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Qubes Hardware Certification
Qubes OS and 3mdeb mini-summit 2019
Piotr Król
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Opinions are my own and represent view of my employer
We do not follow very close Qubes OS development and discussions
We came from embedded and firmware world - our experience with
general-user-facing system is low
Disclaimer
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Qubes OS and 3mdeb minisummit 2019
CC BY | Piotr Król
we're working hard to make a "reasonably secure laptop" a reality
can we ask what does it mean?
what is the progress of that effort?
is there any place for Open Source Firmware consulting company?
there are many companies trying the same
Serious prospective business customers should [contact us] for more
information
We would like to understand what that means
Feasible?
Qubes statement (2 years old)
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Qubes OS and 3mdeb minisummit 2019
CC BY | Piotr Król
Are there any architecture which can be considered not-harmful?
ARM
poisoned supply chain
hard to build general purpose computer for masses
UEFI
mobile solutions
Purism effort around i.MX8
OpenPOWER
very expensive
we are not sure about exact state since we never worked
with this architecture
RISC-V
we think it is very promising
even if CPU is clear, we have to face tons of other blobs in different system
components
firmware is everywhere
x86 considered harmful
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Qubes OS and 3mdeb minisummit 2019
CC BY | Piotr Król
coreboot
do you see any alternatives to open-source boot firmware?
BTW it really like your precise naming
Intel FSP
it looks that there are serious plans to open source FSP
BootROM in x86
(CS)ME/IE
after many PT revelations lots of interesting things happen
any comments on that?
Blobs
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Qubes OS and 3mdeb minisummit 2019
CC BY | Piotr Król
Not only hardware vendors are interested in that
OEM/ODM
Embedded Systems Consulting
Customers often come to us from Qubes OS website
Thank you
Qubes OS (hw cert) -> coreboot -> consulting -> 3mdeb
Qubes certified laptop
Hardware certification
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Qubes OS and 3mdeb minisummit 2019
CC BY | Piotr Król
Are there any real issues with UEFI in light of certification?
IBVs are not very welcome in current ecosystem
Does Qubes OS see some implementation problems with UEFI
implementation
What are the things users complain?
Any hard to debug/workaround/fix bugs affecting OS?
UEFI issues
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Qubes OS and 3mdeb minisummit 2019
CC BY | Piotr Król
Is there a place for Qubes OS and companies like 3mdeb to cooperate?
what areas?
how we can help each other assuming reasonable resources?
Discussion
Qubes OS and 3mdeb
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Qubes OS and 3mdeb minisummit 2019
CC BY | Piotr Król
Q&A
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Qubes hardware certification

  • 1. Qubes Hardware Certification Qubes OS and 3mdeb mini-summit 2019 Piotr Król 1 / 9
  • 2. Opinions are my own and represent view of my employer We do not follow very close Qubes OS development and discussions We came from embedded and firmware world - our experience with general-user-facing system is low Disclaimer 2 / 9 Qubes OS and 3mdeb minisummit 2019 CC BY | Piotr Król
  • 3. we're working hard to make a "reasonably secure laptop" a reality can we ask what does it mean? what is the progress of that effort? is there any place for Open Source Firmware consulting company? there are many companies trying the same Serious prospective business customers should [contact us] for more information We would like to understand what that means Feasible? Qubes statement (2 years old) 3 / 9 Qubes OS and 3mdeb minisummit 2019 CC BY | Piotr Król
  • 4. Are there any architecture which can be considered not-harmful? ARM poisoned supply chain hard to build general purpose computer for masses UEFI mobile solutions Purism effort around i.MX8 OpenPOWER very expensive we are not sure about exact state since we never worked with this architecture RISC-V we think it is very promising even if CPU is clear, we have to face tons of other blobs in different system components firmware is everywhere x86 considered harmful 4 / 9 Qubes OS and 3mdeb minisummit 2019 CC BY | Piotr Król
  • 5. coreboot do you see any alternatives to open-source boot firmware? BTW it really like your precise naming Intel FSP it looks that there are serious plans to open source FSP BootROM in x86 (CS)ME/IE after many PT revelations lots of interesting things happen any comments on that? Blobs 5 / 9 Qubes OS and 3mdeb minisummit 2019 CC BY | Piotr Król
  • 6. Not only hardware vendors are interested in that OEM/ODM Embedded Systems Consulting Customers often come to us from Qubes OS website Thank you Qubes OS (hw cert) -> coreboot -> consulting -> 3mdeb Qubes certified laptop Hardware certification 6 / 9 Qubes OS and 3mdeb minisummit 2019 CC BY | Piotr Król
  • 7. Are there any real issues with UEFI in light of certification? IBVs are not very welcome in current ecosystem Does Qubes OS see some implementation problems with UEFI implementation What are the things users complain? Any hard to debug/workaround/fix bugs affecting OS? UEFI issues 7 / 9 Qubes OS and 3mdeb minisummit 2019 CC BY | Piotr Król
  • 8. Is there a place for Qubes OS and companies like 3mdeb to cooperate? what areas? how we can help each other assuming reasonable resources? Discussion Qubes OS and 3mdeb 8 / 9 Qubes OS and 3mdeb minisummit 2019 CC BY | Piotr Król
  • 9. Q&A 9 / 9 Qubes OS and 3mdeb minisummit 2019 CC BY | Piotr Król