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GreenRoofsinBuildingSupervision-
Viherkatotrakennusvalvonnannäkökulmasta
8/26/2016 1
Whoweare
• The Building Control Dept. of H:ki app. 115 employees of which city
officers …, divides to 3 sections; permitting (KO), controlling (RO) &
support (YO; ict, archives, juridical, cost controlling…).
• Guided by a city member; the Construction Committee
• Runs on its own collecting permitting charges, and to lesser degree
survey charges, etc.
• ”Ei kai rakvv:lla noin lähtökohtaisesti ole nimenomaan
kaupunkikuvallisessa katsannossa mitään erityisempää viherkattoja
vastaan? Pikemminkin kai päinvastoin – haluamme niitä suosia.”
translates roughly to ”Initially the B.C. does not have anything
against green roofs? Rather - we would like to make them possible.”
8/26/2016 2
AndWhatWeDo
• The Building Control Dept. writes permits following the detailed
plan(s), if the owner wants something else not complying with the
detailed plan; exemptions -> consultation with the city planners (City
Planning Committee) and permitting officers, or denial of the idea.
• Or, in the worst case, administrative enforcement measures if the
given b-permit not followed by the owner (Construction Committee to
enforce, even fines may apply!)
• Professional skills evaluation
• Site surveying, and so on.
8/26/2016 3
Initiative
• Green Roof – >key role played by the detailed plan(s)/, otherwise
it’s more or less the owner <-> permitting officer interaction.
• Owners’ rarely, if ever, propose green roofs - > willingness,
awareness?
• Helsinki City Strategy on urban runoff management; In-situ
management of rain water. Desirable situation where far less rw to
municipality’s rw network -> effects rather on geotech & landscape
plans (buffer ponds, tanks, infiltration areas, porous asphalts &
paving, overflow systems…) green roofs less so
• We are at the verge of the climate change;
– Rise of the Baltic Sea? - > sewer systems to work “backwards”
no further strain to pipes from roofs, pls…
– Precipitation rises? -> Capacity of the present RW system?
– Infill development? - >We tend to cover sites /plots all over by
sheet metal, bitumen felt …
8/26/2016 4
• Finland is still one of the driest areas in Europe, good…
• However, no drought ahead…
8/26/2016 5
PROS & CONS
• For some decades we have been taught that unintentional water in
or on the building is no good, any excess water should be led asap
far & further away.
• Traditions of green roofs vanished long ago, no one has references.
Wooden tar impregnated shingle /shake roofs ok, but…
• Building Control Dept.s are probably not the 1st to push forward or
to propose green roofs, if not assisted by detailed plans, or the
owners!
• After all, g.r. is pretty new to us.
• Long term behaviour ref.?
• Maintenance, quite a few other
things to do as well?
•New houses are complex
• E-number
• HEPAC:
• ducts, compressors
• pumps, heat recovery…
• Solar cells, batteries, inverters..?8/26/2016 6
• One further dead load, its magnitude somewhat the present snow
load 2,5* x*y kN/m2 (Snow + GR, Snow or GR, Snow 50% + GR
100%...) dependent, independent, …
• At the moment we’re not going to decrease snow loads, despite the
climate change. Not in the foreseeable future.
• EN 1991-… (Finnish translation & annexes)? Multilayered subtrata
immersed totally/partially/to max. Immersion? -> xxx kN/m2
Designer’s choice as always, but based on what? -> 3rd party
inspection on str.design?
8/26/2016 7
• U-value improves, yes, but if the present ref.value used, not
significantly.
• Albedo, cooler on the terraces, may be indoors as well, energy
savings in cooling?
• The B.C.’s present guidance on moisture controlling and handling
during (and after) construction phases? Contradiction?
• Flora & Fauna, green roofs are generally considered nice &
comfortable, people like it. They are different from the mainstream!!!
8/26/2016 8
• Who weeds birch & willow shoots & their roots, maintenance again.
• Cuts peak flow rate during heavy rainfalls, for how long? total
annual, to what extend (ref. Augustenborg up to 50%)? Can it be used in flow
calculations? Dimensioning of municipalitys’ run off networks? For
how long the buffer lasts? Formulae & expertise behind these?
• And if the most undesirable happens, a leaking roof, what then?
• Yes, we know that (foreign) investors are interested in LEED,
BREEAM etc. , for some reason, when it comes to green roofs, their
ranking system does not give enough points?
• But again, fire properties are a big question mark (A1…D, s1, d1,
…. Fire walls. Classifications, etc?) fire dept.s’ opinion? And not
forgetting interesting letter combinations like ETA, CE, i.e. legislation
on building products
• All that said; the B.C. is a bit conservative as always, but tries to be
somewhat neutral, even positive.
8/26/2016 9
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Vesa Isakov, Building Control Dept.

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Vesa Isakov: Green roofs in building supervision

  • 2. Whoweare • The Building Control Dept. of H:ki app. 115 employees of which city officers …, divides to 3 sections; permitting (KO), controlling (RO) & support (YO; ict, archives, juridical, cost controlling…). • Guided by a city member; the Construction Committee • Runs on its own collecting permitting charges, and to lesser degree survey charges, etc. • ”Ei kai rakvv:lla noin lähtökohtaisesti ole nimenomaan kaupunkikuvallisessa katsannossa mitään erityisempää viherkattoja vastaan? Pikemminkin kai päinvastoin – haluamme niitä suosia.” translates roughly to ”Initially the B.C. does not have anything against green roofs? Rather - we would like to make them possible.” 8/26/2016 2
  • 3. AndWhatWeDo • The Building Control Dept. writes permits following the detailed plan(s), if the owner wants something else not complying with the detailed plan; exemptions -> consultation with the city planners (City Planning Committee) and permitting officers, or denial of the idea. • Or, in the worst case, administrative enforcement measures if the given b-permit not followed by the owner (Construction Committee to enforce, even fines may apply!) • Professional skills evaluation • Site surveying, and so on. 8/26/2016 3
  • 4. Initiative • Green Roof – >key role played by the detailed plan(s)/, otherwise it’s more or less the owner <-> permitting officer interaction. • Owners’ rarely, if ever, propose green roofs - > willingness, awareness? • Helsinki City Strategy on urban runoff management; In-situ management of rain water. Desirable situation where far less rw to municipality’s rw network -> effects rather on geotech & landscape plans (buffer ponds, tanks, infiltration areas, porous asphalts & paving, overflow systems…) green roofs less so • We are at the verge of the climate change; – Rise of the Baltic Sea? - > sewer systems to work “backwards” no further strain to pipes from roofs, pls… – Precipitation rises? -> Capacity of the present RW system? – Infill development? - >We tend to cover sites /plots all over by sheet metal, bitumen felt … 8/26/2016 4
  • 5. • Finland is still one of the driest areas in Europe, good… • However, no drought ahead… 8/26/2016 5 PROS & CONS
  • 6. • For some decades we have been taught that unintentional water in or on the building is no good, any excess water should be led asap far & further away. • Traditions of green roofs vanished long ago, no one has references. Wooden tar impregnated shingle /shake roofs ok, but… • Building Control Dept.s are probably not the 1st to push forward or to propose green roofs, if not assisted by detailed plans, or the owners! • After all, g.r. is pretty new to us. • Long term behaviour ref.? • Maintenance, quite a few other things to do as well? •New houses are complex • E-number • HEPAC: • ducts, compressors • pumps, heat recovery… • Solar cells, batteries, inverters..?8/26/2016 6
  • 7. • One further dead load, its magnitude somewhat the present snow load 2,5* x*y kN/m2 (Snow + GR, Snow or GR, Snow 50% + GR 100%...) dependent, independent, … • At the moment we’re not going to decrease snow loads, despite the climate change. Not in the foreseeable future. • EN 1991-… (Finnish translation & annexes)? Multilayered subtrata immersed totally/partially/to max. Immersion? -> xxx kN/m2 Designer’s choice as always, but based on what? -> 3rd party inspection on str.design? 8/26/2016 7
  • 8. • U-value improves, yes, but if the present ref.value used, not significantly. • Albedo, cooler on the terraces, may be indoors as well, energy savings in cooling? • The B.C.’s present guidance on moisture controlling and handling during (and after) construction phases? Contradiction? • Flora & Fauna, green roofs are generally considered nice & comfortable, people like it. They are different from the mainstream!!! 8/26/2016 8
  • 9. • Who weeds birch & willow shoots & their roots, maintenance again. • Cuts peak flow rate during heavy rainfalls, for how long? total annual, to what extend (ref. Augustenborg up to 50%)? Can it be used in flow calculations? Dimensioning of municipalitys’ run off networks? For how long the buffer lasts? Formulae & expertise behind these? • And if the most undesirable happens, a leaking roof, what then? • Yes, we know that (foreign) investors are interested in LEED, BREEAM etc. , for some reason, when it comes to green roofs, their ranking system does not give enough points? • But again, fire properties are a big question mark (A1…D, s1, d1, …. Fire walls. Classifications, etc?) fire dept.s’ opinion? And not forgetting interesting letter combinations like ETA, CE, i.e. legislation on building products • All that said; the B.C. is a bit conservative as always, but tries to be somewhat neutral, even positive. 8/26/2016 9
  • 11. 8/26/2016 11 Vesa Isakov, Building Control Dept.

Editor's Notes

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