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Kim Solez, MD
Nephrologists & Renal Pathologists May
Be Only People Still Employed in 2045!
Banff Classification of Kidney Transplant Pathology
Histologic criteria for the diagnosis of rejection and
other conditions in the transplanted kidney, began
1991, updated and expanded every two years in
consensus meeting.
 1991 First Conference
 1993 First Kidney International publication
 1995 Integration with CADI
 1997 Integration with CCTT classification
 1999 Second KI paper. Clinical practice guidelines. Implantation biopsies.
 2001 Classification of antibody-mediated rejection: Regulatory agencies
participating
 2003 Genomics focus, ptc cell accumulation scoring
 2005 Gene chip analysis. Elimination of CAN, identification of chronic
antibody-mediated rejection.
 2007 First meeting far from a town called “Banff” – La Coruna, Spain.
 2009 Working groups. Meeting in Banff, Alberta, Canada
 2013 Establishment of Banff Foundation for Allograft Pathology
Significance of ‘Banff papers’
• More than 5,000 citations of the 14 Banff meeting reports
• 915 Banff / Transplantation papers in PubMed
• Banff 2003 meeting report (ABMR criteria) = most cited AJT
paper
• 3 Banff meeting reports are among the top 4 cited AJT articles
Tissue Engineering Pathology Added Soon!
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The Banff Process
Consensus communication in renal transplantation
a
The Banff
lesions
g, i, t, v - score
The Banff
community
Pathologists
Nephrologists
Tx-Surgeons
Lab-Medicine
established by
consensus in 1991
The Banff
classification
Current consensus for
diagnostics
moderated
Banff meetings
thesis-antithesis-synthesis
tentative
thresholds
participate
refinementBanff Working
Groups
Feedback concerning weaknesses and strengths by results
from independent research
New members
Biostaticians
Molecular Biologists
“Omics”-specialists
Off-springs
Liver
Pancreas
Lung, Heart
CTA
Organizational structure of the Banff Foundation For Allograft Pathology
Board of Trustees:
K. Solez (Chair), L. Racusen, D. Glotz, J. Demetris, M. Mengel, M. Mihatsch, D. Seron
2015 Local Conference
chair: Michael Mengel
Organ Steering committee
Chairs:
Composite tissues: Linda Cendales
Heart : Patrick Bruneval
Kidney: Mark Haas
Liver: Jake Demetris
Lung: William Wallace and Carol
Farver
Pancreas: Cinthia Drachenberg
Banff Working Group (BWG) Leads:
Molecular transplantation pathology: Michael Mengel, Banu Sis
Isolated v-lesions: Banu Sis, Ed Kraus
Quality assurance in transplantation diagnostics: Michael Mengel and
Parmjeet Randhawa
C4d-negative ABMR: Mark Haas, Banu Sis, Alexandre Loupy
Fibrosis scoring: Robert Colvin, Brad Farris, Michael Mengel
Digital Pathology in Transplantation: Jake Demetris
2015 Scientific program committee:
Alex Loupy (Chair)
Mark Haas, Banu Sis, Kathryn Tinkham, Candice
Rofousse, Chris Bellamy, Lynn Cornell, Carmen
LeFaucheur
Composite tissues: Linda Cendales
Heart : Patrick Bruneval
Liver: Jake Demetris
Lung: William Wallace and Carol Farver
Pancreas/Islets: Cinthia Drachenberg and John
Papadimitriou
Secretary/Treasurer:
Michael Mengel
funding
collaboration
reports to
reports to
collaboration
collaboration
reports to
collaboration
progress
reports to Budged
proposal and
accountability
for meeting
costs
support
The World is Changing Rapidly!
The World is Changing Rapidly!
The World is Changing Rapidly!
The World is Changing Rapidly!
Perfused 7 days without oxygen or
nutrients! Of course no nuclei seen!
Canadian Data on Public Interest in
Regenerative Medicine
The Technological
Singularity
Podocytes go wandering into the
interstitium! Song et al.
Many problems with stem cell generate
organs not being discussed. Do not exclude
yourself from the action in this area!
Many problems with stem cell generate
organs not being discussed. Need to get
those conversations to happen.
 The recellularized organ clots like crazy, impossible to
regenerate more than 80% of endothelial surface. Artificial
heparized surface not fenestrated. Cell traffic abnormal.
 Hard to get right types of cells to right places.
 Podocytes seems to be terminally differentiated cells,
when attempt to culture them they turn into different type of
cell.
 Kidney progenitor stem cell difficult to identify, kidney work
has lagged behind.
 Easy to make stem cell generated kidneys that lack loop of
Henle. Could produce lethal polyuria. What is “function”?
 Many old fashioned questions of physiology about how the
stem cell generated organ works, not just true for kidney,
true for every organ.
 Transplant
pathologists will also
become tissue
engineering
pathologists,
pathologists who
analyse organs grown
from stem cells. This is
not something beyond
us, we can adapt to a
work life that includes
stem cells.. Someone
needs to cross the
disciplines,
 Many of the questions
that need to be posed
about stem cell
generated organs are old
fashioned questions,
intact nephron
hypothesis, cell
regeneration, stunned
myocardium, contraction
band necrosis etc. Use
your nostalgia! Stimulate
conversations between
stem cell researchers and
transplant physicians.
Beginning at the Very Beginning!
 “We are at the very beginning of time for the human race. It
is not unreasonable that we grapple with problems. But
there are tens of thousands of years in the future. Our
responsibility is to do what we can, learn what we can,
improve the solutions, and pass them on.” - Richard P.
Feynman, (1918-1988) Physicist, Nobel Prize Winner
 "The sense of the future is behind all good policies. Unless
we have it, we can give nothing either wise or decent to
the world." - Snow CP, (1905-1980) Novelist and
Philosopher.
 "To a large extent, the future lies before us like a vast
wilderness of unexplored reality. The God who created and
sustained the evolving universe through eons of progress
and development has not placed our generation at the tag
end of the creative process. God has placed us at a new
beginning. We are here for the future." - Sir John
Templeton (1912-2008 ), Financial Analyst
Beginning at the Very Beginning!
 Like 1851 when the first International Classification of
Diseases was presented in the Grand Exhibition of
Technology at London’s Crystal Palace
 Emphasis was on cause of death
Classification focus is on sustaining life.
 Native and transplanted organ diseases can also occur in
tissue engineered organs.
 The classification focus of the new pathology discipline of
Regenerative Medicine/Tissue Engineering Pathology is
exactly the opposite of traditional classification of disease
which starts with causes of death. In Regenerative
Medicine/Tissue Engineering Pathology the emphasis is on
the degree of normality necessary to sustain life:
 Normal,
 Abnormalities of unknown functional significance,
 Abnormalities which will impair the main functions of the
organ,
 Abnormalities leading to severe organ dysfunction where
function may not be great enough to sustain life.
Song et al. Interstitium, vessels, and glomeruli with missing cells.
Disordered tubule formation with multiple interconnecting
lumina of differing sizes. “Can you really call this a kidney?” (Yes!)
Song et al. In addition to missing cells and disordered structures,
you have cells in the wrong places. Podocytes in the interstitium.
Focus of Tissue Engineering Pathology
 The focus of tissue engineering pathology will shift to
the question: “Is this organ structurally intact enough to
function safely and adequately in the recipient?” Using
the kidney as an example, the specific questions
become: (Images by Korey Fung)
 1. Are there too many missing cells, distorted
structures for the organ to function adequately?
Focus of Tissue Engineering Pathology
 The focus of tissue engineering pathology will shift to
the question: “Is this organ structurally intact enough to
function safely and adequately in the recipient?” Using
the kidney as an example, the specific questions
become: (Images by Korey Fung)
 2. Are there too many cells in the wrong places (e.g.
podocytes in the interstitium)
Focus of Tissue Engineering Pathology
 (Images by Korey Fung)
 3. Are there missing/distorted structural elements that
represent a risk to the patient? (missing loops of Henle
causing lethal polyuria)
Focus of Tissue Engineering Pathology
 Using the kidney as an example, the specific questions
become:
 4. Is there too much endothelial disruption
for the organ to be properly perfused?
 5. What are the risks of neoplastic transformation?
 Classification categories should be not one-off, but
reproducible, generalizable.
 Tissue engineering pathology has been up to now
really dull, since most reports were of scaffolds with no
inflammatory reaction "Move along, nothing to see
here" pathology, but from today becomes really
exciting with novel morphological changes and lives
hanging in the balance!
Acceptance. Share power. The AIs will not all be under
our control. They will compete and cooperate with us
just like other people, except with greater diversity and
asymmetries
We need to set up mechanisms (social, legal, political,
cultural) to ensure that this works out well
Inevitably, conventional humans will be less important
Step 1: Lose your sense of entitlement
Step 2: Include AIs in your circle of empathy
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Kim Solez A renaissance in renal pathology brought about by regenerative medicine

  • 2. Nephrologists & Renal Pathologists May Be Only People Still Employed in 2045!
  • 3. Banff Classification of Kidney Transplant Pathology Histologic criteria for the diagnosis of rejection and other conditions in the transplanted kidney, began 1991, updated and expanded every two years in consensus meeting.
  • 4.  1991 First Conference  1993 First Kidney International publication  1995 Integration with CADI  1997 Integration with CCTT classification  1999 Second KI paper. Clinical practice guidelines. Implantation biopsies.  2001 Classification of antibody-mediated rejection: Regulatory agencies participating  2003 Genomics focus, ptc cell accumulation scoring  2005 Gene chip analysis. Elimination of CAN, identification of chronic antibody-mediated rejection.  2007 First meeting far from a town called “Banff” – La Coruna, Spain.  2009 Working groups. Meeting in Banff, Alberta, Canada  2013 Establishment of Banff Foundation for Allograft Pathology
  • 5. Significance of ‘Banff papers’ • More than 5,000 citations of the 14 Banff meeting reports • 915 Banff / Transplantation papers in PubMed • Banff 2003 meeting report (ABMR criteria) = most cited AJT paper • 3 Banff meeting reports are among the top 4 cited AJT articles
  • 7. The Banff Process Consensus communication in renal transplantation a The Banff lesions g, i, t, v - score The Banff community Pathologists Nephrologists Tx-Surgeons Lab-Medicine established by consensus in 1991 The Banff classification Current consensus for diagnostics moderated Banff meetings thesis-antithesis-synthesis tentative thresholds participate refinementBanff Working Groups Feedback concerning weaknesses and strengths by results from independent research New members Biostaticians Molecular Biologists “Omics”-specialists Off-springs Liver Pancreas Lung, Heart CTA
  • 8. Organizational structure of the Banff Foundation For Allograft Pathology Board of Trustees: K. Solez (Chair), L. Racusen, D. Glotz, J. Demetris, M. Mengel, M. Mihatsch, D. Seron 2015 Local Conference chair: Michael Mengel Organ Steering committee Chairs: Composite tissues: Linda Cendales Heart : Patrick Bruneval Kidney: Mark Haas Liver: Jake Demetris Lung: William Wallace and Carol Farver Pancreas: Cinthia Drachenberg Banff Working Group (BWG) Leads: Molecular transplantation pathology: Michael Mengel, Banu Sis Isolated v-lesions: Banu Sis, Ed Kraus Quality assurance in transplantation diagnostics: Michael Mengel and Parmjeet Randhawa C4d-negative ABMR: Mark Haas, Banu Sis, Alexandre Loupy Fibrosis scoring: Robert Colvin, Brad Farris, Michael Mengel Digital Pathology in Transplantation: Jake Demetris 2015 Scientific program committee: Alex Loupy (Chair) Mark Haas, Banu Sis, Kathryn Tinkham, Candice Rofousse, Chris Bellamy, Lynn Cornell, Carmen LeFaucheur Composite tissues: Linda Cendales Heart : Patrick Bruneval Liver: Jake Demetris Lung: William Wallace and Carol Farver Pancreas/Islets: Cinthia Drachenberg and John Papadimitriou Secretary/Treasurer: Michael Mengel funding collaboration reports to reports to collaboration collaboration reports to collaboration progress reports to Budged proposal and accountability for meeting costs support
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  • 12. The World is Changing Rapidly!
  • 13. The World is Changing Rapidly!
  • 14. The World is Changing Rapidly!
  • 15. The World is Changing Rapidly!
  • 16. Perfused 7 days without oxygen or nutrients! Of course no nuclei seen!
  • 17. Canadian Data on Public Interest in Regenerative Medicine
  • 19. Podocytes go wandering into the interstitium! Song et al.
  • 20. Many problems with stem cell generate organs not being discussed. Do not exclude yourself from the action in this area!
  • 21. Many problems with stem cell generate organs not being discussed. Need to get those conversations to happen.  The recellularized organ clots like crazy, impossible to regenerate more than 80% of endothelial surface. Artificial heparized surface not fenestrated. Cell traffic abnormal.  Hard to get right types of cells to right places.  Podocytes seems to be terminally differentiated cells, when attempt to culture them they turn into different type of cell.  Kidney progenitor stem cell difficult to identify, kidney work has lagged behind.  Easy to make stem cell generated kidneys that lack loop of Henle. Could produce lethal polyuria. What is “function”?  Many old fashioned questions of physiology about how the stem cell generated organ works, not just true for kidney, true for every organ.
  • 22.  Transplant pathologists will also become tissue engineering pathologists, pathologists who analyse organs grown from stem cells. This is not something beyond us, we can adapt to a work life that includes stem cells.. Someone needs to cross the disciplines,
  • 23.  Many of the questions that need to be posed about stem cell generated organs are old fashioned questions, intact nephron hypothesis, cell regeneration, stunned myocardium, contraction band necrosis etc. Use your nostalgia! Stimulate conversations between stem cell researchers and transplant physicians.
  • 24. Beginning at the Very Beginning!  “We are at the very beginning of time for the human race. It is not unreasonable that we grapple with problems. But there are tens of thousands of years in the future. Our responsibility is to do what we can, learn what we can, improve the solutions, and pass them on.” - Richard P. Feynman, (1918-1988) Physicist, Nobel Prize Winner  "The sense of the future is behind all good policies. Unless we have it, we can give nothing either wise or decent to the world." - Snow CP, (1905-1980) Novelist and Philosopher.  "To a large extent, the future lies before us like a vast wilderness of unexplored reality. The God who created and sustained the evolving universe through eons of progress and development has not placed our generation at the tag end of the creative process. God has placed us at a new beginning. We are here for the future." - Sir John Templeton (1912-2008 ), Financial Analyst
  • 25. Beginning at the Very Beginning!  Like 1851 when the first International Classification of Diseases was presented in the Grand Exhibition of Technology at London’s Crystal Palace  Emphasis was on cause of death
  • 26. Classification focus is on sustaining life.  Native and transplanted organ diseases can also occur in tissue engineered organs.  The classification focus of the new pathology discipline of Regenerative Medicine/Tissue Engineering Pathology is exactly the opposite of traditional classification of disease which starts with causes of death. In Regenerative Medicine/Tissue Engineering Pathology the emphasis is on the degree of normality necessary to sustain life:  Normal,  Abnormalities of unknown functional significance,  Abnormalities which will impair the main functions of the organ,  Abnormalities leading to severe organ dysfunction where function may not be great enough to sustain life.
  • 27. Song et al. Interstitium, vessels, and glomeruli with missing cells. Disordered tubule formation with multiple interconnecting lumina of differing sizes. “Can you really call this a kidney?” (Yes!)
  • 28. Song et al. In addition to missing cells and disordered structures, you have cells in the wrong places. Podocytes in the interstitium.
  • 29. Focus of Tissue Engineering Pathology  The focus of tissue engineering pathology will shift to the question: “Is this organ structurally intact enough to function safely and adequately in the recipient?” Using the kidney as an example, the specific questions become: (Images by Korey Fung)  1. Are there too many missing cells, distorted structures for the organ to function adequately?
  • 30. Focus of Tissue Engineering Pathology  The focus of tissue engineering pathology will shift to the question: “Is this organ structurally intact enough to function safely and adequately in the recipient?” Using the kidney as an example, the specific questions become: (Images by Korey Fung)  2. Are there too many cells in the wrong places (e.g. podocytes in the interstitium)
  • 31. Focus of Tissue Engineering Pathology  (Images by Korey Fung)  3. Are there missing/distorted structural elements that represent a risk to the patient? (missing loops of Henle causing lethal polyuria)
  • 32. Focus of Tissue Engineering Pathology  Using the kidney as an example, the specific questions become:  4. Is there too much endothelial disruption for the organ to be properly perfused?  5. What are the risks of neoplastic transformation?  Classification categories should be not one-off, but reproducible, generalizable.  Tissue engineering pathology has been up to now really dull, since most reports were of scaffolds with no inflammatory reaction "Move along, nothing to see here" pathology, but from today becomes really exciting with novel morphological changes and lives hanging in the balance!
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  • 36. Acceptance. Share power. The AIs will not all be under our control. They will compete and cooperate with us just like other people, except with greater diversity and asymmetries We need to set up mechanisms (social, legal, political, cultural) to ensure that this works out well Inevitably, conventional humans will be less important Step 1: Lose your sense of entitlement Step 2: Include AIs in your circle of empathy