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Delegation to Limestone District School Board
 April 8, 2015
•Meredith Chivers – Winston PS
•Emma Jackson – Sydenham PS
•Peter Josza – Module Vanier, KCVI
•Jordan Morelli – Rideau PS
•Dorianne Sager – Sydenham PS
•Laura Tulchinsky – Module Vanier, KCVI
Key Points
 Less than 25% of parents plan to send their
children to a new school at any of the 3 proposed
sites
 This means a loss of at least $1 million/yr in PPG
 90% of those surveyed will send their children to
KCVI if it is renovated in current location
Key Points
 Walkability, sense of community and downtown
location are highly valued
 The downtown community has 5 feeder elementary
schools with healthy enrolments and serves 3 of the
region’s largest employers
 None of the Board’s three options reflect these values.
It’s time for Plan B
Methods
 Online survey (#1) targeting current/future KCVI families
 Publicized by parent networks, social media
 KCVI, Module Vanier
 Central, Sydenham, Rideau, Winston, Polson Park PS
 Survey Monkey with one response per computer
 5 MCQ + opportunity for narrative comment
 Sites: Cookes, QECVI, KCVI
 Open February 28 - March 8, 2015
 Subsequent survey (#2) launched March 14, 2015 to explore reaction to
Calvin Park High School option
April 9, 2015 4
LDSB French Review data
 Similar online methodology
 Grouping of similar themes
 KCVI/Module Vanier had high response rate
April 9, 2015 5
Results
 Survey 1 - 235 families
 @ Canadian average of 1.9 students/family
  up to 446 students
 Survey 2 - 198 families
April 9, 2015 6
Powered by
Q1: Do you have one or more children currently attending or planning to
attend KCVI?
Answered: 235 Skipped: 0
Powered by
Q5: If a KCVI is renovated in its existing location (Frontenac St) please tell us where your student (s)
will attend high school. In this case QECVI would become an education centre and community hub
including an alternative high school program, some focus programs and Board offices
Answered: 230 Skipped: 5
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Comparing Sites  to stay with Limestone or to go
Site Limestone school Non-Limestone school
Cookes 56.88% 43.12%
Calvin Park site 50% 50%
QECVI site 53.52% 46.5%
New school at KCVI
QE Alternative Education Centre
92.57% 7.43%
KCVI renovated
QE Alternative Education Centre
96.08% 3.92%
What does this mean financially?
 Just based on the 200+ respondents to our
surveys, a new high school built on any of
the 3 proposed sites will lose AT LEAST
$1,000,000/year in per pupil grant.
We tell our children actions have consequences.
Is this how we want to teach them that lesson?
Ask Peterborough….
 Downtown school PCVS closed
 Students moved to suburban,
newly renovated TASS 5km away
 Of 756 PCVS students, only 409
moved to TASS
Peterborough 2 years later
 Public school enrolment down 11.33%
 Catholic board only down 4.87%
 TASS enrolment declining at higher rate
(9%) than other public high schools (0-
8%) and St Peters (4%)
Themes
1. Importance of downtown location adjacent to University
2. Walkability/community schools
3. Preserve/renovate KCVI
4. Will move away from LDSB if KCVI closed
5. Negative to Cookes/QE/Calvin Park sites
6. Calvin Park survey additional themes
1. Bad idea/waste of money/not responsible
2. Makes no sense to have 2 schools so close
3. Congestion in Calvin Park neighbourhood
4. Negative effect of megaschool
April 9, 2015 13
Themes
 LDSB-commissioned French review data correlates well
with our results:
 Importance of school location downtown
 Walkability, value of community schools
 Strong desire to preserve KCVI in current location
adjacent to University
April 9, 2015 14
Consider this residential street….
 These houses are full of
families with children who
walk to school
 The neighbourhood is
revitalized and full of
young families
 The same goes for all
downtown
neighbourhoods
April 9, 2015 15
Consider this residential street….
April 9, 2015 16
April 9, 2015 17
It’s time for Plan B

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Ldsb april 8 delegation

  • 1. Powered by Delegation to Limestone District School Board  April 8, 2015 •Meredith Chivers – Winston PS •Emma Jackson – Sydenham PS •Peter Josza – Module Vanier, KCVI •Jordan Morelli – Rideau PS •Dorianne Sager – Sydenham PS •Laura Tulchinsky – Module Vanier, KCVI
  • 2. Key Points  Less than 25% of parents plan to send their children to a new school at any of the 3 proposed sites  This means a loss of at least $1 million/yr in PPG  90% of those surveyed will send their children to KCVI if it is renovated in current location
  • 3. Key Points  Walkability, sense of community and downtown location are highly valued  The downtown community has 5 feeder elementary schools with healthy enrolments and serves 3 of the region’s largest employers  None of the Board’s three options reflect these values. It’s time for Plan B
  • 4. Methods  Online survey (#1) targeting current/future KCVI families  Publicized by parent networks, social media  KCVI, Module Vanier  Central, Sydenham, Rideau, Winston, Polson Park PS  Survey Monkey with one response per computer  5 MCQ + opportunity for narrative comment  Sites: Cookes, QECVI, KCVI  Open February 28 - March 8, 2015  Subsequent survey (#2) launched March 14, 2015 to explore reaction to Calvin Park High School option April 9, 2015 4
  • 5. LDSB French Review data  Similar online methodology  Grouping of similar themes  KCVI/Module Vanier had high response rate April 9, 2015 5
  • 6. Results  Survey 1 - 235 families  @ Canadian average of 1.9 students/family   up to 446 students  Survey 2 - 198 families April 9, 2015 6
  • 7. Powered by Q1: Do you have one or more children currently attending or planning to attend KCVI? Answered: 235 Skipped: 0
  • 8. Powered by Q5: If a KCVI is renovated in its existing location (Frontenac St) please tell us where your student (s) will attend high school. In this case QECVI would become an education centre and community hub including an alternative high school program, some focus programs and Board offices Answered: 230 Skipped: 5
  • 9. Powered by Comparing Sites  to stay with Limestone or to go Site Limestone school Non-Limestone school Cookes 56.88% 43.12% Calvin Park site 50% 50% QECVI site 53.52% 46.5% New school at KCVI QE Alternative Education Centre 92.57% 7.43% KCVI renovated QE Alternative Education Centre 96.08% 3.92%
  • 10. What does this mean financially?  Just based on the 200+ respondents to our surveys, a new high school built on any of the 3 proposed sites will lose AT LEAST $1,000,000/year in per pupil grant.
  • 11. We tell our children actions have consequences. Is this how we want to teach them that lesson? Ask Peterborough….  Downtown school PCVS closed  Students moved to suburban, newly renovated TASS 5km away  Of 756 PCVS students, only 409 moved to TASS
  • 12. Peterborough 2 years later  Public school enrolment down 11.33%  Catholic board only down 4.87%  TASS enrolment declining at higher rate (9%) than other public high schools (0- 8%) and St Peters (4%)
  • 13. Themes 1. Importance of downtown location adjacent to University 2. Walkability/community schools 3. Preserve/renovate KCVI 4. Will move away from LDSB if KCVI closed 5. Negative to Cookes/QE/Calvin Park sites 6. Calvin Park survey additional themes 1. Bad idea/waste of money/not responsible 2. Makes no sense to have 2 schools so close 3. Congestion in Calvin Park neighbourhood 4. Negative effect of megaschool April 9, 2015 13
  • 14. Themes  LDSB-commissioned French review data correlates well with our results:  Importance of school location downtown  Walkability, value of community schools  Strong desire to preserve KCVI in current location adjacent to University April 9, 2015 14
  • 15. Consider this residential street….  These houses are full of families with children who walk to school  The neighbourhood is revitalized and full of young families  The same goes for all downtown neighbourhoods April 9, 2015 15
  • 16. Consider this residential street…. April 9, 2015 16
  • 17. April 9, 2015 17 It’s time for Plan B