Spiritualizing
our
relationships
How can we spiritualize?
When we relate with others,
what can we change?
1. Our vision of others
2. Our vision of our role in the
relationship
3. Our input in the relationship
How the modes
affect
relationships
Why spiritualizing relationships seems to backfire?
Every relationship:
Some expectation
Some contribution
When we become spiritual, we
decrease our contribution &
increase our expectation
Material vs spiritual consciousness
Material consciousness: What
can this person do for me?
Spiritual consciousness: What
can I do for this person?
Pseudo-spiritualizing others
We think we have a mandate to
remake others according to our
image of what they should be
We are meant to help others
discover what they are meant to
be by Krishna’s plan
Focus on not just action but also disposition
Devotion is not just a matter of
action, but also of disposition
We may force others to do some
actions and end up making their
disposition unfavorable
Three modes – three behavioral types
Goodness – Contemplation before
action (14.11)
Passion – Action before
contemplation (14.12)
Ignorance – Neither action nor
contemplation, just delusion (14.13)
Metaphors for modes
Channels along which our
consciousness flows by
default
Ropes that pull our
consciousness in particular
directions
Modes, mind, emotions
Emotions are non-rational
responses to stimuli
Emotions are shaped by
modes
Modes, mind, emotions
Emotion is meant to be
balanced by reason
But reason is often like a canoe
precariously afloat in the
turbulent ocean of emotion
Modes, mind, emotions
The lower the mode, the greater
the hold of emotion over
reason
Emotion doesn’t just conquer
reason; it conscripts reason
How the modes affect us
Perceive (our vision of other)
Process (our vision of our role in
the relationship)
Pursue (our input in the
relationship)
Our vision
of others
How we perceive
Goodness: See material &
spiritual both (18.20)
Passion: See material alone
(18.21)
Ignorance: See material
fragmentally (18.22)
How we perceive in ignorance
Reduce people to some one
attribute of theirs
Eg Daksha saw Sati not as
daugher, but as wife of Shiva
Eg. Boy in foster home
How we perceive in passion
Reduce people to their
physical or external attributes
Eg Men treat women as sex
machines & women treat men
as ATM machines
How we perceive in goodness
See others, like us as
combinations of strengths and
weaknesses
Seek to understand others just
as we want them to understand
us
How we perceive in transcendence
We all are works in progress,
souls at our own levels in our
spiritual evolution
Krishna is working on all of
us
How we perceive in transcendence
Our relationships are not just
products of karma, but also plans of
Krishna
We are meant to be:
Not sources of material gratification,
but partners in spiritual evolution
How we perceive in transcendence
In dependence on Krishna is
independence
Only independent people can
be interdependent
Unvarying intention, Varying execution
We serve with some
We serve through some
We serve some
We serve in spite of some
Our vision of
our role in the
relationship
Self-conception in modes
Ignorance: Victim mentality
(Under-estimate our capacity)
Passion: Victor mentality
(Over-estimate our capacity)
Goodness: Partner mentality
(Realistically estimate our capacity)
Expectation in modes
Ignorance: Everything will go
wrong
Passion: Everything will go
right
Goodness: Let’s focus on the
right and manage the wrong
Expectation in modes
Maximizer: I want the best
deal
Optimizer: I will look for the
best in the situation
Maximizer mentality makes for misery
Disappointment: No product lives up
to the expectation created by the effort
Nagging fear, “Might have got a better
deal”
Frustration: When some better product
comes up
Maximizer mentality in relationships
• Dream of perfect relationship
• Never settle for what we
have
• If ever there was a ideal
society, we wouldn’t be
allowed into it
Over-expectation
When we have the whole
world depicted in the media
as our reference point, the
real world always seems pale
Coming to goodness
Don’t depress yourself;
depress your expectation –
of others and of yourself
Rising to transcendence
Seek not the best in the
world,
seek to reshape the world as a
launching pad to the best
Our input in the
relationship
Many meanings of love
Emotion: I feel so much love
Attraction: Fall in love
Expectation: You don’t love me
Intention: I am committed
Action: I do my part
Our mind determines our language
Love needs to be not just
offered, but offered in a way
that it is felt as love
Find the fault of faultfinding
Constant criticism changes
“We are in this together”
To
“Are we in this together?”
Eg Team players
disagreeing vs doubting each other
Separate behavior from person
Avoid value-judgments
Focus first on facts, then on
feelings
Eg. Not “you are irresponsible”,
but “When you don’t do …, I feel
exasperated because I can’t …”
Separate behavior from person
Being carried away by
feelings – passion/ignorance
Channeling feelings
constructively - goodness
Pursue: Tolerate Mitigate Emigrate
Some things can’t be changed -
tolerate
Some things can’t not be
changed – mitigate
Some things aren’t worth the
effort to change – emigrate
Material vs spiritual approaches
Material: Change the
externals
Spiritual: Change the
internals
External change - Excess
Decreased commitment to
anything
Lack of fulfillment in anything
Eg. Gender bender
Internal change - Excess
Apathy and passivity to
atrocity
Fatalism
Pursue - Pandavas
Tolerated: Poisoning, Arson
Mitigated: Draupadi’s
disrobing
Emigrated: Krishna’s departure
Pursue – Srila Prabhupada
Tolerated: Meat in host’s fridge
Mitigated: Fought for Juhu land
Emigrated: Focused on US instead
of India to start ISKCON
Look beyond problems to Krishna
Let our self-identity come
from our vertical relationship
We are Krishna’s servants
first, acting in various roles as
a service
Keep the consciousness flowing
When one channel gets
blocked, find a channel that is
unblocked
Change the driving question
from “Why?” to “How?”
Don’t catastrophize, contextualize
Whatever karma may get us
to, Krishna will get us
through
See with the eyes of faith
We see the present and plan
the future
Krishna sees the future and
plans the present

Spiritualizing our relationships

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  • 2.
    How can wespiritualize? When we relate with others, what can we change? 1. Our vision of others 2. Our vision of our role in the relationship 3. Our input in the relationship
  • 3.
  • 4.
    Why spiritualizing relationshipsseems to backfire? Every relationship: Some expectation Some contribution When we become spiritual, we decrease our contribution & increase our expectation
  • 5.
    Material vs spiritualconsciousness Material consciousness: What can this person do for me? Spiritual consciousness: What can I do for this person?
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    Pseudo-spiritualizing others We thinkwe have a mandate to remake others according to our image of what they should be We are meant to help others discover what they are meant to be by Krishna’s plan
  • 7.
    Focus on notjust action but also disposition Devotion is not just a matter of action, but also of disposition We may force others to do some actions and end up making their disposition unfavorable
  • 8.
    Three modes –three behavioral types Goodness – Contemplation before action (14.11) Passion – Action before contemplation (14.12) Ignorance – Neither action nor contemplation, just delusion (14.13)
  • 9.
    Metaphors for modes Channelsalong which our consciousness flows by default Ropes that pull our consciousness in particular directions
  • 10.
    Modes, mind, emotions Emotionsare non-rational responses to stimuli Emotions are shaped by modes
  • 11.
    Modes, mind, emotions Emotionis meant to be balanced by reason But reason is often like a canoe precariously afloat in the turbulent ocean of emotion
  • 12.
    Modes, mind, emotions Thelower the mode, the greater the hold of emotion over reason Emotion doesn’t just conquer reason; it conscripts reason
  • 13.
    How the modesaffect us Perceive (our vision of other) Process (our vision of our role in the relationship) Pursue (our input in the relationship)
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    How we perceive Goodness:See material & spiritual both (18.20) Passion: See material alone (18.21) Ignorance: See material fragmentally (18.22)
  • 16.
    How we perceivein ignorance Reduce people to some one attribute of theirs Eg Daksha saw Sati not as daugher, but as wife of Shiva Eg. Boy in foster home
  • 17.
    How we perceivein passion Reduce people to their physical or external attributes Eg Men treat women as sex machines & women treat men as ATM machines
  • 18.
    How we perceivein goodness See others, like us as combinations of strengths and weaknesses Seek to understand others just as we want them to understand us
  • 19.
    How we perceivein transcendence We all are works in progress, souls at our own levels in our spiritual evolution Krishna is working on all of us
  • 20.
    How we perceivein transcendence Our relationships are not just products of karma, but also plans of Krishna We are meant to be: Not sources of material gratification, but partners in spiritual evolution
  • 21.
    How we perceivein transcendence In dependence on Krishna is independence Only independent people can be interdependent
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    Unvarying intention, Varyingexecution We serve with some We serve through some We serve some We serve in spite of some
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    Our vision of ourrole in the relationship
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    Self-conception in modes Ignorance:Victim mentality (Under-estimate our capacity) Passion: Victor mentality (Over-estimate our capacity) Goodness: Partner mentality (Realistically estimate our capacity)
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    Expectation in modes Ignorance:Everything will go wrong Passion: Everything will go right Goodness: Let’s focus on the right and manage the wrong
  • 26.
    Expectation in modes Maximizer:I want the best deal Optimizer: I will look for the best in the situation
  • 27.
    Maximizer mentality makesfor misery Disappointment: No product lives up to the expectation created by the effort Nagging fear, “Might have got a better deal” Frustration: When some better product comes up
  • 28.
    Maximizer mentality inrelationships • Dream of perfect relationship • Never settle for what we have • If ever there was a ideal society, we wouldn’t be allowed into it
  • 29.
    Over-expectation When we havethe whole world depicted in the media as our reference point, the real world always seems pale
  • 30.
    Coming to goodness Don’tdepress yourself; depress your expectation – of others and of yourself
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    Rising to transcendence Seeknot the best in the world, seek to reshape the world as a launching pad to the best
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    Our input inthe relationship
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    Many meanings oflove Emotion: I feel so much love Attraction: Fall in love Expectation: You don’t love me Intention: I am committed Action: I do my part
  • 34.
    Our mind determinesour language Love needs to be not just offered, but offered in a way that it is felt as love
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    Find the faultof faultfinding Constant criticism changes “We are in this together” To “Are we in this together?” Eg Team players disagreeing vs doubting each other
  • 36.
    Separate behavior fromperson Avoid value-judgments Focus first on facts, then on feelings Eg. Not “you are irresponsible”, but “When you don’t do …, I feel exasperated because I can’t …”
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    Separate behavior fromperson Being carried away by feelings – passion/ignorance Channeling feelings constructively - goodness
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    Pursue: Tolerate MitigateEmigrate Some things can’t be changed - tolerate Some things can’t not be changed – mitigate Some things aren’t worth the effort to change – emigrate
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    Material vs spiritualapproaches Material: Change the externals Spiritual: Change the internals
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    External change -Excess Decreased commitment to anything Lack of fulfillment in anything Eg. Gender bender
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    Internal change -Excess Apathy and passivity to atrocity Fatalism
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    Pursue - Pandavas Tolerated:Poisoning, Arson Mitigated: Draupadi’s disrobing Emigrated: Krishna’s departure
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    Pursue – SrilaPrabhupada Tolerated: Meat in host’s fridge Mitigated: Fought for Juhu land Emigrated: Focused on US instead of India to start ISKCON
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    Look beyond problemsto Krishna Let our self-identity come from our vertical relationship We are Krishna’s servants first, acting in various roles as a service
  • 45.
    Keep the consciousnessflowing When one channel gets blocked, find a channel that is unblocked Change the driving question from “Why?” to “How?”
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    Don’t catastrophize, contextualize Whateverkarma may get us to, Krishna will get us through
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    See with theeyes of faith We see the present and plan the future Krishna sees the future and plans the present