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Answering the challenges of
Ultra Traditionalism
By:
Bro. Ryan R. Mejillano
Internal Vice-President
CFD – Davao Archdiocesan Chapter
Objectives
• To be able to DISTINGUISH the difference between Traditionalism &
Ultra-Traditionalism
• To JUXTAPOSE the arguments presented by different levels of Ultra-
Traditionalism
• To COMPREHEND the current & updated situation of these
movements
Terminologies
• Traditionalism- a movement of Catholics in favor of restoring many or all of
the customs, traditions, liturgical forms, public and private devotions and
presentations of the teaching of the Catholic Church before the Second
Vatican Council (1962–65). They are commonly associated with an attachment
to the Eucharistic liturgy often called the Tridentine, Traditional Latin or
Extraordinary Form of the Mass.
• Schism- the practical denial of ecclesiastical unity. It is the withdrawal of
submission to the Supreme Pontiff or from communion with the members of
the Church subject to him ( Canon 751)
• Excommunication- Canonical penalty whereby a Catholic is excluded from the
Church. It can be incurred automatically for certain offenses or imposed by
competent authority (Catholic Encyclopedia)
Terminologies
• Canon Law –is the system of laws and legal principles made and
enforced by the hierarchical authorities of the Catholic Church to
regulate its external organization and government and to order and
direct the activities of Catholics toward the mission of the Church.
• Magisterium- the Official Teaching office of the Church
Terminologies
• Ecclesia supplet- “The Church supplies”. Theological and canonical
principle which holds that even if there is some common error, such
as in jurisprudence or the performance of a sacrament, as long as the
minister intends to do what the Church intends in that action the
nature of the Church "makes up" for any insufficiency or error on the
priest's part. This can be a helpful pastoral principle to guard against
scrupulosity. This can only be invoked by ordained in good standing
(full communion).
Contents
I. Introduction to Ultra-Traditionalism (Part 1)
II. Common arguments by Ultra-Traditionalism
(Part 2)
What is Traditional Catholicism?
• is a movement of Catholics in favor of restoring many of the customs,
traditions, liturgical forms, public and private devotions and
presentations of the teaching of the Catholic Church before the
Second Vatican Council (1962–65). They are commonly associated
with an attachment to the Eucharistic liturgy often called the
Tridentine/ Missal of Saint John XXIII, Traditional Latin or
Extraordinary Form of the Mass in the Roman Rite.
• The Traditionalist movement has NOT been condemned by the
Church. (Documentation Service, Volume 4, Number 12, Anatomy of
Schism, page 26)
What is Ultra-Traditionalism?
• Ultra-traditionalism emerged as a movement in the 1970s. As
indicated, it opposed the changes in the Church associated with the
Second Vatican Council (1962-1965, referred to as "Vatican II"). The
motive force behind the movement was the disconnect between the
profoundly conservative doctrines taught by the Catholic Church in
the 19th and early 20th centuries - and, more broadly, since the
Counter-Reformation of the 16th and 17th centuries - and the more
pragmatic and progressive interpretation of Catholicism that has
largely prevailed since Vatican II.
(http://religiousstudiesblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/catholic-
ultra-traditionalism.html)
Scriptural proofs
Matthew 16:18-19
John 14:16
John 14:26
Luke 10:16
Acts 16:4
Traditionalists in good standing with the Holy
See (Vatican)
• Since the Second Vatican Council, several traditionalist organizations
have been started with or have subsequently obtained approval from
the Catholic Church. These organizations accept in principle the
documents of the Second Vatican Council, and regard the changes
associated with the Council (such as the revision of the Mass) as
legitimate, but celebrate the older forms with the approval of the
Holy See.
Priestly Fraternity of St Peter (FSSP)
• The Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter (Latin: Fraternitas
Sacerdotalis Sancti Petri; FSSP) is a traditionalist
Catholic society of apostolic life for priests and
seminarians which is in communion with the Holy See.
• The society was founded in 1988 under the leadership
of 12 priests who were formerly members of the
Society of Saint Pius X, another traditionalist
organization, but were unwilling to remain part of it
following the Écône consecrations, which resulted in its
bishops being excommunicated by the Holy See.
• Headquartered in Switzerland, the society maintains
two international seminaries: the International
Seminary of St. Peter in Wigratzbad-Opfenbach,
Bavaria and Our Lady of Guadalupe Seminary in
Denton, Nebraska. The society is officially recognized
by the Holy See and its priests celebrate Mass in
locations in 124 worldwide dioceses.
Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest
(ICRSS)
• The Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest (Latin:
Institutum Christi Regis Summi Sacerdotis, is a Roman
Catholic society of apostolic life of pontifical right in
communion with the Holy See of the Catholic Church. The
institute has the stated goal of honoring God and the
sanctification of priests in the service of the Catholic
Church and souls. An integral part of the institute’s
charism is the use of the traditional Latin liturgy of 1962
for Mass and the other sacraments. It has undertaken the
restoration of a number of historic church buildings.
• The institute's rule of life is based generally on that of the
secular canons. The institute has its own choir dress,
adopted in 2006, which was given to members by the
(Cardinal) Archbishop of Florence. Its stated mission is the
defense and propagation of the reign of Christ in all areas
of human life, both private and social.
Other institutes recognized by the Vatican
• Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer
• Institute of the Good Shepherd (IGS)
• Servants of Jesus and Mary (Servi Jesu et Mariae, SJM)
• Canons Regular of the New Jerusalem (CRNJ)
• Canons Regular of Saint John Cantius (SJC)
• Canons Regular of the Holy Cross
• Fraternity of Saint Vincent Ferrer
• Personal Apostolic Administration of Saint John Mary Vianney (PAASJV)
There are also multiple monastic communities, including
• Monastery of Our Lady of the Annunciation of Clear Creek
• Monastery of St. Benedict in Norcia
• Monks of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary of Mount Carmel
• Monastery of Our Lady of the Cenacle
• Le Barroux Abbey
In addition, many traditionalist Catholics in good standing
with Rome are served by local diocesan or religious priests
who are willing and able to offer the traditional rites.
e.g. Latin Mass Society of San Ferdinand
Latin Mass Society of Davao
Latin Mass Society of England & Wales
Ecclesia Dei Society of Saint Joseph (UVP)
Society of Saint Gregory the Great
Ateneo Latin Mass Society
Cebu Summorum Pontificum Society
Traditionalists viewed by the Holy See
(Vatican) as of irregular status
Pierre Martin Ngô Đình Thục (6 October 1897
– 13 December 1984)
• was the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Huế, Vietnam,
and a member of the Ngô family who ruled South
Vietnam in the years leading up to the Vietnam War.
He was the founder of Dalat University.
• While Thục was in Rome attending the second session
of the Second Vatican Council, the 1963 South
Vietnamese coup overthrew and assassinated his
younger brother Ngo Dinh Diem, who was president of
South Vietnam. Thục was unable to return to Vietnam
and lived the rest of his life exiled in Italy, France, and
the United States. During his exile, he was involved
with Traditionalist Catholic movements and
consecrated a number of bishops without the Vatican's
approval for the Palmarian and Sedevacantist
movements. As a result, he was excommunicated by
the Holy See and later reconciled with the Vatican a
number of times.
Sedevacantist- Congregation of
Mary Immaculate Queen (CMRI).
• (Latin: Congregatio Mariae Reginae
Immaculatae) is a Sedevacantist Traditionalist
Catholic religious congregation that rejects the
authority of the recent Popes, including
Benedict XVI and Francis, and is dedicated to
promoting the message of Our Lady of Fátima
and devotion to the Virgin Mary according to
the teachings of St. Louis-Marie Grignon de
Montfort (1673-1716), whom they regard as
their spiritual founder. Over the years, the
Congregation has also been known as the
Fatima Crusaders and Oblates of Mary
Immaculate Queen of the Universe
The Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen serves 29
churches and chapels in the United States, Canada, Australia, and
New Zealand. They also operate the Mater Dei Seminary in Omaha,
Nebraska, while the Sisters' motherhouse is located in Spokane,
Washington (Mount Saint Michaels Mission). They have expanded
into Canada, Australia, and New Zealand; Central and South America,
with centers in Argentina, Brazil, and Mexico; and Europe, with Mass
centers in England, France, Germany, Switzerland, Czech Republic,
Russia, and Ukraine.
Sedevacantist- Society of Saint Pius V (SSPV)
The Society of Saint Pius V (SSPV; Latin: Societas
Sacerdotalis Sancti Pii Quinti), is a Traditionalist
Catholic society of priests, formed in 1983 and
based in Oyster Bay Cove, New York. The priests of
SSPV broke away from the Society of St. Pius X over
liturgical issues, and hold that many in the
hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church no longer
adhere to the Catholic faith but instead profess a
new, modernist, Conciliar religion. SSPV priests
regard the questions of the legitimacy of the
present hierarchy and the possibility that the Holy
See is unoccupied (sedevacantism) to be
unresolved. The SSPV is led by its founder, Bishop
Clarence Kelly.
Conclavists
Conclavism - is the belief and practice of some who, claiming that all
recent occupants of the papal see are not true popes, elect someone else
and propose him as the true pope to whom the allegiance of Catholics is
due. They are often classified as sedevacantists because they reject the
official papal succession for the same reasons. Conclavist groups include
the following, to wit;
• "True Catholic Church", founded by Lucian Pulvermacher
("Pope Pius XIII")
• Palmarian Catholic Church
• Pope Michael
"True Catholic Church", ("Pope Pius XIII")
• Lucian Pulvermacher was a traditionalist schismatic Roman
Catholic priest. He was the head of the "True Catholic
Church", a small conclavist group that elected him Pope
Pius XIII in Montana in October 1998. Born on April 20,
1918, near Marshfield, Wisconsin, in the town of Rock in
Wood County, He was one of 9 children of a farm family.
His 3 brothers became priests.
• In 1942, at the age of 24, he joined the Capuchin Order, He
was subsequently ordained to the priesthood on June 5,
1946. At first he was posted to a parish in Milwaukee, but
in 1948 he was sent to the Ryukyu Islands of Japan. He
spent the greater part of his career as a Capuchin (from
1948 to 1970) as a missionary priest in the Ryukyu Islands,
including Okinawa. In 1970, he was transferred from Japan
to Queensland in Australia, where he continued his
missionary work until his disillusionment with the changes
that followed the Second Vatican Council of 1962–1965.
• He left what he called "the Novus Ordo, bogus Council
Vatican II Church" and began to collaborate with the
SSPX.
• In October 1998 a group of sedevacantist lay Catholics
met in Kalispell, intending to constitute a conclave for
a papal election. They elected him, and he adopted
the title of "Pope Pius XIII". From Montana he issued
statements, appointed advisors as cardinals, and
performed ordination rites. After 2005, he made no
more public statements as his health declined.
• Pulvermacher died on November 30, 2009
Palmarian Catholic Church
• The church regards Pope Paul VI, whom they revere as a
martyr, and his predecessors as true popes, but hold, on
the grounds of claimed apparitions, that the Pope of
Rome is excommunicated and that the position of the
Holy See has, since 1978, been transferred to their See of
El Palmar de Troya.
• The Palmarian Catholic Church has had four pontiffs since
its establishment. Clemente Domínguez y Gómez (Pope
Gregory XVII) declared himself pope in 1978 until his
death in 2005; Manuel Corral (Pope Peter II) succeeded
Domínguez in 2005 and led the church until his death in
2011. Corral was succeeded by Ginés Jesús Hernández
(Pope Gregory XVIII) in 2011. Hernández resigned in 2016
to marry and was succeeded by Joseph Odermatt (Pope
Peter III) in 2016.
Palmarian: origin
• In March 1968, four Spanish schoolgirls (only known as Ana, Josefa,
Rafaela and Ana María) stated they saw an apparition of the Virgin
Mary by a little tree on a piece of farmland called La Alcaparrosa near
Palmar de Troya. Many people came to witness the supposed
apparitions, and a number of miracles similar to those alleged to have
happened at Fátima, Garabandal and Međugorje were said to have
occurred. The seers had many supporters, including priests. Several
other people reported visions at the site, including Clemente
Domínguez y Gómez, an office clerk from Seville. He gradually became
the "principal seer".
• The original seers' visions were dismissed by the local bishop.
Domínguez claimed that the Virgin Mary had given him instructions to
rid the Catholic Church of "heresy and progressivism", and of
Communism.
• In 1975, Domínguez formed a new religious order, the Order of
Carmelites of the Holy Face, which claimed to be "faithful to the holy
Pope Paul VI". It claimed that Paul VI was detained in the Vatican by
evil conspiring cardinals. The order was initially run by laymen, but
supported sacramentally by priests from Spain, Portugal, and the
United States.
Palmarian: Consecration of Bishops
• To be guaranteed access to the sacraments, Domínguez's group needed its
own bishops. Domínguez wrote a letter to Marcel Lefebvre and asked him to
consecrate him, but Lefebvre declined the offer and told them to contact a
traditionally-minded Vietnamese bishop instead. In 1976, Swiss priest
Maurice Revaz (who had taught Canon Law at the Society of Saint Pius X
(SSPX) seminary in Ecône) persuaded the elderly Vietnamese Archbishop
Ngo Dinh Thuc of the authenticity of the apparitions. Thuc was chosen
because he was a papal legate. Accepting the mystical message of the seer-
mystics, the Archbishop believed that he was called by the Virgin Mary to
raise two of the order's members (Domínguez and a lawyer named Manuel
Alonso Corral) and three of the priests associated with the group to the rank
of bishop. Thuc also ordained some laymen to the priesthood. Clemente
Dominguez had a "vision" while Archbishop Thuc was present. During the
vision Clemente proceeded to take the child Jesus, who had apparently
appeared in the vision and placed the Child Jesus in the Archbishop's arms.
This seems to have convinced Thuc of the authenticity of the apparitions
and confirmed his decision to ordain and consecrate in El Palmar de Troya in
1976.
• Thuc acted without obtaining the mandatory authorisation from the Holy
See, and he and the five men he consecrated as bishops were subsequently
excommunicated by Paul VI. Thuc subsequently cut his ties with the group
and was reconciled with the Church authorities.
Pope Michael
• David Allen Bawden (born September
22, 1959 in Oklahoma City, who takes
the name Pope Michael, is an American
citizen and a conclavist claimant to the
papacy. He stated in 2009 that he had
approximately 30 "solid" followers.
• Bawden was elected by a group of six
laypeople, which included himself and
his parents, who had come to believe
that the Catholic Church had seceded
from the Catholic faith since Vatican II,
and that there had been no legitimate
popes elected since the death of Pope
Pius XII in 1958.
Pope Michael
• In 1975, Bawden and his family began to
follow the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX).
Bawden attended the SSPX seminary in
Écône, Switzerland, and Saint Joseph's
Priory, Armada, Michigan, but was
dismissed from the seminary in 1978.
• Bawden believes that all the popes since the
death of Pope Pius XII on October 9, 1958,
are modernists, heretics, and apostates, and
that, therefore, their elections are invalid.
He considers them to have incurred latae
sententiae, or automatic excommunication,
for violating Pope Pius X's laws.
Ordination to the priesthood & consecration as a
bishop
• At some point during 2011, Bawden claims he was ordained a priest, and
then consecrated a bishop, by an episcopus vagans, and thus claims to be
able to validly celebrate Catholic sacraments, offer the Mass, ordain other
men to the priesthood, and consecrate them as bishops. The bishop who
ordained and consecrated him was Bishop Robert Biarnesen who is from
the Duarte-Costa and Old Catholic Lineages.
Play videos
• "True Catholic Church", founded by Lucian Pulvermacher ("Pope Pius
XIII")
• Palmarian Catholic Church
• Pope Michael
Lesson
• Obedience & union with the Pope are
NON-NEGOTIABLE hallmarks of being a
Catholic
• We should not be swayed with the
externals. The most concrete external
sign of authentic Catholicism is Sub
umbra Petri (under the shadow of
Peter)- Obedience – CFD/LMS SD
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Answering challenges of Ultra Traditionalism

  • 1. Answering the challenges of Ultra Traditionalism By: Bro. Ryan R. Mejillano Internal Vice-President CFD – Davao Archdiocesan Chapter
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  • 4. Objectives • To be able to DISTINGUISH the difference between Traditionalism & Ultra-Traditionalism • To JUXTAPOSE the arguments presented by different levels of Ultra- Traditionalism • To COMPREHEND the current & updated situation of these movements
  • 5. Terminologies • Traditionalism- a movement of Catholics in favor of restoring many or all of the customs, traditions, liturgical forms, public and private devotions and presentations of the teaching of the Catholic Church before the Second Vatican Council (1962–65). They are commonly associated with an attachment to the Eucharistic liturgy often called the Tridentine, Traditional Latin or Extraordinary Form of the Mass. • Schism- the practical denial of ecclesiastical unity. It is the withdrawal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or from communion with the members of the Church subject to him ( Canon 751) • Excommunication- Canonical penalty whereby a Catholic is excluded from the Church. It can be incurred automatically for certain offenses or imposed by competent authority (Catholic Encyclopedia)
  • 6. Terminologies • Canon Law –is the system of laws and legal principles made and enforced by the hierarchical authorities of the Catholic Church to regulate its external organization and government and to order and direct the activities of Catholics toward the mission of the Church. • Magisterium- the Official Teaching office of the Church
  • 7. Terminologies • Ecclesia supplet- “The Church supplies”. Theological and canonical principle which holds that even if there is some common error, such as in jurisprudence or the performance of a sacrament, as long as the minister intends to do what the Church intends in that action the nature of the Church "makes up" for any insufficiency or error on the priest's part. This can be a helpful pastoral principle to guard against scrupulosity. This can only be invoked by ordained in good standing (full communion).
  • 8. Contents I. Introduction to Ultra-Traditionalism (Part 1) II. Common arguments by Ultra-Traditionalism (Part 2)
  • 9. What is Traditional Catholicism? • is a movement of Catholics in favor of restoring many of the customs, traditions, liturgical forms, public and private devotions and presentations of the teaching of the Catholic Church before the Second Vatican Council (1962–65). They are commonly associated with an attachment to the Eucharistic liturgy often called the Tridentine/ Missal of Saint John XXIII, Traditional Latin or Extraordinary Form of the Mass in the Roman Rite. • The Traditionalist movement has NOT been condemned by the Church. (Documentation Service, Volume 4, Number 12, Anatomy of Schism, page 26)
  • 10. What is Ultra-Traditionalism? • Ultra-traditionalism emerged as a movement in the 1970s. As indicated, it opposed the changes in the Church associated with the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965, referred to as "Vatican II"). The motive force behind the movement was the disconnect between the profoundly conservative doctrines taught by the Catholic Church in the 19th and early 20th centuries - and, more broadly, since the Counter-Reformation of the 16th and 17th centuries - and the more pragmatic and progressive interpretation of Catholicism that has largely prevailed since Vatican II. (http://religiousstudiesblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/catholic- ultra-traditionalism.html)
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  • 13. Scriptural proofs Matthew 16:18-19 John 14:16 John 14:26 Luke 10:16 Acts 16:4
  • 14. Traditionalists in good standing with the Holy See (Vatican) • Since the Second Vatican Council, several traditionalist organizations have been started with or have subsequently obtained approval from the Catholic Church. These organizations accept in principle the documents of the Second Vatican Council, and regard the changes associated with the Council (such as the revision of the Mass) as legitimate, but celebrate the older forms with the approval of the Holy See.
  • 15. Priestly Fraternity of St Peter (FSSP) • The Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter (Latin: Fraternitas Sacerdotalis Sancti Petri; FSSP) is a traditionalist Catholic society of apostolic life for priests and seminarians which is in communion with the Holy See. • The society was founded in 1988 under the leadership of 12 priests who were formerly members of the Society of Saint Pius X, another traditionalist organization, but were unwilling to remain part of it following the Écône consecrations, which resulted in its bishops being excommunicated by the Holy See. • Headquartered in Switzerland, the society maintains two international seminaries: the International Seminary of St. Peter in Wigratzbad-Opfenbach, Bavaria and Our Lady of Guadalupe Seminary in Denton, Nebraska. The society is officially recognized by the Holy See and its priests celebrate Mass in locations in 124 worldwide dioceses.
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  • 17. Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest (ICRSS) • The Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest (Latin: Institutum Christi Regis Summi Sacerdotis, is a Roman Catholic society of apostolic life of pontifical right in communion with the Holy See of the Catholic Church. The institute has the stated goal of honoring God and the sanctification of priests in the service of the Catholic Church and souls. An integral part of the institute’s charism is the use of the traditional Latin liturgy of 1962 for Mass and the other sacraments. It has undertaken the restoration of a number of historic church buildings. • The institute's rule of life is based generally on that of the secular canons. The institute has its own choir dress, adopted in 2006, which was given to members by the (Cardinal) Archbishop of Florence. Its stated mission is the defense and propagation of the reign of Christ in all areas of human life, both private and social.
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  • 19. Other institutes recognized by the Vatican • Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer • Institute of the Good Shepherd (IGS) • Servants of Jesus and Mary (Servi Jesu et Mariae, SJM) • Canons Regular of the New Jerusalem (CRNJ) • Canons Regular of Saint John Cantius (SJC) • Canons Regular of the Holy Cross • Fraternity of Saint Vincent Ferrer • Personal Apostolic Administration of Saint John Mary Vianney (PAASJV) There are also multiple monastic communities, including • Monastery of Our Lady of the Annunciation of Clear Creek • Monastery of St. Benedict in Norcia • Monks of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary of Mount Carmel • Monastery of Our Lady of the Cenacle • Le Barroux Abbey
  • 20. In addition, many traditionalist Catholics in good standing with Rome are served by local diocesan or religious priests who are willing and able to offer the traditional rites. e.g. Latin Mass Society of San Ferdinand Latin Mass Society of Davao Latin Mass Society of England & Wales Ecclesia Dei Society of Saint Joseph (UVP) Society of Saint Gregory the Great Ateneo Latin Mass Society Cebu Summorum Pontificum Society
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  • 22. Traditionalists viewed by the Holy See (Vatican) as of irregular status
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  • 26. Pierre Martin Ngô Đình Thục (6 October 1897 – 13 December 1984) • was the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Huế, Vietnam, and a member of the Ngô family who ruled South Vietnam in the years leading up to the Vietnam War. He was the founder of Dalat University. • While Thục was in Rome attending the second session of the Second Vatican Council, the 1963 South Vietnamese coup overthrew and assassinated his younger brother Ngo Dinh Diem, who was president of South Vietnam. Thục was unable to return to Vietnam and lived the rest of his life exiled in Italy, France, and the United States. During his exile, he was involved with Traditionalist Catholic movements and consecrated a number of bishops without the Vatican's approval for the Palmarian and Sedevacantist movements. As a result, he was excommunicated by the Holy See and later reconciled with the Vatican a number of times.
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  • 29. Sedevacantist- Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen (CMRI). • (Latin: Congregatio Mariae Reginae Immaculatae) is a Sedevacantist Traditionalist Catholic religious congregation that rejects the authority of the recent Popes, including Benedict XVI and Francis, and is dedicated to promoting the message of Our Lady of Fátima and devotion to the Virgin Mary according to the teachings of St. Louis-Marie Grignon de Montfort (1673-1716), whom they regard as their spiritual founder. Over the years, the Congregation has also been known as the Fatima Crusaders and Oblates of Mary Immaculate Queen of the Universe
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  • 31. The Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen serves 29 churches and chapels in the United States, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. They also operate the Mater Dei Seminary in Omaha, Nebraska, while the Sisters' motherhouse is located in Spokane, Washington (Mount Saint Michaels Mission). They have expanded into Canada, Australia, and New Zealand; Central and South America, with centers in Argentina, Brazil, and Mexico; and Europe, with Mass centers in England, France, Germany, Switzerland, Czech Republic, Russia, and Ukraine.
  • 32. Sedevacantist- Society of Saint Pius V (SSPV) The Society of Saint Pius V (SSPV; Latin: Societas Sacerdotalis Sancti Pii Quinti), is a Traditionalist Catholic society of priests, formed in 1983 and based in Oyster Bay Cove, New York. The priests of SSPV broke away from the Society of St. Pius X over liturgical issues, and hold that many in the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church no longer adhere to the Catholic faith but instead profess a new, modernist, Conciliar religion. SSPV priests regard the questions of the legitimacy of the present hierarchy and the possibility that the Holy See is unoccupied (sedevacantism) to be unresolved. The SSPV is led by its founder, Bishop Clarence Kelly.
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  • 34. Conclavists Conclavism - is the belief and practice of some who, claiming that all recent occupants of the papal see are not true popes, elect someone else and propose him as the true pope to whom the allegiance of Catholics is due. They are often classified as sedevacantists because they reject the official papal succession for the same reasons. Conclavist groups include the following, to wit; • "True Catholic Church", founded by Lucian Pulvermacher ("Pope Pius XIII") • Palmarian Catholic Church • Pope Michael
  • 35. "True Catholic Church", ("Pope Pius XIII") • Lucian Pulvermacher was a traditionalist schismatic Roman Catholic priest. He was the head of the "True Catholic Church", a small conclavist group that elected him Pope Pius XIII in Montana in October 1998. Born on April 20, 1918, near Marshfield, Wisconsin, in the town of Rock in Wood County, He was one of 9 children of a farm family. His 3 brothers became priests. • In 1942, at the age of 24, he joined the Capuchin Order, He was subsequently ordained to the priesthood on June 5, 1946. At first he was posted to a parish in Milwaukee, but in 1948 he was sent to the Ryukyu Islands of Japan. He spent the greater part of his career as a Capuchin (from 1948 to 1970) as a missionary priest in the Ryukyu Islands, including Okinawa. In 1970, he was transferred from Japan to Queensland in Australia, where he continued his missionary work until his disillusionment with the changes that followed the Second Vatican Council of 1962–1965.
  • 36. • He left what he called "the Novus Ordo, bogus Council Vatican II Church" and began to collaborate with the SSPX. • In October 1998 a group of sedevacantist lay Catholics met in Kalispell, intending to constitute a conclave for a papal election. They elected him, and he adopted the title of "Pope Pius XIII". From Montana he issued statements, appointed advisors as cardinals, and performed ordination rites. After 2005, he made no more public statements as his health declined. • Pulvermacher died on November 30, 2009
  • 37. Palmarian Catholic Church • The church regards Pope Paul VI, whom they revere as a martyr, and his predecessors as true popes, but hold, on the grounds of claimed apparitions, that the Pope of Rome is excommunicated and that the position of the Holy See has, since 1978, been transferred to their See of El Palmar de Troya. • The Palmarian Catholic Church has had four pontiffs since its establishment. Clemente Domínguez y Gómez (Pope Gregory XVII) declared himself pope in 1978 until his death in 2005; Manuel Corral (Pope Peter II) succeeded Domínguez in 2005 and led the church until his death in 2011. Corral was succeeded by Ginés Jesús Hernández (Pope Gregory XVIII) in 2011. Hernández resigned in 2016 to marry and was succeeded by Joseph Odermatt (Pope Peter III) in 2016.
  • 38. Palmarian: origin • In March 1968, four Spanish schoolgirls (only known as Ana, Josefa, Rafaela and Ana María) stated they saw an apparition of the Virgin Mary by a little tree on a piece of farmland called La Alcaparrosa near Palmar de Troya. Many people came to witness the supposed apparitions, and a number of miracles similar to those alleged to have happened at Fátima, Garabandal and Međugorje were said to have occurred. The seers had many supporters, including priests. Several other people reported visions at the site, including Clemente Domínguez y Gómez, an office clerk from Seville. He gradually became the "principal seer". • The original seers' visions were dismissed by the local bishop. Domínguez claimed that the Virgin Mary had given him instructions to rid the Catholic Church of "heresy and progressivism", and of Communism. • In 1975, Domínguez formed a new religious order, the Order of Carmelites of the Holy Face, which claimed to be "faithful to the holy Pope Paul VI". It claimed that Paul VI was detained in the Vatican by evil conspiring cardinals. The order was initially run by laymen, but supported sacramentally by priests from Spain, Portugal, and the United States.
  • 39. Palmarian: Consecration of Bishops • To be guaranteed access to the sacraments, Domínguez's group needed its own bishops. Domínguez wrote a letter to Marcel Lefebvre and asked him to consecrate him, but Lefebvre declined the offer and told them to contact a traditionally-minded Vietnamese bishop instead. In 1976, Swiss priest Maurice Revaz (who had taught Canon Law at the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) seminary in Ecône) persuaded the elderly Vietnamese Archbishop Ngo Dinh Thuc of the authenticity of the apparitions. Thuc was chosen because he was a papal legate. Accepting the mystical message of the seer- mystics, the Archbishop believed that he was called by the Virgin Mary to raise two of the order's members (Domínguez and a lawyer named Manuel Alonso Corral) and three of the priests associated with the group to the rank of bishop. Thuc also ordained some laymen to the priesthood. Clemente Dominguez had a "vision" while Archbishop Thuc was present. During the vision Clemente proceeded to take the child Jesus, who had apparently appeared in the vision and placed the Child Jesus in the Archbishop's arms. This seems to have convinced Thuc of the authenticity of the apparitions and confirmed his decision to ordain and consecrate in El Palmar de Troya in 1976. • Thuc acted without obtaining the mandatory authorisation from the Holy See, and he and the five men he consecrated as bishops were subsequently excommunicated by Paul VI. Thuc subsequently cut his ties with the group and was reconciled with the Church authorities.
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  • 42. Pope Michael • David Allen Bawden (born September 22, 1959 in Oklahoma City, who takes the name Pope Michael, is an American citizen and a conclavist claimant to the papacy. He stated in 2009 that he had approximately 30 "solid" followers. • Bawden was elected by a group of six laypeople, which included himself and his parents, who had come to believe that the Catholic Church had seceded from the Catholic faith since Vatican II, and that there had been no legitimate popes elected since the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958.
  • 43. Pope Michael • In 1975, Bawden and his family began to follow the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX). Bawden attended the SSPX seminary in Écône, Switzerland, and Saint Joseph's Priory, Armada, Michigan, but was dismissed from the seminary in 1978. • Bawden believes that all the popes since the death of Pope Pius XII on October 9, 1958, are modernists, heretics, and apostates, and that, therefore, their elections are invalid. He considers them to have incurred latae sententiae, or automatic excommunication, for violating Pope Pius X's laws.
  • 44. Ordination to the priesthood & consecration as a bishop • At some point during 2011, Bawden claims he was ordained a priest, and then consecrated a bishop, by an episcopus vagans, and thus claims to be able to validly celebrate Catholic sacraments, offer the Mass, ordain other men to the priesthood, and consecrate them as bishops. The bishop who ordained and consecrated him was Bishop Robert Biarnesen who is from the Duarte-Costa and Old Catholic Lineages.
  • 45. Play videos • "True Catholic Church", founded by Lucian Pulvermacher ("Pope Pius XIII") • Palmarian Catholic Church • Pope Michael
  • 46. Lesson • Obedience & union with the Pope are NON-NEGOTIABLE hallmarks of being a Catholic • We should not be swayed with the externals. The most concrete external sign of authentic Catholicism is Sub umbra Petri (under the shadow of Peter)- Obedience – CFD/LMS SD