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80,000 Hours
How to do The Most Good in Your Career
                                Will Crouch
                                Faculty of Philosophy
                                University of Oxford
                                will.crouch@80000hours.org


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Why Think about Career Choice?
       80,000 Hours might sound like a long time.

   But it’s finite. And there are some big problems out
    there.
         18 million a year die of easily preventable diseases; 1.4
          billion people live on less than $1.25/day.
         50 billion land animals are killed every year.
         Mistakes we make now (like climate change) could
          easily affect 10 trillion future people .


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Why Think about Career Choice?
   Really, 80,000 hours is no time at all.

   So we’ve got to prioritise. That means thinking
    hard and thinking rationally about how best to use
    those hours.




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Why Think about Career Choice?
     It would be nice if there was quality advice out
    there on this issue.
        If you want to go out for a meal, there are thousands of
         restaurant reviewers.
        If you want to give to charity, there are several charity
         evaluators.


   Choosing a career is a far bigger issue than either of
    these. But, there aren’t any career evaluators. Rather,
    all you typically get is this slogan:

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Why Think about Career Choice?




             Make a Difference




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Making the most difference

   This talk will discuss what making a difference
    means.

   And it’ll discuss how you can make the most
    difference in your life.

   Thinking about these issues led me to pledge to
    give 50% of my income, change my research focus,
    and set up 80,000 Hours. Hopefully it’ll encourage
    you to take action, too.


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Categorising Career Paths




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Crucial Considerations

1.   Replaceability

3.   Making things happen

5.   Flexibility

7.   Having evidence-based ethical aims




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#1: Replaceability

   Making a difference requires doing something that
    wouldn’t have happened anyway.




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#1: Replaceability
   Suppose I became a developing world doctor.

   If so, then I would save lives on a regular basis:
               




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#1: Replaceability
   BUT:

   If I don’t become that doctor, someone else would
    do the same work instead of me:




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#1: Replaceability

   In contrast, as an influencer, professional
    philanthropist, or researcher, you are often making
    a difference that wouldn’t have happened anyway.




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Case Study: Viktor Zhdanov
   In the 20th century, smallpox
    killed over 300 million people.

   That’s more than all wars, political
    famines and genocides combined.

   Were it not for this man, it would
    not have been eradicated when it
    was.


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#2: Making Things Happen

Ethically,I shouldn’t care that it’s me saving lives; I
should just care that lives get saved.

Often  I can pay or influence people to do more good
than I personally could have done myself.

(If
   you can convince one other person to do what you
would have done, then you’ve done your life’s work!)




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Influencing
   By convincing others on college campuses, I could
    persuade several people to become developing
    world doctors:




              




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Professional Philanthropy
   By taking a lucrative career and donating the
    proceeds, I could do the same.




              




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Case Study: Norman Borlaug

   Norman Borlaug, in
    developing disease resistant
    wheat, directly saved 250mn
    people.

   Even taking into account
    replaceability, his impact is
    likely in the tens of millions.
    Even though he wasn’t on the
    front line.



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#3: Flexibility

    You shouldn’t be certain that the causes you think
     are most important now are the ones you think will
     be most important in the future
    You might change your mind
    You might gain new evidence
    The opportunities might change


    So, other things being equal, you should pursue
     careers that are flexible with respect to causes




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#3: Flexibility
   The earn-and-donate strategy is the clearest
    example of this.




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#4 Going with the evidence
       Some causes are thousands of times more effective
        with their resources than others.

       E.g. even within developing world health:
         $1mn spent treating Kaposi’s Sarcoma provides the
          benefit of 33 years of healthy life.
         $1mn spent distributing insecticide-treated bednets
          provides the benefit of 40 000 years of healthy life.


       So picking the right one is a big deal.


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Case Study: Bill Gates

   Donated over $30 billion.

   But first commissioned
    substantial research into
    intervention cost-effectiveness

   Ignoring the money he’s
    influenced, he’s saved
    upwards of 25 million lives.

   If he’d used that money in his
    home country, he’d have saved
    1/1000th that number.
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What does this mean for you?




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Potential Paths: #1 Pro Phil

 Finance

 Management  Consultancy
 Actuarial Work

 Engineering

 Medicine and Surgery




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Potential Paths: #2 Influence

 Politics

 CivilService
 Lecturing

 Teaching

 Campaigning

 Grant-making

 Resource Allocation




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Potential Paths: #3 Research

 Development   economics
 Cost-effectiveness research

 Certain areas within ethics

 Certain areas within agriculture and healthcare

 Certain areas within technology




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Potential Paths

Within  these categories, I’d recommend going
back to some clichés (with some modifications):
   Keep your options open
   Go with what you could become good at
   Go with what you could become passionate about
   Go with a career where you won’t burn out or lose
    your ethical ideals




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80,000 Hours

Supports   its members through a vibrant community
of like-minded people.
Provides careful research into the most effective
ways to make a difference.
Advises and encourages members to help you be
successful in your chosen career.
Hosts events for members to help you be a better
effective altruist.



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Current Members...




      Tech         Law and Politics          Cost-Effectiveness
Entrepreneurship                                 Research




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If you are convinced to
any extent by the
arguments given above,
please come and speak
with me afterwards.



  will.crouch@80000hours.org
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80,000 Hours

  • 1. 80,000 Hours How to do The Most Good in Your Career Will Crouch Faculty of Philosophy University of Oxford will.crouch@80000hours.org www.eightythousand.org 1
  • 2. Why Think about Career Choice?  80,000 Hours might sound like a long time.  But it’s finite. And there are some big problems out there.  18 million a year die of easily preventable diseases; 1.4 billion people live on less than $1.25/day.  50 billion land animals are killed every year.  Mistakes we make now (like climate change) could easily affect 10 trillion future people . 2 www.eightythousand.org 2
  • 3. Why Think about Career Choice?  Really, 80,000 hours is no time at all.  So we’ve got to prioritise. That means thinking hard and thinking rationally about how best to use those hours. 3 www.eightythousand.org 3
  • 4. Why Think about Career Choice?  It would be nice if there was quality advice out there on this issue.  If you want to go out for a meal, there are thousands of restaurant reviewers.  If you want to give to charity, there are several charity evaluators.  Choosing a career is a far bigger issue than either of these. But, there aren’t any career evaluators. Rather, all you typically get is this slogan: 4 www.eightythousand.org 4
  • 5. Why Think about Career Choice? Make a Difference 5 www.eightythousand.org 5
  • 6. Making the most difference  This talk will discuss what making a difference means.  And it’ll discuss how you can make the most difference in your life.  Thinking about these issues led me to pledge to give 50% of my income, change my research focus, and set up 80,000 Hours. Hopefully it’ll encourage you to take action, too. www.eightythousand.org 6 6
  • 7. Categorising Career Paths 7 www.eightythousand.org 7
  • 8. Crucial Considerations 1. Replaceability 3. Making things happen 5. Flexibility 7. Having evidence-based ethical aims www.eightythousand.org 8 8
  • 9. #1: Replaceability  Making a difference requires doing something that wouldn’t have happened anyway. www.eightythousand.org 9 9
  • 10. #1: Replaceability  Suppose I became a developing world doctor.  If so, then I would save lives on a regular basis:  www.eightythousand.org 10 10
  • 11. #1: Replaceability  BUT:  If I don’t become that doctor, someone else would do the same work instead of me: www.eightythousand.org 11 11
  • 12. #1: Replaceability  In contrast, as an influencer, professional philanthropist, or researcher, you are often making a difference that wouldn’t have happened anyway. www.eightythousand.org 12 12
  • 13. Case Study: Viktor Zhdanov  In the 20th century, smallpox killed over 300 million people.  That’s more than all wars, political famines and genocides combined.  Were it not for this man, it would not have been eradicated when it was. www.eightythousand.org 13 13
  • 14. #2: Making Things Happen Ethically,I shouldn’t care that it’s me saving lives; I should just care that lives get saved. Often I can pay or influence people to do more good than I personally could have done myself. (If you can convince one other person to do what you would have done, then you’ve done your life’s work!) www.eightythousand.org 14 14
  • 15. Influencing  By convincing others on college campuses, I could persuade several people to become developing world doctors:  www.eightythousand.org 15 15
  • 16. Professional Philanthropy  By taking a lucrative career and donating the proceeds, I could do the same.  www.eightythousand.org 16 16
  • 17. Case Study: Norman Borlaug  Norman Borlaug, in developing disease resistant wheat, directly saved 250mn people.  Even taking into account replaceability, his impact is likely in the tens of millions. Even though he wasn’t on the front line. 17 www.eightythousand.org 17
  • 18. #3: Flexibility  You shouldn’t be certain that the causes you think are most important now are the ones you think will be most important in the future You might change your mind You might gain new evidence The opportunities might change  So, other things being equal, you should pursue careers that are flexible with respect to causes www.eightythousand.org 18 18
  • 19. #3: Flexibility  The earn-and-donate strategy is the clearest example of this. www.eightythousand.org 19 19
  • 20. #4 Going with the evidence  Some causes are thousands of times more effective with their resources than others.  E.g. even within developing world health:  $1mn spent treating Kaposi’s Sarcoma provides the benefit of 33 years of healthy life.  $1mn spent distributing insecticide-treated bednets provides the benefit of 40 000 years of healthy life.  So picking the right one is a big deal. www.eightythousand.org 20 20
  • 21. Case Study: Bill Gates  Donated over $30 billion.  But first commissioned substantial research into intervention cost-effectiveness  Ignoring the money he’s influenced, he’s saved upwards of 25 million lives.  If he’d used that money in his home country, he’d have saved 1/1000th that number. 21 www.eightythousand.org 21
  • 22. What does this mean for you? 22 www.eightythousand.org 22
  • 23. Potential Paths: #1 Pro Phil  Finance  Management Consultancy  Actuarial Work  Engineering  Medicine and Surgery www.eightythousand.org 23 23
  • 24. Potential Paths: #2 Influence  Politics  CivilService  Lecturing  Teaching  Campaigning  Grant-making  Resource Allocation www.eightythousand.org 24 24
  • 25. Potential Paths: #3 Research  Development economics  Cost-effectiveness research  Certain areas within ethics  Certain areas within agriculture and healthcare  Certain areas within technology www.eightythousand.org 25 25
  • 26. Potential Paths Within these categories, I’d recommend going back to some clichés (with some modifications):  Keep your options open  Go with what you could become good at  Go with what you could become passionate about  Go with a career where you won’t burn out or lose your ethical ideals www.eightythousand.org 26 26
  • 28. 80,000 Hours Supports its members through a vibrant community of like-minded people. Provides careful research into the most effective ways to make a difference. Advises and encourages members to help you be successful in your chosen career. Hosts events for members to help you be a better effective altruist. www.eightythousand.org 28 28
  • 29. Current Members... Tech Law and Politics Cost-Effectiveness Entrepreneurship Research www.eightythousand.org 29
  • 30. If you are convinced to any extent by the arguments given above, please come and speak with me afterwards. will.crouch@80000hours.org www.eightythousand.org 30 30

Editor's Notes

  1. If you think that, by doing some research and thinking hard, you can improve how you use those hours by 1%, then it’s worth spending 800 hours on.
  2. If you think that, by doing some research and thinking hard, you can improve how you use those hours by 1%, then it’s worth spending 800 hours on.
  3. If you think that, by doing some research and thinking hard, you can improve how you use those hours by 1%, then it’s worth spending 800 hours on.
  4. If you think that, by doing some research and thinking hard, you can improve how you use those hours by 1%, then it’s worth spending 800 hours on.
  5. Emphasise that I’m going to use the idea of professional philanthropist as my major example. That’s because it’s easiest to get you thinking in the right way – but it’s not the only way.
  6. Emphasise that I’m going to use the idea of professional philanthropist as my major example. That’s because it’s easiest to get you thinking in the right way – but it’s not the only way.
  7. 1) We research the question, “ how can I use my time and money in order to most benefit people? ” 2) We publicise our findings and advocate that people put them into practice. 3) We ’ re building a community of people with shared aims. Our mission is to help our members and provide a platform for us to help and connect with each other, in order that are as successful as we can possibly be, such that it all trickles into the causes that we ’ re all supporting, maximising our impact as a group. Together we will provide: Help with applications Job opportunities Internships Investment opportunitiesAdviceMentorshipsOffice space and funding for start-upsSupport from a group of like-minded people
  8. This is one of the most important decisions of your life, and we’re here to help. fF you’re convinced at all…