York: Leavitt, Lord & Co., 1836. Lyman Beecher Presbyterian minister, Pope is the Anti-Christ who plans to take over the US and set up his capital in the American West Morse telegraph
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  • 18. Chapter VI: “Father Dufresne called me out, saying he wished to speak with me. I feared what was his intention; but I dared not disobey. In a private apartment, he treated me in a brutal manner; and from two other priests, I afterward received similar usage that evening . Father Dufresne afterward appeared again; and I was compelled to remain in company with him until morning.” Chap IX: Babies killed and buried in cellar. Chapter XIX: Murders in the Convent 1836
  • 19. Illustration from William Hogan's Popery! Mother Abbess Strangling the Infant The death Pit in "Decisive Confirmation of the Awful Disclosures of Maria Monk" by S.B. Smith, a former priest, in 1836.
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  • 22. Anti-catholic Newspaper The Menace: (Aurora, Mo.) 1911-1925 1 ½ million subscribers
  • 24. The U.S. Justice Department identified 144 producers of anti-Catholic literature Michael Schwartz, Anti-Catholicism in America (1984), p.118 Kennedy’s campaign produced a gigantic outpouring of anti-Catholic propaganda
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  • 28. “ Creeping upon us from the darkness of the Dark Ages, a hideous monster…The name of this monster is Popery; and it has fixed its rapacious and bloodthirsty eyes on this land , determined to make it its helpless prey…” Uriah Smith, The United states in the Light of Prophecy, p. 107 Pope is the Anti-Christ who plans to take over the US and set up his capital in the American West Uriah Smith, Daniel and Revelation
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  • 31. During his visit to America in April 2008, Pope Benedict XVI esteemed the model of American church-state relations as a potential schema to follow in Europe . http://www.libertymagazine.org/article/articleview/802/1/116/ Wednesday, April 9, 2008 Pope Benedict's appreciation for America's Religious Liberty http://benedictinamerica.blogspot.com/2008/04/pope-benedicts-appreciation-for.html Pope Benedict XVI has, in recent months, expressed his admiration for the “American model” of religious liberty and church-state liberty. http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2009/01/93
  • 32. Church Leaders Say "We're Sorry" German and Austrian churches apologize for Holocaust actions “… Seventh-day Adventist church leaders in Germany and Austria have released a declaration saying they "deeply regret" any participation in or support of Nazi activities during the war. The church bodies "honestly confess" a failure "in following our Lord" by not protecting Jews, and others, from that era's genocide, widely known as the Holocaust.
  • 33. "Marvelous in her shrewdness and cunning is the Roman Church. . . And let it be remembered, it is the boast of Rome that she never changes . The principles of Gregory VII and Innocent III are still the principles of the Roman Catholic Church. And has she but the power, she would put them in practice with as much vigor now as in past centuries. . . . Rome is aiming to reestablish her power, to recover her lost supremacy" (Great Controversy, 507–8). “ Rome never Changes” G.W. Morse, Review and Herald (Nov.2, 1886), 679 If Rome seemed to be different from what it had earlier been, it was simply a matter of expediency. Uriah Smith, “ A Sly Word for Americans, “ RH ( April 23, 1895), 266 “ The music has changed. The road on which mankind is invited to proceed is smoother and more pleasing. But the destination of Catholic roads has not changed. They all lead to the same well-known destination – Rome” B.B. Beach ,( observer at Vatican II) “Change in the Church of Rome,” RH (April.21, 1966), 4.
  • 34. “ Protestantism… Spiritualism… Roman power… Under the influence of this threefold union, our country will follow in the steps of Rome… GC, 1884 ed., 405
  • 35. General Conference Bulletin 8 -Ninth Business Meeting, 57th General Conference Session, July 4, 2000,3:00pm, Toronto, Canada B. B. BEACH: “ One of the happy traditions of General Conference sessions in recent decades has been to have honored guests and observers from other churches in our midst. One of them is: Monsignor John A. Radano is a senior member of the Roman Catholic delegations and is head of the Western Section of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity [PCPCU], and principal liaison person between the Vatican and other ecclesiastical communities in the West.  “ Bert B. Beach's encounter with the Roman Pontiff came as a  member  of the Christian World Communions, and following a special  luncheon at the Vatican." Review Nov. 8, 2001
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  • 39. “ Adventists never believed that “our little church comprehends all the Christians in the world”. George I. Butler, “Fall of Babylon,” RH, extra issue (Nov. 22, 1887) 9.